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Anarkii posted:I figure this is the right place to ask. How long does red vermouth keep after opening if you refrigerate it? The answers online vary wildly from a few weeks to a year. It depends on what you mean by "keep". I've never actually had it become undrinkable, so the year number is probably accurate there, but after a couple weeks you can start to notice some changes in flavor, so if you care about it tasting 100% fresh then the couple weeks is accurate.
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For me, the first oxidization notes are usually apparent around 10 days. Hell, I've even grown to enjoy old vermouth, having worked in so many crappy bars that I just rail the decade old martini & rossi as a public service.
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Sep 5, 2014 17:20
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Fresh Dolin has completely changed my opinion on vermouth in martinis.
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Sep 5, 2014 17:25
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I started using a vacuvin stopper on my fridge vermouth and it keeps for at least a couple months. I no longer pour extra vermouth down the drain in a sad monthly ritual.
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It's wine, it goes bad by oxidizing. If you want to extend the shelf life, you can limit its access to oxygen. There are several wine gadgets for this that work by pumping air out of the bottle, etc. They'll be available online or wherever fine hooch is sold. In Craft Cocktails at Home, Kevin Liu recommends buying the wine preservation kits that essentially spray argon into the bottle. (Argon is heavier than air and inert, so it displaces the oxygen from the wine.) The layer of argon has to be reapplied every time you use the bottle, so he pours his fortified wines into smaller bottles (20 oz plastic soda bottles, looks like) which he treats with argon and uses one at a time. (Presumably he uses a whole bottle before it goes bad and doesn't reapply the argon every time.) Personally, that sounds like a lot of effort, so I just try to drink lots of vermouth cocktails when I open a bottle. YMMV.
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I've always wondered why they don't offer vermouth in tonic water-sized bottles. I'd probably be willing to pay double by volume if i didn't have to keep buying big bottles and pouring them down the drain after they go bad.
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Sep 5, 2014 23:35
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Dolin vermouths are available in 375ml bottles and cost about 50% more by volume, so you're in luck! Also I've found that the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake after you add the cherry and orange slice, but before you add the club soda.
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Sep 5, 2014 23:39
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Shake an old fashioned. I loving dare you.
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Sep 5, 2014 23:44
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Dolin vermouths are available in 375ml bottles and cost about 50% more by volume, so you're in luck! Club soda????
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Invalid Octopus posted:Club soda???? Orange slice??? edit: shake???
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Sep 6, 2014 00:07
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Hey cocktail thread my Old Fashioned is flat, anyone know what the problem might be?
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Sep 6, 2014 00:56
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Shaken old fashioneds?! Club soda? Where the gently caress am I? It's like I ordered it at a chili's or something. I wonder if this is how Hemingway feels about frozen daiquiris
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Dolin vermouths are available in 375ml bottles and cost about 50% more by volume, so you're in luck! still too big. also not available in PA. e: basically what i want is this but with less lovely wine and more awesome vermouth:  quote:Also I've found that the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake after you add the cherry and orange slice, but before you add the club soda. 
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Sep 6, 2014 01:53
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You could also just drink vermouth as an apertif once a week or so. Chilled dry vermouth with a lemon twist is a lovely pre-dinner drink. So is Italian vermouth with a slice of orange.
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PatMarshall posted:You could also just drink vermouth as an apertif once a week or so. Chilled dry vermouth with a lemon twist is a lovely pre-dinner drink. So is Italian vermouth with a slice of orange. A little dry vermouth is fantastic with breakfast but weekday morning drinking is a dark road to start walking down.
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Sep 6, 2014 03:21
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Also totally available in PA, you just have to babe your local state store order it special for you.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Also I've found that the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake after you add the cherry and orange slice, but before you add the club soda. Stunning troll.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Also I've found that the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake after you add the cherry and orange slice, but before you add the club soda. Pity this is too long for a thread title.
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Sep 6, 2014 12:56
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Just like to give my opinion that Ungava gin should not be used in a Gin & Tonic. The flavour is just too subtle, and gets blown away. The overall taste is alright; you're just not going to get anything unique from the gin to come through.
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Got my Parisienne shaker today. I'm a cool kid now. just need an hilarious Yarai mixing glass now
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 I just realized that I now live in a state that wasn't founded by loving Puritains and therefore can buy booze in the mail. The rum thread has turned me and my partner into rum snobs, so I have a whole list of bottles I want to pick up, but I also love a good cocktail and am thinking of picking up some of the weirder stuff--Cynar, maybe, and some Dolin vermouth (and, apparently, a vacuvin to preserve it). What else should I get now that the world can be shipped to me?
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Sep 8, 2014 18:36
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Club Soda Seriously though, if you can find Chairman's Reserve Spiced Rum, pick up a bottle. http://www.saintluciarums.com/chairmans-reserve-spiced.html
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pgroce posted:Pity this is too long for a thread title. Cocktail Thread: "the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake" I had a guy once give me back the Old Fashioned I made him because he was a bartender once too and I didn't add a cherry or club soda and therefore didn't know what I was doing. Also, question, anyone know any good drinks using Scotch and Cynar? Or Scotch and Green Chartreuse? I want something incorporating both those flavors, but having trouble so far.
