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Dexo posted:To be fair gently caress Guy Gardner. At the same time if Guy Gardner is telling you something is an abysmal idea and not being a smug prick about it, you're probably making the worst possible decision you could possibly make in and out of all time and space, from Earth 0 to Earth 51, and everywhere in between.
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The thing I hate about injustice is Manchester Black already tried breaking Superman by making him think he had murdered Lois Lane. Superman didn't break, he forgave him. Killing Superman's friends doesn't turn him into an authoritarian.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:06
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Mm, different interpretations, different situations, etc etc. I can easily envision certain contexts where certain versions of Superman would definitely break. Honestly, the idea that he'd still hang on to goodness after what Black made him believe was a little too optimistic even for me.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:10
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Yeah, the whole point of multiple realities is that there's at least one where killing Lois *will* break him. If I recall, Injustice Lois was also pregnant, but I've never actually read it, so I may be misremembering the pages posted here.
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Sep 7, 2014 05:17
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Plus Manchester made him think he killed Lois. Superman killed Lois himself in Injustice. And she was pregnant.
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Sep 7, 2014 06:29
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Aphrodite posted:Plus Manchester made him think he killed Lois. This is a pretty big difference. At the end of the day, Superman could probably deal with even his closest loved ones being killed by someone else. But killing them himself, for whatever reason? That's going to change him.
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Sep 7, 2014 06:33
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Grendels Dad posted:Hey man, supposedly Bruce was young once upon a time, and young rich people tend to go to the kind of high school where high school comedies or shows take place. This post made me think about the title: "The Fresh Prince of Gotham." That would be something.
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Sep 7, 2014 07:16
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Gatts posted:The entire second phase of movies are better than the first set except Iron Man 1. Captain America is the best of the bunch then Guardians and Iron Man 3 and Thor 2. RANKINGS OF PERSONAL FAVORITES AS TRUTH! Guardians is set to beat Iron Man 1 for highest grossing MCU non-sequel in a few days time. (Not that box office returns are an accurate measure of quality or anything, it's just an interesting bit of trivia.)
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Sep 7, 2014 11:52
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WickedHate posted:Presumably, in this case Bruce is more like he is in The Batman, ie not a totally broken individual only ever putting on a facade when not in Batman mode. I liked that characterization of him. I don't like Batman as a character because he's such a fuckin' whiner all the time. Lots of people have dead parents and they cope. Batman is such a little bitch.
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Sep 7, 2014 14:37
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In Injustice he didn't just kill Lois Lane. He killed Lois Lane, his unborn child and the entire city of Metropolis. The last tends to get overlooked but it was every single person Superman knew who wasn't a superhero or his parents.
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Sep 7, 2014 14:40
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Gatts posted:The entire second phase of movies are better than the first set except Iron Man 1. Captain America is the best of the bunch then Guardians and Iron Man 3 and Thor 2. RANKINGS OF PERSONAL FAVORITES AS TRUTH! Wait, are my two favorites the most feel goodiest? Am I depressed?
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Sep 7, 2014 16:04
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Slugworth posted:With the exception of Guardians, Cap 1 is my favorite. I love the hokey-ness unironically. I am depressed. I'm going to watch some footballs and have some food and drink and draw and write today.
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Sep 7, 2014 16:35
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I'm rewatching Avengers for the millionith time, and when I first saw it, I thought that Thor super charging Iron Man was going to come back into play. Like at the end when they are fighting the big battle Thor would supercharge it again, and Tony would destroy a big chunk of the Chitauri.
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Sep 7, 2014 22:47
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twistedmentat posted:I'm rewatching Avengers for the millionith time, and when I first saw it, I thought that Thor super charging Iron Man was going to come back into play. Like at the end when they are fighting the big battle Thor would supercharge it again, and Tony would destroy a big chunk of the Chitauri. But they already did a pointless-but-cool-looking move with Iron Man bouncing his repulsors off Cap's shield.
