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Godholio posted:Who the hell uses the parking brake anymore Is this a regional thing? I've seen this thread mentioning people not using their parking brake before. I've never heard of anybody not using it where I live (Australia) and it just seems weird. Maybe it's because Australia has a higher percentage of manual gearboxes or something. Jamus fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Godholio posted:Are you serious? This poo poo's already happening. How many people do you see actually look over their shoulder before a lane change? Who the hell uses the parking brake anymore, or checks their tire pressure or even their oil? The car will tell them when these things need to be done. Goddamn kids...!
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Sep 10, 2014 08:08
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Jamus posted:If you don't use your parking brake, how do you know when you're done driving? When I was learning manual, everyone told me to just leave the car in gear when I turn it off. I always use my parking break, but apparently everyone in my social circle doesn't bother with it
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Sep 10, 2014 08:09
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Godholio posted:Are you serious? This poo poo's already happening. How many people do you see actually look over their shoulder before a lane change? Who the hell uses the parking brake anymore, or checks their tire pressure or even their oil? The car will tell them when these things need to be done. People already never did any of those things before anyone could even dream of lights in the dash or cameras in a car. tiny gif I had laying around:  good bye rear axle
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Sep 10, 2014 08:34
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seatbelts and fuckin' airbags are stupid too because u shouldn't be crashing.  Driving is an enjoyable experience; so is training and riding a good horse. But to most people, just like it happened before, they were a necessary evil for getting around. Just because we're slowly phasing out driver interaction on the road isn't always a negative -- most people just don't give a poo poo, even when they don't have all the aids on the cars. Traffic accidents are still getting less fatal per driven mile, so that's a net plus. Maybe it's drivers actually being better, or more likely, the cars are becoming safer.  Sorry, it's not very AI to say aloud that we're likely seeing the twilight of the car as we've known it for the last 80 years, but it's probably for the better. We'll never fully get rid of the necessity for some driving skill, at least, not for a long time, but most people will never even touch the controls of their Audi RSQ's and Lexus 2054's.
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Sep 10, 2014 08:36
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razorscooter posted:People already never did any of those things before anyone could even dream of lights in the dash or cameras in a car. Psh, rear axles, who needs em. 
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Sep 10, 2014 08:37
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The Door Frame posted:When I was learning manual, everyone told me to just leave the car in gear when I turn it off. I always use my parking break, but apparently everyone in my social circle doesn't bother with it Do you not have hills or something? I'm still amazed at how some people consider using the parking brake to do a hill start in a manual car a 'trick' - it isn't a god damned trick it is how you are supposed to be taught to drive.
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Sep 10, 2014 09:15
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dissss posted:Do you not have hills or something? Chicago, brother. All flat, all the time dissss posted:I'm still amazed at how some people consider using the parking brake to do a hill start in a manual car a 'trick' - it isn't a god damned trick it is how you are supposed to be taught to drive. I killed my car almost 10 times on a hill with a stop light before I learned that the hand brake can be used in place of the real brake because I don't have 3 loving feet and the guy behind me kept freaking me out by creeping up on me. This weekend I have to fix the wiring on my girlfriend's dying 1992 525i. Again. If you guys hang out in the stupid questions thread, you might remember the awfulness, but now I'll finally have pictures for this thread
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Sep 10, 2014 09:28
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Just to talk quick abouy backup cam chat again. I think ford did it right in their trucks... screen in rearview. Basically still looking at surroundings and the screen together.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:05
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tater_salad posted:Just to talk quick abouy backup cam chat again. Those drive me loving insane. I'm already looking in the rearview mirror when I shift to reverse, and suddenly half the loving thing is really bright screen and I have to either move sideways to re-gain my viewing area, or give up and ignore the part that isn't camera feed. The mirror itself is also overall significantly dimmer than a traditional one, which sucks all day and not just when backing up.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:27
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Jamus posted:If you don't use your parking brake, how do you know when you're done driving? The only people I know who use their parking brake are the small few who drive manuals. No one else ever does. I set it all the time, but have to remind myself not to when driving someone else's car or they will make it half way down the block before taking it off. If someone else drives my car, half the time it's parked not in gear, parking brake only. The other half it's only in gear, no parking brake.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:43
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I think this topic has been done to death in the past but I still can't believe there are people out there that don't use the handbrake.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:09
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I use mine even though Oklahoma doesn't have hills. But what are the odds really that your car is going to try and roll away when you get out? 
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Sep 10, 2014 14:03
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Tactical Bonnet posted:I use mine even though Oklahoma doesn't have hills. Considering the tiny little nubbin of metal that holds the car in place when it's in "P," I'm surprised it's not more common. Seriously, the entire weight of the car is sitting on a tab that's maybe the size of a fingernail.
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Sep 10, 2014 14:53
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dissss posted:Do you not have hills or something? That's fine and dandy when it's a handbrake. When it's a lovely push through foot brake like most cars/trucks here had? Yeah right. That's a loving mechanical failure and terrible car poo poo all at once.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:10
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Preoptopus posted:Mandatory on every car sold in the US starting 2018. So they're bad because they're becoming mandatory? I don't think they should be made mandatory, but there should be some sort of rear visibility standard and if it can't be achieved with traditional mirrors then yes a backup cam is a great way to make up the rest. It's not like a camera and a small LCD actually cost much these days, and again you're only gaining information about your surroundings that you did not and could not have had before. iwentdoodie posted:That's fine and dandy when it's a handbrake. Ugh, my Ranger had four pedals. What a hateful design that was. Hand brakes are definitely the superior option.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:40
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Yeah, good luck modulating that stupid foot brake if your main brakes give out. It's gonna lock to the floor and you're going to spin out.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:48
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I teach driver's ed and I can assure you that these new gadgets like backup cameras, blindspot sensors, and other supposedly convenient gizmos on cars are making people more lazy and in turn, my students. I had to have a serious discussion about why the backup camera is not to be depended on. Not to mention there's a goddamn commercial where a driver who almost gets her entirely family killed because she's not looking out the back window, but instead at the dumb camera and they call it "a life saver". And the handbrake, ugh, cannot get it out of people's heads that it is not an "emergency brake", but a parking brake and to be used each time the car is parked. Honestly its more of the parents showing terrible habits that the kids pick up, which I know that once they're done with my class, they'll go back to having. The worst is making sure kids come to complete stops at freaking stop sign lines/crosswalks or intersections. I can go on and on about the classes alone.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:51
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Why use the handbrake when moving uphill from a dead stop when you can just rev to 4k and dump the clutch??  I have never not used the parking brake in my manual car, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone I know who drives an automatic use it in theirs. I guess people have a lot of faith in their parking pawl (as if they have any loving clue what a parking pawl is).
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Sep 10, 2014 15:51
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I don't see anything wrong with using the parking pawl UNLESS you're on an incline in which case you're an idiot if you fail to use the parking brake (and turn your wheels in).
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Sep 10, 2014 15:55
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If you're parked uphill WITH a curb, wheels go away from the curb. If there's no curb, you turn them in. If you got the curbs, put the car into neutral (or hold the clutch in) and have the car roll forward or backward a tad to have the tire bump up against the curb. Put in park, set the parking brake. Of course this fails to get through a lot of people's heads here in Illinois because we have very little hills to worry about, but I'm not taking the risk.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:05
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The Midniter posted:Why use the handbrake when moving uphill from a dead stop when you can just rev to 4k and dump the clutch?? "Well, it says park, so doesn't it activate the parking brake?" 
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Sep 10, 2014 16:07
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I can't think of a single hill in all of the Chicago metropolis that has parking on it. Granted I haven't been to every single street but it is goddamn flat out here. I cut my teeth in Seattle. 
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Sep 10, 2014 16:08
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I want something like this for my car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZ0jwTUNuI
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Sep 10, 2014 16:11
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SEKCobra posted:I want something like this for my car: And in the backing-in examples, the guy STILL cant get it right on the first try.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:21
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Jamus posted:If you don't use your parking brake, how do you know when you're done driving? Parking brake's more important with an automatic, not less. Leave your manual parked and in gear with the brake off and you need to turn the engine to get the car to move. Leave your automatic parked with the brake off and the only thing stopping it from rolling's the tiny pawl that locks the output shaft to the transmission casing. People are just dumb. I'm not sure why it's controversial that people adjust their behavior to maintain the same level of perceived risk. Give people seatbelts, they drive faster. Give them ABS, they don't leave as much space between them and the car ahead. It's why traffic calming works.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:27
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Screw using that for a backup camera, I want something like that to catch the assholes that put dings in my door.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Not to mention there's a goddamn commercial where a driver who almost gets her entirely family killed because she's not looking out the back window, but instead at the dumb camera and they call it "a life saver". The rear-cross detection with automatic braking is the "life saver" they're marketing, not the hypnotic camera display that helps you splatter your whole family across the front end of a bus. But yes, that's an offensively terrible commercial. On the other hand, it's a fantastic ad for the Better Idiot. Hmm, idiots are mowing down children in reverse. Technology solution: Mandatory backup cameras. poo poo, now those idiots are backing into traffic. Technology solution: Cross-path detection with automatic braking. I eagerly await the next development in stupidity. (I'm rooting for "speed limiting with more aggressive autobraking" as everyone starts just slamming it into reverse and gunning it. Because hey, even if I don't see it on the camera, the car will stop anyway.) Molten Llama fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 16:40
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When I park, I put the car in 2nd and use the parking brake. Never used a parking brake on an automatic unless on an incline. Also, my car has hill hold, so I don't have to use the parking brake to get going on a hill, but I'm probably ruining the clutch because I can never predict when it releases.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:41
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The Door Frame posted:"Well, it says park, so doesn't it activate the parking brake?" I would rather have this feature than most of the new nanny tech.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:43
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Godholio posted:I would rather have this feature than most of the new nanny tech. And with the rising prevalence of electric parking brakes, you'd think they could implement it fairly easily.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:50
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Molten Llama posted:The rear-cross detection with automatic braking is the "life saver" they're marketing, not the hypnotic camera display that helps you splatter your whole family across the front end of a bus. But yes, that's an offensively terrible commercial. One of the makers (I forget who but I want to say Mercedes or Acura) is running an ad bragging about all their safety features, and one of the sequences shows a mom on highway with the front end of a semi filling the entire loving windshield. Apparently the car magically brings her to a safe halt and she breathes a sigh of relief, looks at her kids in the back, and smiles. I'm sorry lady, if you're on a highway and you get in front of a semi like that, you're loving paste.
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Sep 10, 2014 16:57
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Half of my cars don't have a functional parking brake. I should probably get that remedied
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Sep 10, 2014 17:02
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The Midniter posted:Why use the handbrake when moving uphill from a dead stop when you can just rev to 4k and dump the clutch?? Or you know, just learn how to modulate clutch and throttle to start from a dead stop without rolling backwards while also not driving like an rear end in a top hat?
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Sep 10, 2014 17:34
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MomJeans420 posted:99.9% of the people who fancy park take 5 times the time to do it as compared to just pulling in, it's awful. Always nice when higher traffic parking garages have a head in parking only sign, but that doesn't always stop it. What the hell does this even mean? I back in to park 100% of the time and I'm faster at it than pulling in than most people. (Yes, yes, not everybody is AI, etc but still)
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Sep 10, 2014 17:36
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The Midniter posted:Why use the handbrake when moving uphill from a dead stop when you can just rev to 4k and dump the clutch?? My 1993 Subaru Loyale has hill hold for this kind of thing. 
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Sep 10, 2014 18:03
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Geoj posted:Or you know, just learn how to modulate clutch and throttle to start from a dead stop without rolling backwards while also not driving like an rear end in a top hat? But it's a lot more fun to drop the clutch uphill if you've got the timing right. 
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Sep 10, 2014 18:06
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Motronic posted:Anyone who can't figure that out after 5-10 tries shouldn't be towing a trailer. iwentdoodie posted:Yeah, but it's loving awesome having a dashed line from the hitch that shows you exactly where it is. Exactly. There's no line on mine, it's just a regular camera that displays in this tiny square on the review mirror. It's awesome for going from "close enough that I can manhandle it into hooking up" to "dead nuts under the tongue and all I have to do is crank up the stand".
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FormatAmerica posted:With the introduction of additional driver aids, there is a net reduction in driver awareness regardless of what you're "supposed" to do. seems like all the recent Infiniti commercials I've seen recently are trumpeting the electronic safety aids above everything else. * Daddy starts backing his SUV out of a parking spot when beep beep screech! the car stops, narrowly missing the riced-out fartypiped car which just happened to tear past behind him. Note that this appears to take place at the top level of a mostly-empty parking complex, in broad daylight. Motherfucker why are you backing up there is nothing and no one in front of you? * Momma's backing her giant SUV out of the driveway and beep beep screech! the car stops, narrowly missing the goddamn city bus which was trundling past. Momma stomps on the brake (after the car has already stopped itself) and looks sheepishly at her kids in the backseat. Motherfucker how you gonna not see a 40' long bus on a residential street? there exists one other commercial which never fails to raise my blood pressure. Guy is 'driving' along the freeway in his FX/GX/SX/whatever. Driver is clearly not paying attention to his surroundings, and the viewer is treated to the Driver's internal monologue. "did I send that email? I can't remember. I should call the office. I think I left the coffemaker on, that's gonna smell bad. I should check to see if my dry cleaning's done." Prattle prattle prattle. meanwhile the car drifts out of its lane at least twice. The first time activates the car's blind spot awareness feature, the second time it is brought back by its lane departure warning feature. ends with beep beep screech! (natch) as the car stops itself due to a sudden traffic stoppage. On the freeway. Driver blinks, shakes his head. "Whoa. Didn't see that coming. Good thing my car was looking out for me." MOTHERFUCKERRRRRRRRRRAAAAGHHGHGHH e: I see I'm not alone 
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God I loving hate that last commercial. It has some tagline like 'letting you focus on driving' which basically translates to 'letting you focus on your smartphone'
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