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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Yes, the scare was so bad that the Daily Mail was the voice of reason. This is both the scariest and most unnerving thing I have read.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:It sure is creepy. And the worst thing is that SA mods also believe in stigmatising the unfortunate: http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php A remnant from the days when shitposting was poorly understood and thought to be much more contagious than it actually was.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 15:19 |
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Just watched the excellent doc Dreams of a Life about the sad case of Joyce Vincent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Vincent quote:Joyce Carol Vincent (15 October 1965 – c. December 2003) was an English woman who is notable because her corpse lay undiscovered in her London bedsit for two years. The weirdest thing is that she wasn't some complete loner, she was a smart, attractive and popular woman with four sisters and a pretty large circle of friends. Over the years she'd hung out with Isaac Hayes, Gil Scott Heron and Stevie Wonder. But when she disappeared people either didn't notice, or didn't care enough to find out what had happened to her, so for two years her corpse lay rotting in the middle of London. The TV was on the whole time. Her rent was partly paid by government benefits so it took two years for arrears to build and her utilities were direct debits, so the power and heating stayed on. Creepy. edit: This is also a very good article about her: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2011/oct/09/joyce-vincent-death-mystery-documentary Necrothatcher has a new favorite as of 23:35 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Anchoritequote:In the Germanic lands from at least the tenth century it was customary for the bishop to say the office of the dead as the anchorite entered her cell, to signify the anchorite's death to the world and rebirth to a spiritual life of solitary communion with God and the angels. Sometimes, if the anchorite was walled up inside the cell, the bishop would put his seal upon the wall to stamp it with his authority. quote:Hearing Mass and receiving Holy Communion was possible through a small, shuttered window in the common wall facing the sanctuary, called a "hagioscope" or "squint". There was also a small window facing the outside world, through which the inhabitant would receive food and other necessities and, in turn, could provide spiritual advice and counsel to visitors, as the anchorites gained a reputation for wisdom. Sokushinbutsu quote:This process of self-mummification was mainly practised in Yamagata in Northern Japan between the 11th and 19th century, by members of the Japanese Vajrayana school of Buddhism called Shingon ("True Word"). The practitioners of sokushinbutsu did not view this practice as an act of suicide, but rather as a form of further enlightenment. Those who succeeded were revered, while those who failed were nevertheless respected for the effort. The wiki article itself is a bit dry. The monk would spend several years in specialized diet and exercise to remove as much body fat as possible and then make their body poisonous to maggots through a special tea. They would retire to a tight stone tomb which would help them maintain the lotus position in death. Here's a nice Atlas Obscura link with a few more details and some pics. http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sokushinbutsu-dainichi-temple
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DryGoods posted:The wiki article itself is a bit dry. Is it, DryGoods. Is the article about self-mummification, a bit dryyyyy. Supreme Allah has a new favorite as of 02:27 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Just watched the excellent doc Dreams of a Life about the sad case of Joyce Vincent: I remember this being posted in the old thread a long ways back, and it's haunting. I'm glad you brought this back up Mr. F- Supreme Allah posted:Is it, DryGoods. Is the article about self-mummification, a bit dryyyyy. x 2 COMBO UNLOCKED
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The Pied Piper is loosely based on a real story. What really happened is unknown. All anybody knows is that sometime around 1300 references to a piper and a disappearance of the town's children begin showing up in Hamelin's historical record.quote:The earliest mention of the story seems to have been on a stained glass window placed in the Church of Hamelin c. 1300. The window was described in several accounts between the 14th and 17th centuries.[5] It was destroyed in 1660. Based on the surviving descriptions, a modern reconstruction of the window has been created by historian Hans Dobbertin. It features the colorful figure of the Pied Piper and several figures of children dressed in white. The piper is almost certainly allegorical and indeed there's strong evidence the whole event was simply young people emigrating east to what is now Poland. But either way it left an awfully creepy imprint the town's history.
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I think we discussed the Galveston hurricane of 1900 in the last thread. Not only was it the deadliest natural disaster in US history, but according to wiki, "More people were killed in this single storm than the total of those killed in all the tropical cyclones that have struck the United States since." But the real horror is always in the details.quote:Rescuers arrived to find the city completely destroyed. ... Most had drowned or been crushed as the waves pounded the debris that had been their homes hours earlier. Many survived the storm itself but died after several days being trapped under the wreckage of the city, with rescuers unable to reach them. The rescuers could hear the screams of the survivors as they walked on the debris trying to rescue those they could. A further 30,000 were left homeless. To give you an idea of the kind of task they were looking at, quote:Caption: St. Lucas Terrace - 80 bodies were found under the ruins after this photograph was made Anyway, that's the summary...I mainly brought this up to post this telegraph, which was sent to the governor of Texas days after the hurricane struck. I'm not sure exactly why, but it's one of the more chilling things I've read:
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Zebb_Quinn One of the more maddening disappearances to read about because you know someone knows more than they're letting on. GAPO has a new favorite as of 20:07 on Sep 6, 2014 |
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That's one of the most thorough typos I've ever seen.