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Sep 7, 2014 23:01
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twistedmentat posted:I'm rewatching Avengers for the millionith time, and when I first saw it, I thought that Thor super charging Iron Man was going to come back into play. Like at the end when they are fighting the big battle Thor would supercharge it again, and Tony would destroy a big chunk of the Chitauri. Yeah, that felt like a set up for something that never came. Bugged me when I first saw it.
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Sep 8, 2014 02:18
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah, that felt like a set up for something that never came. Bugged me when I first saw it. The supercharging dealt some pretty obvious damage to the suit, and the resulting repulsor blast didn't seem that much more powerful than average (that kind of bugged me), so I would assume that Tony wouldn't want to inflict that on his newest untested suit.
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Sep 8, 2014 02:26
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I was convinced it was what was gonna restart him at the end, but got over it when the Hulk bit took its place.
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Sep 8, 2014 02:28
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The overcharging felt like a really cheap way to give Iron Man a fighting chance against Thor. Otherwise Thor would have kicked IM's rear end! [/Thor fanboy]
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Sep 8, 2014 09:30
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Magneto Rex posted:I was convinced it was what was gonna restart him at the end, but got over it when the Hulk bit took its place. Yeah, me too. Like he was just lying there with no power in his Arc Reactor. I assumed they were just going to combine the normal Hollywood trope of "electricity brings dead people back to life" with an earlier established Checkov's gun and leave it at that.
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Sep 8, 2014 14:50
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Magneto Rex posted:I was convinced it was what was gonna restart him at the end, but got over it when the Hulk bit took its place. The Question IRL posted:Yeah, me too. Like he was just lying there with no power in his Arc Reactor. I assumed they were just going to combine the normal Hollywood trope of "electricity brings dead people back to life" with an earlier established Checkov's gun and leave it at that. I think it actually was supposed to end that way, but they replaced it with Hulk.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:50
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It does make sense that they may have wanted to avoid suggesting that Tony was semi-immortal as long as there was sufficient electricity or thunder gods around.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:56
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They also set up Thor's hammer causing a giant shockwave when hitting Cap's vibranium shield and did nothing with it. It's a fun movie with fun jokes chemistry but it really is poorly written.
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Sep 8, 2014 17:34
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greatn posted:They also set up Thor's hammer causing a giant shockwave when hitting Cap's vibranium shield and did nothing with it. quote:It's a fun movie with fun jokes chemistry but it really is poorly written. Who they are Their Motivation A narrative arc (this is where the movie doesn't do well) Several fun jokes To do several things that are incredibly badass The fact that Avengers works AT ALL is storytelling miracle. And in all seriousness, barely anything happens - 1. Loki steals the thing + action sequence 2. Most of the team is gathered 3. Loki does something in Germany, is captured 4. Thor shows up and we have a short fight thing 5. Some talking about things 6. Hawkeye and friends attack the hovercarrier, giant action sequence 7. All our characters have redemptive moments 8. Great big New York fight 9. Quick display of the fallout There's just no time for plot when you have to introduce Nick, Loki, Hawkeye, Cap, Black Widow, Bruce Banner, Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Thor, then have them all be shown as changed by their experiences. The only place there's time for plot is 2, 5, and 7. If they had given the film to anyone without a ton of experience with ensembles like Whedon I can't imagine it would have been anything but a disaster.
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Sep 8, 2014 19:04
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You say that nothing happens like it's a weakness, nothing happens in a ton of great movies.
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Sep 8, 2014 19:12
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Lurdiak posted:You say that nothing happens like it's a weakness, nothing happens in a ton of great movies. I'm giving the reason why "the writing isn't great" as the previous poster said. I'm pretty sure he means that it doesn't have strong narrative arcs, which it doesn't. I'm just pointing out that there's not really any way the movie COULD have had strong arcs due to time restraints. It would require a 13-episode season just to have the raw minutes you'd need. I think the Avengers is pretty great. I wish it had strong narrative arcs, but that's me being petty about what's realistically possible - I would also like to have the ability to fly. It does what it sets out to do well, with the possible exception of Thor (I can't think of any Thor joke or moment that I particularly cared for, with the exception of being punched by the Hulk)
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Sep 8, 2014 19:17
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Sep 8, 2014 19:34
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I'm sorry, there appears to be some really annoying watermark of a floating red ghost man on top of this advertisement for SLIDESHOW_
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Sep 8, 2014 21:23
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Kind of interesting they're keeping the widow's peak hood design.
