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Country with socialized healthcare but without exotic diseases.
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zoux posted:Country with socialized healthcare but without exotic diseases.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:22
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Bird flu mate 
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Sep 9, 2014 20:23
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zoux posted:Bird flu mate Angola has all your needs without the locals or help you'd encounter in Dubai. E2: Bad MERS-CoV reference  E: Go to China and flash a black credit card while wearing a decent watch. There, saved you a kidney*. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Sep 9, 2014 20:24
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How many hookers can you get in Thailand for $10 million? At the same time?
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Sep 9, 2014 20:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A939QRRSNV4
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Sep 9, 2014 20:26
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zoux posted:Bird flu mate Don't lie, you were imagining some kind of disease that suddenly festoons your clothing with saffron tassels and you fart incense.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:30
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An "exotic" disease like the "eclectic" "urbans."
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Sep 9, 2014 20:32
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My Imaginary GF posted:And again, the case I provided. You attack your imagined sentiment; I provide a common case for millions in America. How much should a family of 5 spend on groceries while living in a transit-oriented city and meeting minimum federal recommendations for nutrition? You're going to have to spell out what we're arguing about, I guess, because I thought I was talking about a thing actually expressed on a show with which people took umbrage, and which also falls within the goal posts you've set. I mean if you just want to say that you can come up with something that would be ruinous for any given family, uh, I think Hieronymous Alloy has the right of it and I agree with you? Going by the USDA meal plans, your numbers for food sound reasonable to me for a household making that kind of money.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:34
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SedanChair posted:Don't lie, you were imagining some kind of disease that suddenly festoons your clothing with saffron tassels and you fart incense. Guess what the first thing I think about is when I hear the word Thailand.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:36
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Sex tourism?
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Sep 9, 2014 20:39
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Sex tourism.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:42
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Russia has socialized healthcare, no exotic diseases, and sex tourism, off you go
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Sep 9, 2014 20:44
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Dreylad posted:Russia has socialized healthcare, no exotic diseases, and sex tourism, off you go I'm just going to go ahead and label skin rotting off due to krokodil use as an exotic disease.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:55
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Dreylad posted:Russia has socialized healthcare, no exotic diseases, and sex tourism, off you go Russia's population has declined 7 million since 2006 and no one knows why. e: ahem I mean since 1992.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:56
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm just going to go ahead and label skin rotting off due to krokodil use as an exotic disease. Also "suicidal malaise" probably qualifies. http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/sep/02/dying-russians/ After reading that article I almost didn't back https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1535515364/pathologic out of fear the developers would just off themselves halfway through the project.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:57
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eviltastic posted:You're going to have to spell out what we're arguing about, I guess, because I thought I was talking about a thing actually expressed on a show with which people took umbrage, and which also falls within the goal posts you've set. I mean if you just want to say that you can come up with something that would be ruinous for any given family, uh, I think Hieronymous Alloy has the right of it and I agree with you? My point is, the tone used has to improve before politics and quality of life for all can improve in this country. You can't discount a family which spends 26k/yr on food as not living a hard enough life, when the financial stress they feel is the same as the stress of poverty. From what I've seen, when people go 'You make 6 figures, have a family vacation once a year, and eat out? You're the 1% and only get the world's smallest violin,' it pushes the greatest ally for organizing and pressuring into the oppo's ideological camp.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:00
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My Imaginary GF posted:when the financial stress they feel is the same as the stress of poverty. It. . isn't, though? Like, not at all? It's different both in kind and degree? Part of the issue is making the relatively well off realize the absolute horror and pain that is true poverty. You don't make converts to progressivism by convincing people that we're all in the same boat because social pressure-to-spend is the same as starvation. You make converts by making the rich and protected realize what real starvation actually is, realize that their problems are petty and trivial beside that, and realize that they therefore need to help because they are horrible evil people if they don't.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:04
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Regarding various healthcare systems, here are some short but decent quality (i.e. only minor errors) videos regarding some country's health care systems: Canada England France Germany Japan Singapore Switzerland United States
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Sep 9, 2014 21:04
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My Imaginary GF posted:From what I've seen, when people go 'You make 6 figures, have a family vacation once a year, and eat out? You're the 1% and only get the world's smallest violin,' it pushes the greatest ally for organizing and pressuring into the oppo's ideological camp. Oh no I've offended our lords! Our saints! Those who intercede on our behalf! Those who are most effective! They thought themselves our allies, then I pointed out that they make ten to a thousand times what I make!