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AKA Pseudonym posted:The Pied Piper is loosely based on a real story. What really happened is unknown. All anybody knows is that sometime around 1300 references to a piper and a disappearance of the town's children begin showing up in Hamelin's historical record. The fact that they supposedly disappeared sometime in the 13th century always made me think of the Children's Crusade. Maybe there's some connection?
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Wildeyes posted:I think we discussed the Galveston hurricane of 1900 in the last thread. Not only was it the deadliest natural disaster in US history, but according to wiki, "More people were killed in this single storm than the total of those killed in all the tropical cyclones that have struck the United States since." But the real horror is always in the details. There's a really good book about this called "Isaac's Storm" by Eric Larson if you want even more horrifying details.
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Tibor posted:That's one of the most thorough typos I've ever seen. Which one?
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Loomer posted:Which one? The one in my quote which they've edited now. At first I thought it was an actual word I'd never come across before and was interested to find out what it was.
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# ? Sep 7, 2014 08:28 |
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Guess who this is: Why it's Aaron Kosminski, otherwise known as Jack The loving Ripper. The Daily Mail posted:It is the greatest murder mystery of all time, a puzzle that has perplexed criminologists for more than a century and spawned books, films and myriad theories ranging from the plausible to the utterly bizarre. Case closed.
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# ? Sep 7, 2014 13:32 |
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The Daily Mail accusing an immigrant of a crime? Why I never! Anyway, this poo poo was solved ages ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhMZnPVh1Rs Dissapointed Owl has a new favorite as of 14:03 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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Between this and the Voynich Manuscript supposedly getting translated, it really is an amazing time to be alive. Never thought I'd see the day.
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Stare-Out posted:Guess who this is: Interesting, but I'll wait until sources with actual integrity report on it. If it's just the Daily Mail reporting on something, take it with a grain of salt. But if it's true, then yay?
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bean_shadow posted:Interesting, but I'll wait until sources with actual integrity report on it. If it's just the Daily Mail reporting on something, take it with a grain of salt. But if it's true, then yay? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod
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Well, DNA has a "half-life" of over five hundred years, so finding evidence from a case a bit over a century old isn't out of the question. Still seems like total guesswork, though. How do you know that DNA is from the killer? How do you even know that shawl is from the victim?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Well, DNA has a "half-life" of over five hundred years, so finding evidence from a case a bit over a century old isn't out of the question. Still seems like total guesswork, though. How do you know that DNA is from the killer? How do you even know that shawl is from the victim? Did you read the part of the article where they specifically addressed those issues? I mean if you want to get pedantic about it, all they claim to have proven is that a shawl with the blood of someone who shares mitochondrial DNA with the victim also has mitochondrial DNA compatible with one of the suspect in the original investigation on it. Don't know if it'd hold up in a court of law (Ahahaha no it wouldn't) but circumstantially, it seems pretty strong.
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FrozenVent posted:Did you read the part of the article where they specifically addressed those issues? That was basically what I meant. It's so circumstantial. Nothing but clickbait, especially considering that who did this is utterly irrelevant by now. That's to say nothing of The Daily Mail being The Daily Mail. What I find more interesting is the people who claim to be uncaught serial killers. Earlier this year, a man confessed to being the Zodiac Killer. Of course, this was not the first time.. This article goes into greater detail, as an interview with a guy who runs a site acting as a repository for information on Zodiac. I just really find it strange and intriguing how people are so eager for fame that they will grasp desperately at infamy if it's their best bet. I know I wouldn't want to be labeled as a serial killer, or even the friend of one. I wonder though, on my death bed, with little to show for my time spent alive, would I do the same? It seems like a pretty vile thing to lie about, but at the same time, so incredibly human.
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FrozenVent posted:Did you read the part of the article where they specifically addressed those issues? Chain of possession is murky at best. As much as I'd like this to be true, everyone here is skeptical with good reason. Lumberjack Bonanza posted:
Keep in mind, when reading zodiackiller.com, that it's webmaster has often been accused of advancing ridiculous pet theories in an effort to drive traffic to his for-profit site. GAPO has a new favorite as of 16:04 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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The advances in extracting usable information from such elderly evidence is pretty neat tho.
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pienipple posted:The advances in extracting usable information from such elderly evidence is pretty neat tho. For sure.
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GAPO posted:Chain of possession is murky at best. As much as I'd like this to be true, everyone here is skeptical with good reason. Well I wouldn't say he's the most reputable guy, being someone who runs a website about an unsolved serial killer and all. It's more about that aspect of people using such horrible crimes to be known. Approaching it in that way, Tom Voigt is a true authority.
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# ? Sep 7, 2014 16:10 |
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Now that this sort of forensic science has developed so far, we really need to determine who killed the dinosaurs. Does anyone have a shawl owned by a deinonychus, or perhaps the petticoat of a T-Rex?
