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Cardiovorax posted:You have that backwards there. RE4 is cheesy B-horror all the time while Dead Space only even has a plot less than half the time. The rest is generic cover shooter. You must be thinking of Dead Space 3? There's no cover mechanic in Dead Space. Its thin plot isn't really relevant. Most Dead Space fans will tell you the series went steadily downhill after the first. Dead Space 3 sucks. RE4 being b-grade horror makes sense though, I just don't think it really attempts to be scary most of the time. There's some pretty tense moments though, like with the regenerators.
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Yardbomb posted:To be honest Amnesia just didn't do it for me at all. I loved the Penumbra games so when I saw those dudes were making Amnesia, I was pretty hyped for it. I don't regret giving them my money and all cause hey, I like their games and now their new one looks really good, but something about Ye Olde Spooky Castle™ just didn't work for me and I'm always a little disappointed that their game I liked the least blew up harder then the others. Exactly this. This was my reaction to it as well. Maybe it's time to replay Penumbra again. Those games ruled.
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cat doter posted:RE4 being b-grade horror makes sense though, I just don't think it really attempts to be scary most of the time. There's some pretty tense moments though, like with the regenerators. I've always thought that RE4 is great game, but a terrible horror game. It's fun all the way through, but at no point is it scary. You're just too powerful. Nothing feels terrifying because you always know you can beat it, it's just a matter of working out the trick. But obviously, horror's a matter of taste. I've always preferred them to build a sense of hopelessness. It's the same reason that slashers do nothing for me. I acknowledge that's just my idiosyncrasies though.
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Amnesia was creepy, and there were a couple of good jump scares early on, but each time I've played I got frustrated around the time I finished making the Aqua Regia. Yeah, that early. It was always a matter of checking my inventory and status, and discovering that despite never doing anything really out of the ordinary, my sanity was only hanging by a thread. Always figured that I'd done something wrong, that there was probably a very limited amount of brain-health tonic, and that at that rate I'd just get too annoyed trying to keep myself sane than play the game.
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Sep 7, 2014 12:48
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That's weird, because I never even knew there was a sanity "meter" and an accompanying fail state in Amnesia until I read about it on the internet long afterwards. It seemed entirely organic to me, and I never worried about maintaining it at all.
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Sep 7, 2014 12:51
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I'm the one who hoards his health potions and doesn't spend skill points for unreasonable periods of time, then gets frustrated when his worries turn into self-fulfilling prophecies.
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Sep 7, 2014 13:26
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cat doter posted:You must be thinking of Dead Space 3? There's no cover mechanic in Dead Space. Its thin plot isn't really relevant. Most Dead Space fans will tell you the series went steadily downhill after the first. Really? I thought 2 was the best in the series. I've played through that at least a good 5-6 times. The third had good DLC, but it really was too little too late.
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Sep 7, 2014 13:37
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I think 2 is a better game as well, though 1 definitely has a cooler setting.
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I really enjoyed all 3 games but I traded Dead Space 3 in before I got a chance to try out the co-op. The DLC ending was a little eh, I liked how the base game ended much better.
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King Vidiot posted:I think [GAME CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED] is [HYPERBOLIC INSULT] for [BROAD DEROGATORY NAMECALLING]. King Vidiot posted:Yeah, it's too bad there's all this creepy pedophile gore porn in this otherwise good game, it's bringing down this game made by a creepy pedophile who enjoys creating torture and graphic death scenarios for young girls.
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Sep 7, 2014 15:07
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I finally got around to plaything through Alan Wake and by far scariest thing about it was the product placement. So many Energizer batteries and Verizon phones...
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Sep 7, 2014 15:11
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You laughing at that says more about you than it does about me.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Really? I thought 2 was the best in the series. I've played through that at least a good 5-6 times. The third had good DLC, but it really was too little too late. I like Dead Space 1 and 2 for different reasons, I often liken the difference between the 2 as Alien to Aliens. Dead Space is just creepier and a more pure horror game, whereas Dead Space 2 seems more concerned with action and setpieces at times. That's not to say that Dead Space doesn't like its setpieces, I just think it gets the balance right.
