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He wrote the Malus Darkblade series with Mike Lee, really the first depiction of awful evil characters I enjoyed prior to reading the Night Lords trilogy.
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jadebullet posted:I just thought that the single sentence that shows that it is an alternative timeline where the USSR got to the moon first was pretty interesting. The USSR did get to the moon first, just with unmanned probes instead of a human being. They were also the first to bring any samples back from the moon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing#Unmanned_landings
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Nick Kyme's £45 Salamdanders novel http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/rebirth.html is down to the last 100 copies. GW must be pissing their pants with glee that even Kyme's salamanders can pretty much sell out if they sell the book as a £45 bombshell.
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Sep 6, 2014 21:29
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Mr.48 posted:They were also the first to bring any samples back from the moon. This is incorrect as shown by your own link. Although they would have gotten the first samples back by like a few days if their first sample return mission hadn't crashed.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:06
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maev posted:Nick Kyme's £45 Salamdanders novel http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/rebirth.html is down to the last 100 copies. GW must be pissing their pants with glee that even Kyme's salamanders can pretty much sell out if they sell the book as a £45 bombshell. I saw that on BL's website yesterday and I couldn't believe it. I can semi understand ADB or Abnett selling £45 based on name alone, but Kyme? You would have to be brain damaged to think that was a good choice.
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Kyme already had a pricey limited-edition that sold well, so it's not without precedent. Granted, that one wasn't ~forty-five pounds~, but it was only a novella. There are enough troglodytes who reflexively buy any and all 40k media that they can do this with pretty much anything, regardless of quality.
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JerryLee posted:This is incorrect as shown by your own link. Although they would have gotten the first samples back by like a few days if their first sample return mission hadn't crashed. Whoops, youre right, thats what I get for posting on two days of no sleep! They did make it to the moon first with the Luna 2 though 
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Sep 7, 2014 12:37
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The question is...which one of you is buying this stuff?
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Uroboros posted:The question is...which one of you is buying this stuff? I want admissions and I want them now
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Sep 7, 2014 21:50
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UberJumper posted:I have read 2/3rds of the Talon of Horus, and its good. But... This is definitely the case. His whole Dark Eldar Girlfriend thing is frankly stupid, IMO, and the book would be better without it.
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Sep 7, 2014 21:52
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VanSandman posted:This is definitely the case. His whole Dark Eldar Girlfriend thing is frankly stupid, IMO, and the book would be better without it. how much of the book is taken up by this
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Sep 7, 2014 22:41
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Waroduce posted:how much of the book is taken up by this Too much. It's honestly a weak as gently caress ADB book. Still better than an average Black Library book, but that's not saying much.
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Sep 7, 2014 22:46
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Mr.48 posted:The USSR did get to the moon first, just with unmanned probes instead of a human being. They were also the first to bring any samples back from the moon. Should have specified. First manned moon expedition. The nice part was that he didn't just come out and say "look, this is different and why the Soviet Bloc still exists," instead he just off-handidly mentions the first man on the moon and it is a Russian sounding name and it is a few years after our moon landing.
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Sep 7, 2014 23:23
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So I haven't been paying attention to Warhammer fiction/the Black Library in a while, is that new HH novel to deal with the Emperor himself, The Master of Mankind, out yet? And if so, is it any good? I seem to remember it was ADB who was supposed to write it.
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VanSandman posted:This is definitely the case. His whole Dark Eldar Girlfriend thing is frankly stupid, IMO, and the book would be better without it. I'm glad I wasn't the only one to raise this, coupled with the whole 'a bit too human' characterization Khayon himself begins to present a problem which niggles throughout the book when I'd much rather be reading about actual Chaos Marine stuff or Black Legion / Eye of Terror. I've seen reviews from other sites which laud Talon of Horus in the most hyperbolic terms, and seen some posts which say that the Dark Eldar girlfriend is their favorite character so there's plenty of absurd hype out there. Its a decent book overall but not one to poo poo your pants over, far from it.
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I think the main thing is that he's not pathetic like Talos.
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Azubah posted:I think the main thing is that he's not pathetic like Talos. Talos was my least favorite character in the NL trilogy so there you go. Though ADB loves his melancholic pouting protagonists.
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maev posted:I want admissions and I want them now My thoughts are who is more likely to buy this crap than us nerds talking on about endlessly on here... I smell heresy.
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Azubah posted:I think the main thing is that he's not pathetic like Talos. Talos is that interesting kind of pathetic in that while he has a personal code of dignity he follows from an outsider's perspective he is laughably delusional while remaining insanely dangerous.
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VanSandman posted:Talos is that interesting kind of pathetic in that while he has a personal code of dignity he follows from an outsider's perspective he is laughably delusional while remaining insanely dangerous. Talos is like a heavily armed moody teenager, except instead of writing lovely poetry and shooting up a school he whines and shoots up spaceships. So kind of like a miniature version of most Primarchs  God I loving hated him.
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I hated all the Night Lords characters in there. Man, I was rooting so bad for those loyalist Space Marines from that super uptight chapter that tried to stop them from slaughtering all the civilians on that one backwater planet where it turned out that it had originally been Tsagualsa.
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So just read a copy of "The Damnation of Pythos" I got from a friend. Wow, as others have said, it is super-forgettable. Basically adds nothing to the overall storyline and is just not very good. Give it a miss unless you're a completionist/hardcore Iron Warrior fanboy. Edit: I did in fact mean Iron Hands. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Deptfordx posted:So just read a copy of "The Damnation of Pythos" I got from a friend. Do you mean Iron Hands? Also, Blood of Asaheim is a great book, I loved it.