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Messages informing or warning of disasters or deaths are always creepy and sad. (no image for this one) quote:TO: BARIL/DPKO/UNATIONS Related to warnings of disaster John Gunther Dean was the US ambassador to Cambodia up until the Khmer Rouge took over. His wiki article doesn't go into much detail into that but he gave a great talk at the Carter Center describing his efforts to mediate and avoid genocide, it's really worth a read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gunther_Dean http://web.archive.org/web/20090601133900/http://jimmycarterlibrary.org/library/oralhistory/clohproject/dean.phtml Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 22:19 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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In a less scary and more unnerving vein, here is a cool thing I learned from the OSHA.jpg thread! It is about man engines. It is not an engine made of mans, but an engine for moving mans up and down a quote:A man engine is a mechanism of reciprocating ladders and stationary platforms installed in mines to assist the miners' journeys to and from the working levels. It was invented in Germany in the 19th century and was a prominent feature of tin and copper mines in Cornwall until the beginning of the twentieth century. Not much unsafer than climbing a series of ladders with a bunch of anxious miners directly above or below you (since a miner didn't start earning pay until they were actually underground and mining!) and moved slowly enough to not be any more dangerous than World 1-2 of Super Mario Bros. A man engine reduced the miners' journey time (in either direction) from about an hour to twenty-four minutes and the general productivity increased by one fifth. Overall, a win-win for both the owners (more profit!) and for the miners (less exhausting commute to work)! And nothing ever went wrong and everyone was safe forever! quote:In the afternoon of 20 October 1919 an accident occurred on the man engine at the Levant Mine, St Just, Cornwall. More than 100 miners were on the engine being drawn to the surface when a metal bracket at the top of the rod broke. The heavy timbers crashed down the shaft, carrying the side platforms with them, and thirty-one men lost their lives. The man engine was not replaced and the lowest levels of the mine were abandoned. Or maybe sometimes it was a haunted mine generator.
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Stare-Out posted:Guess who this is: quote:"When my involvement in the 126-year-old case began," he writes. "I was just another armchair detective, interested enough to conduct my own extensive research after watching the Johnny Depp film From Hell in 2001. It piqued my curiosity about the 1888 killings when five – possibly more – prostitutes were butchered in London's East End." Alan More's head may well explode...
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Dissapointed Owl posted:The Daily Mail accusing an immigrant of a crime? Why I never! He was a mean guy...ungood, if you will.
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Stare-Out posted:Guess who this is: I certainly can't think of any other reason a man's DNA would be on a prostitute's clothing. Case closed indeed.
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SlothBear posted:I certainly can't think of any other reason a man's DNA would be on a prostitute's clothing. Case closed indeed. From what I understood though it's not just a case of 'dudes DNA on prostitutes clothing'. The guy was already on the list of suspects and I'm reasonably sure that there was a degree of certainty from those investigating the case at the time that this feller was guilty, they just had limited/circumstantial/whatever evidence to convict him. I know it's not exactly 'iron clad', but it's a remarkable coincidence that a scarf believed to be from the crime scene of one of the murder victims turns up with DNA on it of one of the biggest suspects.
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And I'm sure racism had nothing to do with a Polish Jew being a suspect. Looking at his Wikipedia page, the case against Kosminski is pretty thin, with most reports not being very clear they're even referring to him.
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Oh okay, some people think he's guilty and his DNA is on a prostitute's clothing. Case super-loving closed. e: Here is a completely unrelated unnerving wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution
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Basically unless someone invents a machine that can look into the past the Jack the Ripper killings will never actually be solved. We're too far gone from the time period and forensics/police work back then was so incredibly lovely that you'll never be able to conclusively prove anything.
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muscles like this? posted:And I'm sure racism had nothing to do with a Polish Jew being a suspect. Looking at his Wikipedia page, the case against Kosminski is pretty thin, with most reports not being very clear they're even referring to him. Racism or not, thin case or not, it doesn't change the fact that this is remarkable coincidence, which is what I said in the first place. Unless those racist coppers knew that in the future we'd be able to take DNA sampling and match it back to the long dead Polish Jew and sully his name and so they planted it.
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Davfff posted:Racism or not, thin case or not, it doesn't change the fact that this is remarkable coincidence, which is what I said in the first place. You're either trolling or you know nothing about forensic DNA analysis or police procedure back then. hint: It means jack and squat.
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SlothBear posted:You're either trolling or you know nothing about forensic DNA analysis or police procedure back then. The second one, as amazing as this may seem most of the general public don't know a lot about forensic DNA analysis or 1800s police procedure. Please enlighten me.
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Davfff posted:The second one, as amazing as this may seem most of the general public don't know a lot about forensic DNA analysis or 1800s police procedure. The reasons why the report is sketchy are numerous. Most people wouldn't really expect to find usable evidence after all this time, even with mitochondrial DNA evidence. It's not impossible, but it's definitely odd. The findings were not published in a peer reviewed journal, they were published in one of England's most infamous rags. The suspect himself, Kosminski, had very little evidence tying him to the crime. There's also the fact that some of the most likely suspects for the Ripper were Jews with mental issues. I think most people would qualify serial killers as "crazy", sure, but too often people see a paranoid schizophrenic and immediately assume they are violent. Basically, he was a guy who was highly stigmatized at the time and place the murders took place, he seems to have liked hookers, and his semen ended up on a hooker's clothes all this time later. The test is suspect, and even if true, still quite circumstantial.
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