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aniviron posted:Hi, I'm aniviron of the same name from the MWO forums! I used to be a lot more prolific there. PoptartsNinja was kind enough to offer me an account here so I would have a better place to discuss robots of all shapes and stompinesses. Welcome to the party, and congratulations on now, through a simple forum membership and  provided by PN, being forevermore the Root Cause of All Evil in the world.Also, that comic strip is gold. Not to mention the CW Phase 2 post. It really does look like they woke up, saw what kind of hell on earth their forums and Reddit were turning in to for anything positively related to them, and then frantically scribbled those notes on a napkin to throw out there and hope people would be distracted by the "high level"  design going in to it.
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The most beautiful thing is seeing how PGI is slowly realizing just how completely they hosed things up. You can just imagine them plan out that transverse kickstarter and decide the milestones they think are reasonable...and then not only fail to achieve them but miss them by miles. Less than 100 backers, given the media presence on major gaming sites? That is a giant slap in the face from the community. Anyway, I am proud to have done my part in the goon campaign to bring down PGI. 
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Sep 11, 2014 04:36
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It was worth waiting a year or two in order to make MWO post #9. 
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Sep 11, 2014 04:38
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PGI revamped their reveal trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvIfi49P4-s
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Sep 11, 2014 04:38
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Grraarrgghh posted:PGI revamped their reveal trailer. You suck at youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvIfi49P4-s
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Sep 11, 2014 04:39
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Arquinsiel posted:'sup. Welcome to the fold. Be sure to check out the thread he mentioned and get your name on the waiting list. It's an amazing read. Yeah, you weren't kidding! It's a lot to take in. Oh, and you may/may not recognize me as abraxo_cleaner on r/mwo.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:40
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Arquinsiel posted:And it was a post worth waiting for D'aww, thank you goon sir. I just... gah. PGI could be a case study in business classes on how not to communicate with your players.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:45
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aniviron posted:Yeah, you weren't kidding! It's a lot to take in. You have such a wonderful journey ahead of you. 
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Sep 11, 2014 04:47
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Are there rules against ban evasion on reddit? New PGI accounts cropping up already.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:48
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I've decided to bookmark this thread again so I can be up to date on this hilarious debacle. I also love how the "high-level" plans are extremely rudimentary stuff that could have been revealed during alpha.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:51
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My favorite thing is how the frontier, the Fringe, is in the middle of human controlled space.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:51
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Ranzear posted:Are there rules against ban evasion on reddit? New PGI accounts cropping up already. Its reddit, so long as they post pictures of little kids in swimwear I think they'd be fine.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:51
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Nevermind, I hear Jon is an okay guy. That CW outline is something I could cook up in an hour. A lot of the numbers are pure bullshit rushjob too, and none of it is supported by assets they already have.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:52
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aniviron posted:Yeah, you weren't kidding! It's a lot to take in. Welcome to the new world. Also as others have said your basically internet hitler.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:55
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Ranzear posted:That CW outline is something I could cook up in an hour. A lot of the numbers are pure bullshit rushjob too, and none of it is supported by assets they already have. They are literally dangling keys in front of us like we're infants, hoping we'll be distracted by the noise and shininess. It's worked for them before.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:55
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*Dangle dangle, jingle jingle* I do that poo poo for fun. Anyone wanna throw a couple million dollars at that?
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Sep 11, 2014 05:01
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Bolow posted:You suck at youtube  The toilet flush SE during the PGI logo was a nice touch
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Sep 11, 2014 05:01
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Ranzear posted:*Dangle dangle, jingle jingle* Purple Team, all day.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:05
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OB_Juan posted:Purple Team, all day. The expansion teams have some snowball mechanics that might not work in the original basis, and that's why they're set aside. But yeah, they're totally the Junkions.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:08
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Ranzear posted:The expansion teams have some snowball mechanics that might not work in the original basis, and that's why they're set aside. But can I be a Purple Founder?
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Sep 11, 2014 05:12
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Ranzear posted:*Dangle dangle, jingle jingle*
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Sep 11, 2014 05:12
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OB_Juan posted:But can I be a Purple Founder? Let me get my HTML5 Tanarus re-imagining out of the way over the next few months (relevance: Slots and tonnage system, with all the interesting features and balance you might ask of MWO.) and we'll see if I don't fire up UE4 again.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:18
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Ranzear posted:Let me get my HTML5 Tanarus re-imagining out of the way over the next few months (relevance: Slots and tonnage system, with all the interesting features and balance you might ask of MWO.) and we'll see if I don't fire up UE4 again. Okay, talk to you in three months.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:20
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Ranzear posted:Let me get my HTML5 Tanarus re-imagining out of the way over the next few months (relevance: Slots and tonnage system, with all the interesting features and balance you might ask of MWO.) and we'll see if I don't fire up UE4 again. Will there be Force Wars?
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Sep 11, 2014 05:29
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Erata posted:Will there be Force Wars? You're goddamn right. Here, have a parts list to speculate on. Turret/Body/Tracks are actually mix 'n match too. Slot space is reaaaally tentative, but tonnages are about right. I'm not sure how my blocky tanks are gonna interact in Physi.js, they might not 'slide' like I want them to, so everything might become hover-tanks and the 'tracks' are more like repulsor fields, which actually sounds cooler anyway. Account creation is up if you want some lulz (framework mostly just so I know how I'm storing stuff and validating accounts), but will probably get wiped. Please don't break my server.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:36
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The really important question is will the Junkions speak TV?
