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Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
I don't play standard constructed, so I do ok trading the cards I draft for things I need. I think I'll get the fetches pretty cheap trading rares I will never play for them. That's my super cheap magic strategy.

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Samael
Oct 16, 2012



Hey goons, I want to get myself a decent folder that will last me a long time and presents my cards well and I just heard of the FOUR folder so you can show off playsets of cards in one page. Does anyone have one of these and know if they are any good or not?

http://www.shop-021.de/GamesIsland-p2447h20s214-FOUR-Das-Playset-Alb.html this is the folder in question, it looks pretty good but expensive for what it is supposed to be, so I am a bit apprehensive.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Samael posted:

Hey goons, I want to get myself a decent folder that will last me a long time and presents my cards well and I just heard of the FOUR folder so you can show off playsets of cards in one page. Does anyone have one of these and know if they are any good or not?

http://www.shop-021.de/GamesIsland-p2447h20s214-FOUR-Das-Playset-Alb.html this is the folder in question, it looks pretty good but expensive for what it is supposed to be, so I am a bit apprehensive.



Are you needing to have a huge amount of cards to be in one binder? If not, this is actually more my cup of tea.

http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=426147

These work well as a trade binder if you are the type that isn't throwing every bulk rare into your trade binder.

Karmoderm
Aug 24, 2008

Samael posted:

Hey goons, I want to get myself a decent folder that will last me a long time and presents my cards well and I just heard of the FOUR folder so you can show off playsets of cards in one page. Does anyone have one of these and know if they are any good or not?

http://www.shop-021.de/GamesIsland-p2447h20s214-FOUR-Das-Playset-Alb.html this is the folder in question, it looks pretty good but expensive for what it is supposed to be, so I am a bit apprehensive.

One of my friends has one, he knows the guy who produces them. They're good quality (better than similar sized ultra pro folders I think) but I agree that they are a little expensive - they are functional if you want that kind of thing though.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
Hi buying boxes is only worth it if you like, have a lot of sealed/draft to practice because you're a pro or want to be one.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Zoness posted:

Hi buying boxes is only worth it if you like, have a lot of sealed/draft to practice because you're a pro or want to be one.

Or you have an unhealthy obsession with cracking packs.

Starving Autist
Oct 20, 2007

by Ralp
People who say it's not worth cracking packs have never huffed the fumes. Can't put a price on that moment of bliss.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
crack is cheaper

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

Oh my God I want that four by four binder so bad. Does anywhere ship it from the US?

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

If I'm buying a fat pack now, I will crack the packs. But buying a box, I'll just keep it until I'm drafting with friends. I can usually get enough of a pack high from FNMs because my LGS only does draft there.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

Ableist Kinkshamer posted:

People who say it's not worth cracking packs have never huffed the fumes. Can't put a price on that moment of bliss.

Yea you can. Roughly $100/box and return of $30/box, so net loss of $70/box.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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OssiansFolly posted:

Yea you can. Roughly $100/box and return of $30/box, so net loss of $70/box.

I think you're a little on the low side at 30. What are you going by? SCG Buylist? I'd say you get about 70 of value in a 100 dollar box.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
If I ever feel the need to gamble, I just buy a huge collection on eBay.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


GoutPatrol posted:

If I'm buying a fat pack now, I will crack the packs. But buying a box, I'll just keep it until I'm drafting with friends. I can usually get enough of a pack high from FNMs because my LGS only does draft there.

Why would you ever buy a fat pack nowadays? They cost half as much as a whole box and you get a quarter of a box lol

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case




Hm, 5/4 flyer for 4 with upside. Neato.







Mana rocks. Cool.




More morph dudes.


Ok, that's pretty cool.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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So those banners are going to be like 2nd or 3rd picks in draft aren't they...

Vomax
Oct 12, 2005

?

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:


Ok, that's pretty cool.

I like to imagine this guy just has a shovel and a catapult.

Mouth Ze Dong
Jan 2, 2005

Aint no thing like me, 'cept me.
Strictly better cluestones.

Starving Autist
Oct 20, 2007

by Ralp

clueclanstones!

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



mcmagic posted:

So those banners are going to be like 2nd or 3rd picks in draft aren't they...

I don't think they're good enough mana rocks for that.

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

The blowout morph.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
The glorious poo banner of Temur

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Elyv posted:

I don't think they're good enough mana rocks for that.

Really? I think they are pretty good, they are fixing plus they draw you a card late game...