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Sep 8, 2014 21:25
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I'm getting some Man of Steel vibes of that costume.
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Sep 8, 2014 21:41
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Madkal posted:I'm getting some Man of Steel vibes of that costume. Um...  I guess?
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Sep 8, 2014 21:42
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OK, so out of morbid curiosity, I went to see Sin City 2. Short trip report: Out of, what, 4 stories, one of them just about worked, and funnily enough it was one of the original ones Frank made up for the movie. The Lucky Johnny story just about gets away with Frank's dialogue because of JGL, Powers Boothe and Chris Lloyd. I'd happily watch a more straight noir story starring Levitt. (Yeah, yeah, Brick) The Dwight story... Meloni, Green and Brolin tried... I think. Haysbert did a really nice job of filling Duncan's shoes and he, bizarrely, came off the most human for it. I was amused by Meloni's appearance because Stabler from SVU would fit right in in Sin City. The Marv story just came off like too much of Miller rubbing off on Rodriguez. Or maybe Robert's spent too much time away from Tarantino. Either way, the violence crossed the line from heightened to cartoonish. I say it's likely Miller's influence because it reminded me a lot of Frank Miller's The Spirit. (I'm using the full title, because it drat sure wasn't Will Eisner's). Just a weird pogo-ing from Looney Tunes to Skinemax and back. And the Nancy story... wooo boy... Alba really did give it here all. She actually did a fairly credible job as the strung out, drunk Nancy at points, and again, Powers Boothe is enjoyably hateable and corrupt. But Mickey Rourke in the cartoon prosthetics (they weren't that heavy in the first movie, I don't think, right?) and Bruce Willis showing up and watching the clock until he can go home? Goddamn. Just painful.
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Sep 8, 2014 23:04
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Gaz-L posted:Mickey Rourke in the cartoon prosthetics (they weren't that heavy in the first movie, I don't think, right?) I think he's gotten a lot more terrible plastic surgery since the first Sin City, so reconstructing Marv's face on top of it required more scaffolding.
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Sep 8, 2014 23:29
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I know everyone wants John Stewart, but I seriously want Guy Gardner in a movie as Green Lantern because Guy is awesome.
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Sep 9, 2014 02:46
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Hollismason posted:I know everyone wants John Stewart, but I seriously want Guy Gardner in a movie as Green Lantern because Guy is awesome. I want Guy because I'd like to see more superheroes with flaws, who aren't perfectly altruistic, upstanding, and noble all the time. Iron Man came closest, but Guy would be a great contrast against DC's typically godlike JLA members because he's a huge jerk who usually does the right thing in the end, often in spite of himself. See also (despite his radically different personality) Booster Gold.
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SlimGoodbody posted:I think he's gotten a lot more terrible plastic surgery since the first Sin City, so reconstructing Marv's face on top of it required more scaffolding. He definitely has. Saw him a few years ago at the bottle service table behind ours in Vegas and almost didn't recognize him.
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Sep 9, 2014 03:16
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Mickey Rourke's life has been a series of bad decisions.
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Sep 9, 2014 03:17
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I'm excited to see how the gently caress this is going to work in live action. He looks good tho
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Sep 9, 2014 04:18
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I hope they make him creepy as gently caress and have the audience question why the Avengers would trust a robot made by another (murderous) robot
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Sep 9, 2014 04:28
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The thing that sticks out to me is that despite not being made by Pym, Vision has the red and black color scheme of what little of Ant-man's costume we've seen.
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They might go for a synergy thing and drop a line about Ultron being based on Pym's work to plug the up coming movie but more likely they aren't going to bother hand waving a color scheme.
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