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King Vidiot posted:You laughing at that says more about you than it does about me.
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Saya no Utah is pedo weebshit
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DiscoMouse posted:Saya no Utah is pedo weebshit
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Chill man, your point was made.
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It is in fact those things, I am sorry that your mind is clouded and you're apologising for pedo porn Edit: I didn't buy the red text for the record, that's dumb DiscoMouse fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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Sep 7, 2014 15:33
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Are you guys fuckin' kidding, is this about to be the argument that you piss all over each other for? Let it go.
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Sep 7, 2014 15:34
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drat... he got owned...
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cat doter posted:I like Dead Space 1 and 2 for different reasons, I often liken the difference between the 2 as Alien to Aliens. Dead Space is just creepier and a more pure horror game, whereas Dead Space 2 seems more concerned with action and setpieces at times. That's not to say that Dead Space doesn't like its setpieces, I just think it gets the balance right. Dead Space 1 is a cool game about being startled by new enemies. Dead Space 2 is where you are used to them mostly, but they're still difficult to deal with and now people talk to you more. It's a lot more actiony, but in a good way. Dead Space 3 mostly owns in co-op until you get the Contact Beam, because you know stuff's coming up, you're equipped to handle them, and you still have to be careful because if you die it's your own fault for being an idiot. There were a few encounters in multiplayer pre-Contact Beam where me and my roommate at the time were dying and it was like "Okay, how do we deal with this without getting owned." Post-Contact Beam, you make a profit on ammo and oneshot everything.
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The stuff that DS3 does it with its co-op sounds pretty unique in general. Kind of a shame it was wasted on a not so great game.
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It's crazy, there's this other game on psn where you play as this (LITERAL NECKBEARD) obvious self insert older dude who drags this preteen girl around with him and you watch her get hurt and bloody and violently kill people. The whole plot is about how much they 'need' each other and trying to be deep but you can just tell the writer was fantasizing hardcore about some real life girl the whole time. It's some sick poo poo.
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Wowporn posted:The whole plot is about how much they 'need' each other and trying to be deep but you can just tell the writer was fantasizing hardcore about some real life girl the whole time. Probably Ellen Page  But at any point in the Last of Us, does Ellie talk about needing butt cream or mention how good it'll feel to rub butt cream all over her "pooper"? Please, I need to know before I decide if I want to buy a PS3.
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Sep 7, 2014 17:10
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Well she does share an explicit, on-screen kiss with another underage girl, so
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Doctor Goat posted:Dead Space 1 is a cool game about being startled by new enemies. Dead Space 2 is where you are used to them mostly, but they're still difficult to deal with and now people talk to you more. It's a lot more actiony, but in a good way. Dead Space 3 mostly owns in co-op until you get the Contact Beam, because you know stuff's coming up, you're equipped to handle them, and you still have to be careful because if you die it's your own fault for being an idiot. I think Dead Space's true strength was startling you with a new enemy that was difficult to beat at first, giving you a couple chances to get juuuust good enough at killing one of them, then throwing you into a situation where there's suddenly 4 of them and you're freaking out. It was great stuff. I think, atmospherically, there's something valuable to the silent protagonist in a horror game. Storytelling wise, it presents a lot of problems, but if you look at something like the Resident Evil remake, there's a clear division between what are gameplay sections and what are story sections (cutscene versus gameplay), and during the gameplay sections, the player's character NEVER speaks, and this is essentially what Dead Space gets wrong by making Isaac a distinct character. There are long stretches where you never hear someone speak unless it's the crazy babblings of a person that gouged out their own eyes, or some ambient, difficult to place speech. This is fantastic for building a sense of dread, but if you suddenly have a character that exclaims "WHAT THE gently caress" or "I wonder what that noise was" it completely undercut's the player's own reaction to whatever element frightened them. Having a second character or a co-op buddy just compounds the problem. Still, don't get me wrong, I have a great fondness for Dead Space 2, for an action-horror game with greater emphasis on action, it's probably one of the best games you'll play. I just want my action-horror games to err on the side of horror most of the time.
