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Victorkm posted:Ant actually blamed his appearance on The Political Cesspool on Keith. I'm not sure he knew what it was beforehand. Unless Keith was also feeding him lines during his apperance, he's a liar.
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ozza posted:And who's he blaming his frequent visits to Niggermania on? Well, we know who he blames that on.
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Paul Kersey posted:Looks like Anthony saw the video: https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumia/status/509864144041160704 And the first reply within seconds is Joe Cumia. Victorkm posted:Ant actually blamed his appearance on The Political Cesspool on Keith. I'm not sure he knew what it was beforehand. It still bothers me that Keith and Brother Joe have any sort of influence or input to the show. I enjoyed the show with Jimmy the other night, but it wasn't enough to make me want to subscribe. I'd be very wary of what the show becomes when Ant doesn't have a good guest on. I was impressed that he shot down the caller trying to bring up some racial poo poo in the middle of the show, but it's worrying that at least a portion of his fan base is intent on keep bringing this poo poo up.
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Is there a TL;DR version of the Derosa/Cumia feud? I'm missing something.
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Snacksmaniac posted:Is there a TL;DR version of the Derosa/Cumia feud? I'm missing something. Summary: Both babies.
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Snacksmaniac posted:Is there a TL;DR version of the Derosa/Cumia feud? I'm missing something. Joe texts Ant and says "Hey keep your chin up" or whatever and Ant doesn't respond. Joe texts ant again a few week later, and Ant replies and says thanks. Joe sees Ant ranting more on twitter after the fact and thinks "Do I want to be friends with a guy that really feels this way?" Ant goes on The Political Cesspool which further makes Joe feel weird. Ant doesn't tell his followers to leave Joe alone for not publicly supporting Ant. Ant starts his show and tweets to various comedians that he wants them on. When he tweets Joe, he says "Hey fuckhead! Do my show!" which Joe takes as a hostile demand, instead of good-natured. Joe jokingly responds with "You know I'm 10% black, right" and then Joe gets mad that Ant didn't favorite it retweet it. Ant continues to be Ant and tweets about Ferguson so Joe unfollows him. That's about it. Joe had a valid point and decided to bury it under a pile of seeming like a spurned lover. He then started promoting a "#standwithderosa" hashtag. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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From what I gathered from listenning to the whole show was it seems Joe was really hurt because he felt Ant didn't care much about him because Joe wouldn't really further his show/career/etc. The other stuff seemed like things he kind of tacked on to it and used to justify the hurt feelings. The other thing is that the #standwithant people who harassed people who have done the show before are in fact the worst people ever. And Anthony's brother too. I thought Rogan had some good points about a show like his being more accessable and have more reach than something like Sirius these days.
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Ant probably cared because he needs content and guests for his show... Joe is a dummy. It's funny how easy Anthony seems to get through the down time on his show now by himself and how much worse it sounds with Opie and Jimmy trying to do it without a comedian/guest in there. He is one person, Opie and Jimmy are two with a few Producers willing to jump in at any point and it still sounds worse.
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DeRosa is a douche,and not a successful/funny enough comedian to be making GBS threads on the people that helped make him. I'm sure this hurts his O&J appearances as well.
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How is the level of success of any involved party relevant? They were friends, Joe got his feelings hurt and should have called Ant to hash it out instead of bash him on a podcast. How much money either of them made doesn't factor in.
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End of Life Guy posted:How is the level of success of any involved party relevant? Its relevant because its was a stupid emotional response that not only ruined his personal friendship with Anthony, but also alienated a fanbase which hurts him financially as well.
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Bubba Smith posted:Yeah that's one thing I don't get. Elsewhere fans are making GBS threads on Opie and Jimmy for having no chemistry and making a bad show, but in my opinion O&J and TACS sound the exact same as the original O&A has for years. A few days ago Opie suggested someone should splice up clips from Anthony's show and his show to make a new O&A, and I bet if you did it would be indistinguishable from any other O&A show from the last 5 years. Eh you're right (been like this the last few years) but O&J has been loving terrible. I think it was monday with florentine, Opie just dragged on and on until Jim got in. Thenprodded florentine about ketchup. Florentines literal response was " You're still obsessed with the ketchup thing, huh?". Then Opie wanted to have a ketchup taste test, live on the air. Why the gently caress would you put up with this poo poo? This is loving awful. I've listened to basement podcasts about D&D more entertaining than this. Jimmy is truly trying hard to keep this afloat while with Anthony it seemed really easy. The Robert kelly appearance was fine but that's because Jimmy was on fire but Opie having to let us peak behind the curtain and slowly explain why he has to acknowledge chip now? No one gives a gently caress what angle you took. I stopped listening because it was pretty depressing listening to three depressed guys complain about their lives and feel the audible dislike in the room years ago. Now the show gets me angry because of it's awfulness. It's like if a deer was shot in the stomach, it's screaming but no one is trying to put it out of its misery. Instead you have people saying the deer is alright and it'll be fine. No it won't. Let it loving die. Put a bullet in its head already.