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Sep 11, 2014 05:38
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Ranzear posted:You're goddamn right. Ahaha. I'll keep an ear out. That parts list is completely foreign to me though.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:43
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Looks like Paul is responding to questions in the CW feedback thread. http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/170755-community-warfare-phase-2-feedback/page__st__140
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Sep 11, 2014 05:45
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Arquinsiel posted:The really important question is will the Junkions speak TV? You didn't notice the other referential quote bullshit in the doc? ;D So it's got Junkions, Spess Mahrens, Anor Londians IN SPAAAAACE, the ED-209 brigade, Wormulons, and some thri-kreen that got too freaky in a radioactive lightning storm. Did I leave anything out?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Well that can't be quite true, because the new game is Transverse, not Wing Commander: Online. Or perhaps they felt that it would make the Star Citizen comparisons too blatant. Maybe they're telling the truth in that they got the WC IP before Roberts showed up with STar Citizen and torpedoed any hopes of making money off the concept of "Wing Commander Online". It had always been their business plan: use a nostalgic IP to make people pledge money for empty promises. But then MWO fell below their expectation so they either: 1. Blame the community for not being large enough and/or rich enough to reach expectation 2. Blame the brand for being too inclusive thus (in their mind) alienating potential fresh customers 3. A little bit or all of the above Blaming themselves for being incompetent and shittily bad at managing their own community will never be considered as a reason for failure*. So my guess is they got cold feet about Wing Commander Online but they already spend the money for the license so they hastily slapped together a bunch of crap together in the last minute. It also explains the really unfortunate choice of a name. *The irony is that they don't even have to be super competent at making games. Take Digital Extremes, maker of Warframne, for example. They're very bad at coding the game itself, each patch would break more stuff before hotfixed hastily and balance is out of whack, while the art department is top notch. Sounds familiar? So why is Warframe sitting on 10 million users while MWO struggling to make ends meet? The different is... *gasp* communication. DE is very open with their community, for good and for ill, and never snarky or showed disdain to dissenters. They patch and shuffle things around often and appear to genuinely enjoy making this game and having us play it. While PGI continues to deal with their own customers as if pulling teeth and ignore (or even stamp out) criticism. They continue to treat their customers like spoiled demanding children (which, honestly, right on the nose) but they should've known this is the side effect of a nostalgic, already established IP. Maybe it's also the reason they made the space game their own IP.
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Haha, holy poo poo, this thread is still chugging along? Wasn't it sent to neo-GBS to die a while back? Disturbing to know neither that or PGI's complete ineptitude aren't able to kill it. It's cool that some light enthusiastic trolling years ago has rendered goons some kind of boogeyman for the PGI community manager though. What happened to that pathetic Liao nerd that they had as a community moderate way back when? Did they go back on the whole 'phantom heat' thing? Was their gold robot swindle really so lucrative that they had the stones to start announce a new game before there long running work in progress was finished? So much utterly horrible nostalgia .
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Haha, holy poo poo, this thread is still chugging along? Wasn't it sent to neo-GBS to die a while back? Disturbing to know neither that or PGI's complete ineptitude aren't able to kill it. It's cool that some light enthusiastic trolling years ago has rendered goons some kind of boogeyman for the PGI community manager though. What happened to that pathetic Liao nerd that they had as a community moderate way back when? Did they go back on the whole 'phantom heat' thing? Was their gold robot swindle really so lucrative that they had the stones to start announce a new game before there long running work in progress was finished? So much utterly horrible nostalgia Someone revived it, defended MWO for a while, then all this wonderful stuff happened.
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Orv posted:Someone revived it, defended MWO for a while, then all this wonderful stuff happened. And it was worth someone bringing this thread back just for all the fun now.
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Erata posted:Ahaha. I'll keep an ear out. That parts list is completely foreign to me though. One ammo entry for the 'Launcher': mslf: cls: amo name: Impulse Missile hp: 8 wep: lnch ct: 8 slots: 1 tons: 0.5 type: mpls I had already planned for all tanks to have a jump capability (it might be really short on the heavy ones), which should go really nicely with hover tanks that also skid around a lot.
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I'm so glad this thread came back; yeah it got me to play MWO for a couple of days and waste a few hours, but holy poo poo the last 24 hours have been amazing. Niko was the reason I asked for a refund of my pheonix pack (that god drat RP code of conduct was the final straw). I knew PGI wasn't going to make a game I wanted to give them money for by late 2013, and I've thought Paul was a bit of a jackass for even longer than that, but the continued employment of Niko was just mindblowing.
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OB_Juan posted:Looks like Paul is responding to questions in the CW feedback thread. This sounds stupidly convoluted, not even like fun convoluted either. Also someone is complaining about mixed combat for planet defense, which would be understandable if PGI hadn't already thrown out their tech release timeline so early into release.
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Sep 11, 2014 06:03
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That's a nice post imo: http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/170725-regarding-reddit/page__view__findpost__p__3709733
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Neo Helbeast posted:This sounds stupidly convoluted, not even like fun convoluted either. Also someone is complaining about mixed combat for planet defense, which would be understandable if PGI hadn't already thrown out their tech release timeline so early into release. Wait, you mean the guy who came up with ghost heat came up with another complicated and unfun gameplay addition? I'm shocked beyond words.
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Ranzear posted:One ammo entry for the 'Launcher': There really was nothing like running around an arena full of stunt ramps trying to hit people with Push_Hard missiles to make them go flying and die from fall damage. That was some ridiculous fun that I'd enjoyed as a baby on an AOL connection. ... Anyway, CW's planning looks to be bizarre and it's difficult to bring myself to read Paul's posts in their entirety.
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Paul posted: