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Avocados posted:Jesus christ I knew the 6 Plus would be big but not that big. The death of my Galaxy S3 (which I already considered a massive phone) means my phone is always in a case. I can only imagine the size of the Plus with an Otterbox on it. iPhone 6 it is. Who is buying these? Women who want a 2 handed device and never travel without a hand bag to carry the phone?
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Josh Lyman posted:And yet the Note looks perfectly normal in Lebron James' hands in those commercials. If My Girlfriend is anything to go by yes. She's buying the note 4 day one.
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Josh Lyman posted:Who is buying these? Women who want a 2 handed device and never travel without a hand bag to carry the phone? I'm a tiny woman and I had a Note 3. I bought mine pretty much for the pressure sensitive stylus (I'm an artist and I thought it would be awesome to have a digital sketchbook in my pocket) so I guess my motivation was different than most people's, but anyway, it turned out to be a bit too big for every day use, and I switched back to the iPhone 5s despite really liking the Note. Honestly, the big screen is nice but it's such a huge goddamn pain in the rear end to do anything with the phone with one hand, which you do way more often than you'd think. Carrying groceries, phone rings? Gotta drop the groceries because the phone doesn't fit in your pocket so it's in your bag and you have to open it and fish the phone out. Walking the dog, she does something cute. Wanna take a picture without letting go of the leash? Good luck with that. It's just so unwieldy, it's not comfortable to hold. And that's with Android's navigation style, which is in the bottom of the phone (or screen if your phone doesn't have physical buttons). iOS on the iPad is fine because it's a tablet and you're not using it like a phone anyway, but it's gonna be a nightmare on the larger iPhones because it was designed to be used with small screens and the navigation is always on the top of the app. Also, a lot of people have big Android phones because (at least until very recently) there were no good small Android phones. So it wasn't so much that they were buying the phones because they wanted big phones, they were buying them because the smaller ones had really poo poo specs. Everybody talks about how there's this huge market for large phones based on Android phone sales but no one ever seems to think about the fact that people who want a non-lovely device don't really have a choice when it comes to the size. The lack of good small devices is a pretty common complaint in the Android community. Not saying that people don't like/want larger screens, just saying it's not necessarily true that everyone wants them, even Android users.
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So which version of the iPhone is the one to buy off-contract? http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ Applying previous logic, one should get the Verizon version (A1549 CDMA) because it works with Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile. It seems that the Sprint version (A1586) incrementally supports the TD-LTE and TD-SCDMA bands, but my understanding is that it cannot be unlocked for domestic use. Why would Apple not release the A1586 as the off-contract version? It doesn't seem to make sense. I travel a ton and would love to have the extra bands for roaming/SIM card swapping. Pissingintowind fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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the kawaiiest posted:Also, a lot of people have big Android phones because (at least until very recently) there were no good small Android phones. So it wasn't so much that they were buying the phones because they wanted big phones, they were buying them because the smaller ones had really poo poo specs. Everybody talks about how there's this huge market for large phones based on Android phone sales but no one ever seems to think about the fact that people who want a non-lovely device don't really have a choice when it comes to the size. The lack of good small devices is a pretty common complaint in the Android community.
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Josh Lyman posted:This is an excellent point, and one think I think was discussed a while back in this or some other related thread. I agree with the underlying notion, but literally 99% of people don't think twice about it, and Apple clearly caved to market pressure. Yeah I don't really disagree with that, I just honestly think they made a mistake with the 5.5" iPhone. I can totally understand 4.7" (even though I like the smaller size of the 5s better) but 5.5" is way, way too big. I mean...  Just look at it. I'm a person who has used Android for years and I'm used to huge phones but that... that is just way too goddamn big, and it's made worse by the fact that it runs an OS that was designed for small screens. I hope that hugephone doesn't sell very well and that next year they go regular iPhone size + 4.7" for their lineup. I think that's much more reasonable.
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If they don't end up making a 5/5s sized iPhone 7 or whatever, I'm going to be very sad. For me, the form factor of the 5 is perfect and while the 4.7" is all right I think it's a tad too big for my purposes.
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah I don't really disagree with that, I just honestly think they made a mistake with the 5.5" iPhone. I can totally understand 4.7" (even though I like the smaller size of the 5s better) but 5.5" is way, way too big. I mean... But I'd like the 4" to continue as a new model too, if only to provide a full high end lineup for whatever user preferences. Or some halfway solution like spec equivalent plastic models, I'd be down for a 4" 6C. Plastic haters can deal with the upsell and bigger size. ijyt posted:Did anyone get to geekbench at the hands-on booth?  if the iPad mini doesn't get 2GB).
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I have a dumb question. iOS 8 comes with iCloud Drive, so I'm assuming I'll be upgraded to it next week. That's fine, but Mavericks doesn't have iCloud Drive support, and I use a ton of Mac apps that sync with my iPhone and iPad via iCloud (Day One, Textastic, etc). Are they still going to sync? I was in the Yosemite beta and I had to roll back to Mavericks because my apps weren't syncing. I'm assuming it'll work the other way around somehow, because Apple wouldn't release iOS 8 before Yosemite if that didn't work, right? japtor posted:Well I guess they're embracing the whole "phablet" nature of it by treating it as a large screen to an extent, i.e. using some iPad layout schemes. It'll be interesting to see how third parties adapt cause if they've been using the new auto layout stuff for iPhone/iPad views, they should get the new big phone optimized view semi automagically. I thought the resolution was curious, I get 1920x1080p is a standard res but it's arbitrary when talking about iOS devices. New PPI screws with the whole screen points system they've established over the last 7 years. Yeah I suppose you're right, but that still doesn't solve the problem of the phone being too goddamn big. I guess I'm just annoyed because my most wanted feature is only available on the hugephone (OIS) which means I'll probably end up with one unless a miracle happens and they put it on the smaller iPhone 6s next year. I gave up on my Note 3 because it was unwieldy so I'm really not happy about this.
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Raffles posted:Are chamfered edges dead? Yes and about time.
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How do carrier trade-ins usually work? If I wanted to trade-in my Verizon iPhone 5 for an iPhone 6 64GB, would I just pay the $100 out of pocket or is it not even an option? edit: nm, I don't anyone really knows specifics right now Auron fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Pissingintowind posted:So which version of the iPhone is the one to buy off-contract? http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah I don't really disagree with that, I just honestly think they made a mistake with the 5.5" iPhone. I can totally understand 4.7" (even though I like the smaller size of the 5s better) but 5.5" is way, way too big. I mean... You are aware of the Samsung Galaxy Note lineup right? The 6+ is a few mm taller than the new Note 4, while being a little bit narrower and thinner. I switched from an iPhone to a Note because I needed the larger screen size to get reading done on the go, and despite my preference for iOS over Android, I'd have upgraded to the new Note this October if there were no 5.5 inch iPhone. The 6+ is an ideal device to me, and I'm guessing to a lot of other people.
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TyrantWD posted:You are aware of the Samsung Galaxy Note lineup right? The 6+ is a few mm taller than the new Note 4, while being a little bit narrower and thinner. I switched from an iPhone to a Note because I needed the larger screen size to get reading done on the go, and despite my preference for iOS over Android, I'd have upgraded to the new Note this October if there were no 5.5 inch iPhone. The 6+ is an ideal device to me, and I'm guessing to a lot of other people. Yes, I owned a Galaxy Note 3 for a few months. It is too goddamn big and unwieldy for me. I don't have a problem with Apple releasing a huge phone for people like you who enjoy them, though, I just wish they hadn't taken away the standard iPhone size, which millions upon millions of people are perfectly happy with, and I am legit mad that my most wanted feature for the iPhone (OIS) is only available on the huge model. Hopefully they'll sort it all out next year when it's time for me to upgrade.
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TyrantWD posted:You are aware of the Samsung Galaxy Note lineup right? The 6+ is a few mm taller than the new Note 4, while being a little bit narrower and thinner. I switched from an iPhone to a Note because I needed the larger screen size to get reading done on the go, and despite my preference for iOS over Android, I'd have upgraded to the new Note this October if there were no 5.5 inch iPhone. The 6+ is an ideal device to me, and I'm guessing to a lot of other people.
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Josh Lyman posted:People complained that they were delicate, but I really liked them. They were bad for 'no case and careless' crew. My 5 looks arbour 10 years old at this point.
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Josh Lyman posted:Can you speak to your reading use case on a 5.5" phone? I hadn't really considered it, but that's actually the most useful thing to me about a tablet, so maybe a phablet could fill that roll. Reading on a smaller phone isn't any worse and is usually better. Lighter, easier to use one handed so you don't have to use two hands like you're reading a dumb physical book. Even if you think a 4" iPhone is too small for reading, a 5.5" one is too far the other way to be ideal. If you're talking about something like technical manuals or whatever, a 5.5" screen likely isn't enough bigger than a 4.7" to make much of an improvement, while still having the ergonomic downsides.
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Josh Lyman posted:Can you speak to your reading use case on a 5.5" phone? I hadn't really considered it, but that's actually the most useful thing to me about a tablet, so maybe a phablet could fill that roll. I do plenty of reading for work and at all times of the day since I work with teams in Europe (I get a lot of long emails that I need to approve before they are sent out, and plenty of documents) and it was a real chore on my old iPhone. I also read pretty quickly, so scrolling constantly and reading was a pain. When I switched over to the Note, I found it to be the perfect compromise of screen size and portability. I didn't, and still don't have an iPad with data, so if I received something while waiting on the train platform in the morning I'd have been out of luck even if I chose to carry my tablet around. Despite all the productivity improvements I got from the bigger screen Note, it was the improvement in reading books for pleasure that really sealed the deal for me. The original iPad mini is what drew me back into reading after years of gaming in every minute I wasn't working, and being able to knock out a chapter or two every time you find some free time (waiting for someone, waiting in line) is pretty much the killer feature I was looking for in a phone. The larger screen size can be a bit unwieldy at times, but considering that my phone is used as an actual phone for a small fraction of my overall usage, I'd happily make the tradeoff.