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Sep 9, 2014 21:06
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zoux posted:Russia's population has declined 7 million since 2006 and no one knows why. Is Russia in the middle of a pre-Nazi Germany humiliation to fascism spiral?
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Sep 9, 2014 21:11
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another solution is to guillotine these people and let the working class rule
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Sep 9, 2014 21:12
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Miltank posted:Is Russia in the middle of a pre-Nazi Germany humiliation to fascism spiral? More at the end of it but yeah.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:14
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Miltank posted:Is Russia in the middle of a pre-Nazi Germany humiliation to fascism spiral? Don't worry, Russia will never become like Nazi Germany. Because Nazism was only possible due to the heriditary jew hatred of the German people. \ 
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Sep 9, 2014 21:16
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zoux posted:Russia's population has declined 7 million since 2006 and no one knows why. ripe for immigration if you ask me!
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Sep 9, 2014 21:21
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Russia will never become like Nazi Germany because Russia can't summon the amount of teamwork and organization necessary to do anything (evil or good) at a national scale.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:22
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It. . isn't, though? Like, not at all? It's different both in kind and degree? It really is though? Perceived stress is stressful and physically painful. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.psyneuen.2014.04.005 SedanChair posted:Oh no I've offended our lords! Our saints! Those who intercede on our behalf! Those who are most effective! They thought themselves our allies, then I pointed out that they make ten to a thousand times what I make! And have as much in assets, if not less.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:22
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My Imaginary GF posted:It really is though? Perceived stress is stressful and physically painful. And poverty causes actual physical brain damage. Pain and stress are the human condition, but the stress of literally not knowing how you will pay for your next meal is pain and stress many orders of magnitude more severe than the pain and stress you feel because the neighbors have a larger television than you do. Perhaps not coincidentally, many philosophers and religious thinkers throughout history have pointed out that one of the best ways to relieve the perceived stress of rat-race social status comparisons is to understand the plight of those truly in poverty and spend more time helping others and less time worrying about how you measure up to others.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:31
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Speaking of fascism, is there any good discussion on North Korea going on right now? I mean, nothing really happened or anything. I just finished reading The Cleanest Race for the second time and like talking about North Korea.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:36
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pangstrom posted:Russia will never become like Nazi Germany because Russia can't summon the amount of teamwork and organization necessary to do anything (evil or good) at a national scale. 1941-1945 begs to differ.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:36
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My Imaginary GF posted:My point is, the tone used has to improve before politics and quality of life for all can improve in this country. You can't discount a family which spends 26k/yr on food as not living a hard enough life, when the financial stress they feel is the same as the stress of poverty. also: lol i started reading again from page 242 and was real worried we would start talking about poor people's eating habits again but we didn't! go team!
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Sep 9, 2014 21:37
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And poverty causes actual physical brain damage. Perceived poverty causes multi-generational brain damage. Actual poverty results in death. We both want the same end result: to end poverty, both actual and perceived. Would you say its a fair assessment that your view is that policy should first result in a reduction of actual poverty rates, while mine is that policy should first result in a reduction of perceived poverty rates?
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Sep 9, 2014 21:37
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also lol at describing nazi germany as organized or having teamwork
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Sep 9, 2014 21:38
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Badger of Basra posted:also: lol We're all good party members itt.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:39
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Raskolnikov38 posted:also lol at describing nazi germany as organized or having teamwork They arguably made a great team at stemming the German war effort.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:39
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Raskolnikov38 posted:also lol at describing nazi germany as organized or having teamwork i was talking about the ussr edit: oh you meant the person i quoted
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Sep 9, 2014 21:40
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My Imaginary GF posted:Perceived poverty causes multi-generational brain damage. Actual poverty results in death. We both want the same end result: to end poverty, both actual and perceived.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:40
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My Imaginary GF posted:And have as much in assets, if not less. Bullshit. I'm not even coming from an 'eat the rich' perspective here, in your example those IRA contributions you were having the family make are assets that are orders of magnitudes higher than what people on food stamps are able to accrue. That's not even getting into intangible assets, like the college degrees and personal and professional connections the couple have that open an incredible amount of doors which are closed to people struggling to make a living without as much as a high school diploma. It's true the middle class don't have much in the way of security, but they come nowhere close to the daily walk along the knife edge that is poverty.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:41
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Randler posted:They arguably made a great team at stemming the German war effort. How long do yall spend in high school on WWII?
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Sep 9, 2014 21:41
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"gymnasium" whatever.
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