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Mr.48 posted:Talos is like a heavily armed moody teenager, except instead of writing lovely poetry and shooting up a school he whines and shoots up spaceships. So kind of like a miniature version of most Primarchs This is every space marine. They're genetically engineered monsters that weight 900 pounds naked, but have the mind of a sophomore. Give that sort of raw killing potential to a mentally underdeveloped super human and you will have problems.
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So I was bought an audiobook from the black library. I bought Betrayer and was generally pretty happy with how well done it was. Now I crave more of the same quality. Most of the samples I've listened to on the black library website left me feeling pretty cold. Has anyone else given it a listen and know of others on the same level?
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Cooked Auto posted:And he's got some book titled Fiefdom related to the Kingdom comic from 2000 AD. Also written together with Nik Vincent apparently. Fiefdom was not good. Has anybody read the last Macharius Crusade book? I liked the first two, especially the second, but this one has the most anti-climactic ending ever.
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Sextro posted:So I was bought an audiobook from the black library. I bought Betrayer and was generally pretty happy with how well done it was. Now I crave more of the same quality. Most of the samples I've listened to on the black library website left me feeling pretty cold. Has anyone else given it a listen and know of others on the same level? the sigilite or whatever about malcador was really good. I made it through the first two Garro audiobooks, they were....ok. I was on a really long car ride and there wasnt much else available.
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Sextro posted:So I was bought an audiobook from the black library. I bought Betrayer and was generally pretty happy with how well done it was. Now I crave more of the same quality. Most of the samples I've listened to on the black library website left me feeling pretty cold. Has anyone else given it a listen and know of others on the same level? Lessee, Know No Fear is good. I don't know if there's an audiobook for it yet though.
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This isn't what I wanted.
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VanSandman posted:Lessee, Know No Fear is good. I don't know if there's an audiobook for it yet though. Oh yeah. I've read most of the books you folks seem to suggest around here and have been filling in older stuff I hadn't seen before. Betrayer I actually read but after getting a copy of it figured I'd give it a listen since my commute sucks. After it was over Know No Fear is actually the first thing I looked for an audiobook of, I really wanted to find one too.
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All the recent unabridged audiobooks seem to have been done by the same company. Betrayer is one of the better ones. I had mentioned it before but the Abnett audiobooks are kinda tedious at times because of the repetition in the writing. Even the reader starts to sound bored. He reads all the time indexes from Know No Fear- that gets old pretty damned quick. Do you like hearing descriptions of Kurze that call him various combinations of tall, shadowy, and pale? Unremembered Empire is your jam! I'm half tempted to buy Mark of Calth simply because there are three different readers- might mix things up a bit. Of the audio dramas, The Sigillite is good. I also liked Censure. I really liked the Ciaphas Cain one but it just made me wish it was longer.
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Temple of the Serpent is hilarious. Thanquol was sent to Lustria to kill a skink priest but he gets trapped in the temple and has to team up with a human to escape. The human then demands some weapons that Thanquol grudgingly gives over else he won't guide Thanquol out of the temple. *Thanquol hears gunfire*  Why did I give that stupid man-thing a gun?*human shot skink priest to save his girl*  Wait did that just happen!? I knew I gave him the gun for a reason, I Grey Seer Thanquol, is the smartest Grey Seer of all!In the next book, he thoroughly convinced himself that it he planned it all out. amuayse fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Are there any other books that expand more on the whole "Astartes as stunted manchildren" theme? I sort of liked Mercutian better than the rest of First Claw, but that could be because he mostly keeps to himself. Cyrion might actually have progressed into being a college-aged jerk, though, in that he at least tries to keep a veneer of sense over his impulses and prejudices while being arguably worse than the others.
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The Horus Heresy books that focus on the corruption of Chapters usually focus on how their childlike flaws get exploited.
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Doesn't Hyperion specifically mention how Space Marines are essentially stunted in development, which gives rise to his thought that Space Marines aren't humans made into weapons, but instead weapons with a human soul? I thought that was a pretty neat way of putting it. Honestly, I think ADB is pretty aware of this and it shows in how he writes his Space Marines. Talos is insane, but that is pretty clear given how Octavia reacts to his ramblings. His human slaves have a bit of a Stockholm-Syndrome thing going on because he isn't as evil and cruel to them as the other Night Lords are to the rest of the human crew, but they ultimately don't really seem to buy into his bullshit.
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Sephyr posted:Are there any other books that expand more on the whole "Astartes as stunted manchildren" theme? That's a consistent theme of ADB's. And it's true - they are taking a bunch of 4 and 5 year olds and instead of raising them to be regular people they get put through this hosed up super warrior indoctrination for 50 years. It's like those cases of feral children, but instead of no guidance they got this messed up ultra violent guidance instead. They should be all hosed up. Socialization matters. Trying to remember who, but another author did a free short story (in his own, non40k universe) riffing on the same theme about post singularity transhumans. With the point that all the traits we see as ideal like super regeneration and turning off pain and being able to survive on a diet of arsenic and uranium dust will lead to people so bizarre from our worldview that they will come off as mentally different and psychopathic. Anyways, I've seen a lot of praise for the art inside the talon of Horus books, even for the elritch symbols on the numbered and signed page. Could someone scan and post them? Thanks
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Fried Chicken posted:
If you can remember the details I'd like to read that.
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Fried Chicken posted:That's a consistent theme of ADB's. And it's true - they are taking a bunch of 4 and 5 year olds and instead of raising them to be regular people they get put through this hosed up super warrior indoctrination for 50 years. It's like those cases of feral children, but instead of no guidance they got this messed up ultra violent guidance instead. They should be all hosed up. Socialization matters.
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