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What would be the best way to go about selling my 5s when the new phone comes out? It's got some dings and chips from regular use, but it works perfectly. Craigslist/Ebay?
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TheJoker138 posted:What would be the best way to go about selling my 5s when the new phone comes out? It's got some dings and chips from regular use, but it works perfectly. Craigslist/Ebay? Easily craigslist for me. People on CL are generally less interested in dings/scratches and pay cash. I got $175 for an iPhone 4 with a completely shattered front glass when the 5 came out.
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I'll agree with the larger phones being much better for reading. I'm excited to see the 6+, I absolutely loved the Note 3 because it was awesome for reading my feeds and any books I had put on there. Didn't really have to worry about how far from my eyes it was. The physical size wasn't a huge bother except not being able to use it one handed in many cases but I don't even use my current 5 one handed that often.TheJoker138 posted:What would be the best way to go about selling my 5s when the new phone comes out? It's got some dings and chips from regular use, but it works perfectly. Craigslist/Ebay? I'd say Craigslist, ebay, or even Amazon if you want the most money. I got offers for $320 for my 16gb 5 refurb. Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-6-Plus,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/8908,7984 I love that tool. cage-free egghead fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Non new-phone chat for a sec. I recently received an iPhone 5C for work use (the whole IT dept did). While its a great improvement over my old work Blackberry, there's something that's bothering me. I'm a remote tech, so I get a lot of email. I also get pages for high(er) severity stuff. Because I'm remote, I also get pages for stuff not in my immediate region, stuff that I'd never have to deal with cause its all 10+ hours away and there are other techs in the "region" that are waaaay closer. I want to be able to just put my phone on silent over the weekend and the only notification I want to hear out of the phone are for pages. Fortunately, pages come from a unique email address, so they're already flagged as VIP in mail.app with a unique ringtone. Is there a way that I can silence my iPhone and ONLY have VIP notifications come through? A base OS setting somewhere? A better mail app?
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Snuffman posted:Non new-phone chat for a sec. I want to say that IFTTT will do this. Turn on do not disturb, add IFTTT's number to your favourites, allow calls from them and set up an alert to call (or text) every time you get a specific email. I'm not sure if this will work or how well, maybe check with the app thread too. Edit: do not disturb is the setting you want, but I think it only lets calls through from your favourites. There may be a way to have certain emails generate a phone call from a number in your favourites. tuyop fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Will they even let you preorder off contract phones? I need to buy my own hardware and then move it to a company contract (long story) so I just want to pay full price for an ATT iPhone 6. So far I have only seen the options to get discounted contract phones.
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Has the amount of RAM in the 6/6+ been confirmed? Guessing it's still 1GB, but I guess maybe we won't know until a teardown is released?
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Ultimate Mango posted:Will they even let you preorder off contract phones? I need to buy my own hardware and then move it to a company contract (long story) so I just want to pay full price for an ATT iPhone 6. So far I have only seen the options to get discounted contract phones. I believe the T-Mobile one is unlocked & off contract, not sure if there are any differences between it and the AT&T model though.
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tonic posted:Has the amount of RAM in the 6/6+ been confirmed? Guessing it's still 1GB, but I guess maybe we won't know until a teardown is released? AFAIK it's still 1gb.
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Factory posted:Cross posting from the event thread: If past years are any indication, Apple will restrict shipping to the billing address on file for the account, you have to call your carrier when the device arrives if you're doing a cross-upgrade, and phones will be delivered by UPS.
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Auron posted:How do carrier trade-ins usually work? If I wanted to trade-in my Verizon iPhone 5 for an iPhone 6 64GB, would I just pay the $100 out of pocket or is it not even an option? You go to the carrier store and give them your old phone, they piss in your face and let you buy a new one. If you have more than 5 minutes of free time, you're Edit: Just checked Verizon's trade-in prices. Even with the promotional rates, yeah, they're paying slightly more than half of what a 5 sells for privately. Molten Llama fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Molten Llama posted:You go to the carrier store and give them your old phone, they piss in your face and let you buy a new one. Yeah I'll probably just attempt to sell it myself. Its a refurb that's only a couple weeks old and in like new condition.
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Molten Llama posted:Edit: Just checked Verizon's trade-in prices. Even with the promotional rates, yeah, they're paying slightly more than half of what a 5 sells for privately.
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tonic posted:I believe the T-Mobile one is unlocked & off contract, not sure if there are any differences between it and the AT&T model though. EDIT: Aw, enabling wifi calling disables using other devices for calls. So you're stuck either getting better quality calls via wifi or being able to answer calls on your Mac or iPad. I'll have to see if my Mac even supports that, since I heard older MBAs don't. 
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tonic posted:Has the amount of RAM in the 6/6+ been confirmed? Guessing it's still 1GB, but I guess maybe we won't know until a teardown is released? Nothing has been confirmed, we got one "leaked" geekbench screenshot that says 1gb and that's it.
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FCKGW posted:Nothing has been confirmed, we got one "leaked" geekbench screenshot that says 1gb and that's it. Does Apple even release that info, or will we need to wait for an iFixit teardown or something similar?
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