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poptart_fairy posted:Well she does share an explicit, on-screen kiss with another underage girl, so Which shockingly, ~gamers~ were actually more mad than weird about it.
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Why the gently caress Konami doesn't put Silent Hill 2,3 and 4 on PSN? I know they hosed up the HD ports bad, but if they would be really cool they'd put the original versions on the ps2 classics section. It wouldn't be hard and would be fair for the fans. I mean even the HD ports aren't on PSN or did I miss something?
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cat doter posted:I think Dead Space's true strength was startling you with a new enemy that was difficult to beat at first, giving you a couple chances to get juuuust good enough at killing one of them, then throwing you into a situation where there's suddenly 4 of them and you're freaking out. It was great stuff.
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ManOfTheYear posted:Why the gently caress Konami doesn't put Silent Hill 2,3 and 4 on PSN? I know they hosed up the HD ports bad, but if they would be really cool they'd put the original versions on the ps2 classics section. It wouldn't be hard and would be fair for the fans. I mean even the HD ports aren't on PSN or did I miss something? It is. Silent Hill HD Collection or something. Since they have that there, I doubt the original 2/3/4 will be up there any time soon. I've been looking to consolidate my PS1/2 games into PSN copies since they're cheaper and don't take up shelf space and that was one of the first games I looked at.
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Accordion Man posted:I do like in 2 that Isaac has a sailor mouth because he's just so sick of this poo poo. Yeah, it's not all bad, I liked that too.
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King Vidiot posted:Probably Ellen Page *I* would never buy a playstation platform, Sony is pandering to like the most bottom of the barrel creeps these days. Look at the sony lineup    and compare it with, say, the last batch of microsoft titles    it's pretty obvious that Sony is banking on creeps/redditors, furries, and otaku nerds to keep them profitable, meanwhile microsoft is making quality games for mature adults and falling behind because they're not willing to sink that low.
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why are you console trolling in the horror games thread
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1stGear posted:why are you console trolling in the horror games thread Someone got upset because someone called a crummy game bad or something
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This is truly a horrific Games Megathread
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Yardbomb posted:Someone got upset because someone called a crummy game bad or something Yeah, looks like someones got a lil' sandy butthole, might wanna rub some cream on that pooper.
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cat doter posted:You must be thinking of Dead Space 3? There's no cover mechanic in Dead Space. Its thin plot isn't really relevant. Most Dead Space fans will tell you the series went steadily downhill after the first. Yeah, Resident Evil has always been a terrible horror series and just a straight-up great and fun action series with horror scenery around it. That's why I think I'll enjoy Evil Within a lot. Like I said I liked Dead Space a lot but I thought it lacked the variety of enemies and the fun insanity of Resident Evil 4. Also, yes I can definitely see the influence of Half-Life in The Suffering.
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The reason why I always thought of Resident Evil as a "horror series" is that the original game was the first I'd ever played where you had monsters in a spooky mansion where it took itself remotely seriously. Before that I'd played games like Haunting on the Genesis and Monster Party on the NES but they were humor games first and "horror" second. So to me it seemed like a groundbreaking thing, since I'd never played any PC games at that point, didn't know about Alone in the Dark, didn't have a Japanese SNES so I couldn't have played Clock Tower. But looking back, even the first game was just an action game with some light resource management.
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I'd say REmake is pretty squarely in horror rear end horror territory, it still manages to be cheesy in places but atmospherically and gameplay wise, it's a big, BIG step up from the original. The outdoor areas and the cabin in particular are just creepy as all poo poo. Seriously I'm SO GAY for REmake, it's so loving good.
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To be be honest while RE4 is more actiony I still thought it was tense and scary at times, i.e. I always dreaded the chainsaw enemies and the blind claw dudes. Not to mention the Regnerators. It just usually wasn't a lingering horror.
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