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


End of Life Guy posted:

Strictly better cluestones.
Uh, no, as they require an extra mana/color to draw a card. Still better than cluestones though.
That common jeskai morpher is really powerful too- fairly easy to eat something of theirs and make another creature trade.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Edit: drat yooooou^^^^^^

End of Life Guy posted:

Strictly better cluestones.

Not when you factor the draw effect costing 3.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


I liked the lich a lot less until I realized you can Delve away your lovely creatures in the yard and leave him just serious business to work with.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Chill la Chill posted:

Why would you ever buy a fat pack nowadays? They cost half as much as a whole box and you get a quarter of a box lol

I have no idea where you are buying fat packs that expensive.

Skillface
Oct 7, 2012
The lich is pretty slow for what that deck wants to do (in my experience). It's also a delicate balance because he slowly kills your nighthowlers. But it seems like a sort of whip effect that would work in a more control-based and longer-game version of the BUG graveyard deck.

Fingers McLongDong
Nov 30, 2005

not eromenos
Fun Shoe
Butcher of the Horde is very much constructed playable.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:


Ok, that's pretty cool.

So, this templating fixes the weird interaction where you can keep the creature if you can find some other effect to flicker it, right? I'm specifically remembering keeping a whipped Obzedat around forever.

Also, we're totally seeing that artifact morph creature a few more times before we leave Tarkir, etched oracle/champion/monstrosity style.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Skillface posted:

The lich is pretty slow for what that deck wants to do (in my experience). It's also a delicate balance because he slowly kills your nighthowlers. But it seems like a sort of whip effect that would work in a more control-based and longer-game version of the BUG graveyard deck.

It's pretty bad. Way worse than Whip.

Lunsku
May 21, 2006

Chill la Chill posted:

Why would you ever buy a fat pack nowadays? They cost half as much as a whole box and you get a quarter of a box lol

They're pretty great size for hauling my magic stuff with me. One can nicely fit two deck boxes, dice and counters, tokens and lands for drafts. Also more like third the price here for that quarter.

Should really get around buying one, my Rise of the Eldrazi fat pack is starting to get pretty worn down.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Fingers McLongDong posted:

Butcher of the Horde is very much constructed playable.

The cards in the Mardu color spectrum appear to be the majority of good cards revealed so far. I really want it to be as good as I think it will be. :ohdear:

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

GoutPatrol posted:

I have no idea where you are buying fat packs that expensive.

Fat Packs retail for $40. Just under half a box.

Wurzag
Jun 3, 2007

Bad Moons, Bad Moons, wot ya gonna do?


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:


Ok, that's pretty cool.

I really like this guy but is he not too expensive to be worth using in constructed?

Edit: looks like I was beaten to it

Honestly a bit disappointed with how Sultai has turned out, they have a couple of ok cards but some of the other clans seem to have way way better stuff.

Wurzag fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Sep 9, 2014

Fingers McLongDong
Nov 30, 2005

not eromenos
Fun Shoe

Sickening posted:

The cards in the Mardu color spectrum appear to be the majority of good cards revealed so far. I really want it to be as good as I think it will be. :ohdear:

Mardu and abzan both have a decent amount of constructed playable creatures for an aggro or midrange style deck. The other clans have neat stuff but not as much of it seems realistically playable in constructed.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
At this point I've given up hope on the Temur khan. When they slow-roll the last card in a cycle like this, it's usually because it's tremendously disappointing.

Interestingly, the website had the September 12th article by Sam Stoddard up there for a minute, but clicking on it led to a "You don't have permission to view this article" page.

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

Boxman posted:

So, this templating fixes the weird interaction where you can keep the creature if you can find some other effect to flicker it, right? I'm specifically remembering keeping a whipped Obzedat around forever.

No. Blinking your dude will exile them, which is nowhere except exile, so they'll snap back to the battlefield fresh and clean.

Uhhlive
Jun 18, 2004

I'm not the public.
I'm the President

Boxman posted:

So, this templating fixes the weird interaction where you can keep the creature if you can find some other effect to flicker it, right? I'm specifically remembering keeping a whipped Obzedat around forever.

Also, we're totally seeing that artifact morph creature a few more times before we leave Tarkir, etched oracle/champion/monstrosity style.

No, it is still the same. Flickered creatures are still exiled and this sees "oh is it getting exiled? Oh cool that's fine, my job is done."

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

mcmagic posted:

It's pretty bad. Way worse than Whip.

Flying and trample isn't insignificant but you're right, I'd rather have Whip (which also has the advantage of doing it at instant speed rather than on upkeep)

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