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Duey posted:Cocktail Thread: "the key to a good Old Fashioned is to shake" End of the Road. Equal parts Islay, Campari, Green Chartreuse. It's magic. http://www.kindredcocktails.com/cocktail/end-of-the-road
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Duey posted:Or Scotch and Green Chartreuse? A modern classic: The Laphroaig Project
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I'm looking to make a large batch of some kind of gin or rum based drink to bring to an adult softball tournament this weekend in an igloo cooler. It looks to be at least 90 degrees this weekend so ice cold and refreshing is the key. This is will be more of a binge drinking event than a classy cocktail party so no high dollar spirits, champagne, etc. I'm imagining gin with some combination of: mint/basil, citrus, maybe cucumber, maybe watermelon, maybe something fizzy. Any suggestions?
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jason posted:I'm looking to make a large batch of some kind of gin or rum based drink to bring to an adult softball tournament this weekend in an igloo cooler. It looks to be at least 90 degrees this weekend so ice cold and refreshing is the key. This is will be more of a binge drinking event than a classy cocktail party so no high dollar spirits, champagne, etc. I made a watermelon/lime juice last weekend (it needed quite a bit of sweetening to stand against the booze), muddled a mint with it, and added a gin. Was quite tasty.
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jason posted:I'm looking to make a large batch of some kind of gin or rum based drink to bring to an adult softball tournament this weekend in an igloo cooler. It looks to be at least 90 degrees this weekend so ice cold and refreshing is the key. This is will be more of a binge drinking event than a classy cocktail party so no high dollar spirits, champagne, etc.
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jason posted:I'm looking to make a large batch of some kind of gin or rum based drink to bring to an adult softball tournament this weekend in an igloo cooler. It looks to be at least 90 degrees this weekend so ice cold and refreshing is the key. This is will be more of a binge drinking event than a classy cocktail party so no high dollar spirits, champagne, etc. Kenning posted:If you want a really inexpensive punch that everyone will love, you can go with Limmer's Club Gin Punch. It's so cheap and so popular with my friends that I'm totally sick of it, but it'll definitely be a hit, and if you make it with handle of Beefeater or Bombay Original or especially New Amsterdam it's like $0.75/drink. It's also easy to scale and memorize.
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Liking both the watermelon/lime/mint and the south side ideas. Kenning, I have actually made that punch and one other you posted for different parties and they were a big hit. For this though, I think I'm leaning towards something with cucumber or watermelon (or both!)in it. Those two ingredients just scream hot summer day to me.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:59
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Simple enough: Pimm's Cup
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Any idea what a good cocktail is that uses Hennessy? Preferably something that is appealing to girls? My friend is opening a club and got 24 bottles of Hennessy as samples and I am trying to think of a way to get rid of it.
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Ned posted:Any idea what a good cocktail is that uses Hennessy? Preferably something that is appealing to girls? My friend is opening a club and got 24 bottles of Hennessy as samples and I am trying to think of a way to get rid of it. Sidecar and variants thereof
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GrAviTy84 posted:looks like you beat me to the punch jason posted:Liking both the watermelon/lime/mint and the south side ideas. Kenning, I have actually made that punch and one other you posted for different parties and they were a big hit. For this though, I think I'm leaning towards something with cucumber or watermelon (or both!)in it. Those two ingredients just scream hot summer day to me. Fair call! Watermelon and cucumber are both intensely refreshing. It's cool to know you've tried your hand at a punch or two as well – it's good to have a variety of group drinks available to share.
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jason posted:Liking both the watermelon/lime/mint and the south side ideas. Kenning, I have actually made that punch and one other you posted for different parties and they were a big hit. For this though, I think I'm leaning towards something with cucumber or watermelon (or both!)in it. Those two ingredients just scream hot summer day to me.
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My brother has 2 bottles of Southern Comfort (no idea why) and wants to use it up in a punch. Any ideas?
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angor posted:My brother has 2 bottles of Southern Comfort (no idea why) and wants to use it up in a punch. Any ideas? The simplest thing to do is just mix it with lemonade. SoCo is very, very sweet so lemonade cuts that. You could also throw it in with some unsweetened black tea and lemonade for a boozy arnold palmer thing. If you hate your brother and want to give him a very serious hangover, here is also a helldrink we used to make called "the gummy bear," if you're into that kind of (horrible) thing: 2 parts SoCo 2 parts Midori (or other melon liqueur) 2 parts amaretto 1 part grenadine 2 parts sour mix 1 part soda water (I cannot endorse the creation or consumption of this drink but we used to make it for people who wanted something that didn't taste like booze. Garnish with a gummy worm to complete the shame.) Apparently there is also this recipe for a Fog Cutter which uses SoCo. Honestly, you're not going to find too many non-trashy drinks made with SoCo, because it's not whiskey, it's a liqueur for people who want to pretend they drink whiskey. (Seriously, the ingredients include neutral grain spirits and whiskey flavoring.)
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Any suggestions for fun things to do with Aperol? I got some for aperol spritzes but now I'm bored with those.
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GrAviTy84 posted:Any suggestions for fun things to do with Aperol? I got some for aperol spritzes but now I'm bored with those. Aperol, tequila, grapefruit soda and lime juice. I wanna say roughly equal parts, but it's been a while.
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