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I'm not saying anything about Anthony being in the right in this whole thing, but I'm surprised anyone is on DeRosas side in the situation. The way I'm seeing it, and the way Joe himself described, was that he heard about what happened with Anthony, and instead of coming out in defense of a friend (his words, he considered Ant more than just a show host he knows) he sat back and watched the public opinion on the matter. When it shook out on the side of seeing Ant as having done wrong, he then made it publicly known he didn't support him or his actions. That's the biggest bitch move a 'friend' could ever make. When you call someone more than an acquaintance, a weight gets dropped on one side of your determining scale of wether or not your friend did wrong. The friendship tends to mean you take their word for it, and instead Joe went, "eh, let's see how everyone else reacts. Oh they don't think he handled it right? Well, I don't agree with what he said either then!" Instead of either keeping his loving mouth shut (because who gives a poo poo what you think about the matter anyway Joe?) or siding with his friend on principle and saying, yeah he's a buddy, even if I don't agree with his opinions from time to time he's still a friend." Joe just went right to the realm of popular opinion will dictate wether I continue a friendship I then put in jeopardy by being a loving girl about it. Seriously, he didn't retweet or favorite is a loving cause for hurt feelings? Man my friends must loving despise me then, since I don't even have a twitter to have the ability to retweet or favorite their brilliant 200 character thought bubbles. I know all that comes off as harsh , but I never liked DeRosa, he always struck me as Eyeore as gently caress with the depressed rear end tone to his voice, the childish and ridiculous way he's described past relationships, and his general hipster oval office attitude toward pretty much anything that he can weigh in on. The one time I remember enjoying anything coming out of his mouth, he was defending himself for trying to gently caress a former friend of his live on air, and she was just smashing him with 'you sucked on our date I never want to date you again' sentiments that just confirm to me he's a loving whiny weiner off air too. Always rubbed me the wrong way and I'm glad he's blowing up what little he garnered from being on O&A in the first place. Good riddance. The Rogan podcast, on the other hand, was way less conspiracy theory loosechanj weirdo than I expected, id listen again, kind of happy this whole bitchy slap fight turned me on to him again. Anomalous fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Joe's sensitivity is rigged like a girl, I remember when he and Bonnie had a feud that made them both cry. This will go over and we will see DeRosa on the Anthony Cumia show by the end of October.
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I just hope all of this ends with Joe complaining about his livelihood being destroyed and Burr somewhere saying, "Ah Jesus Joe"
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cochise posted:I just hope all of this ends with Joe complaining about his livelihood being destroyed and Burr somewhere saying, "Ah Jesus Joe" I just want someone to come out and say 'stop being teenagers about this and talk like adults,' but then I realize that might not happen. That said, has Sam said anything about Jocktober this year? If the show is going to go out in a blaze of glory, might as well give Terry Clifford one last smack upside the head.
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I've always thought Derosa is funny as a punchline for his comic friends, but his own stuff is self-indulgent and pretty hack. Remember a few years ago when he bragged about walking rooms because his act was an hour of him ranting about religion? None of the stuff he covered was new or insightful. He was dealing with poo poo from his relationship with his dad and qualifying it with, "You don't understand my dad is a deacon in the church!" So what. A lot of people have parents involved in church activities, it doesn't give him some unique point of view. He's a dumb guy that every once in a while has some realization about how something in the world is hosed up (religion, race, class) and thinks he's the first one to be enlightened and now he must tell everyone else. Bill Burr made fun of him for being so obvious once - "Yeah, I know. You're just now learning that dude?" Joe Derosa and Lisa Lampanelli should do a tour together where they sit on stage and cry about their hurt feelings. Fez can do the warmup.
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The Dave posted:I'm hoping that's a c/p from reddit. quote:How self important does De Rosa think he is to think people look at his “stamp of approval?” That attitude is pretty much death for a comedian. BTW, I always want to ask these social justice warriors what they think a future tolerant loving society would look like and how would they handle people like Anthony(or whoever). If racists like Anthony were frozen, Austin Powers style, and woke up in a 24th century Utopia, how would they handle them? Do they banish them from society and refuse to associate with them? That doesn't seem very tolerant, or effective. Do they punish them until they conform to the rest of society's views? Also not very tolerant, but how would they know the person has really changed their views and they're not just pretending to conform.. Or do they engage them in dialogue, understand their point of view and put in more effort into changing their point of view than us 21st century cavemen. Seriously, what do they think a tolerant society would do?
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Auron posted:Its relevant because its was a stupid emotional response that not only ruined his personal friendship with Anthony, but also alienated a fanbase which hurts him financially as well. The world of comedy doesn't begin and end with Anthony Cumia. Joe did act like a child, but his career isn't over because he fought with a radio show.
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Sep 11, 2014 17:31
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Ask Gonzo, I'm sure he has some weird death fantasy he'd like to describe.
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"So what if he went on a white supremacist podcast? Who gives a gently caress? Now you're gonna say whose podcast you can go on and speak... nobody asks the news why they go on and interview Charles Manson." --James Norton, 2014
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Bit of a weird situation really. Isn't de Rosa at least part Egyptian or something? I can understand him having a problem with Ant considering he is literally a horrible racist who is not only unrepentant but is also trying to make a new career out of it. Just the two of them sitting there doing ant's show while he rails against the ills of non whites would be uncomfortable for Joe His handling of the twitter thing is very high schoolish but all twitter fights are anyway. They are both idiots for different reasons but I side with Joe a tiny bit more.
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spudsbuckley posted:Bit of a weird situation really. Ant has more black blood in him than Joe Derosa. The moors you know.
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But Ant isn't racist! Just ask Opie!
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I know that, to the uneducated listener, Anthony's weekly racist tirades made him seem like a racist, but that doesn't match up with the guy I know. That's what's so unbelievable about this whole thing. The media didn't do their homework when they only unearthed 85 or so hours of Ant's racial ramblings. This is why I hate the press. - Opie
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End of Life Guy posted:I know that, to the uneducated listener, Anthony's weekly racist tirades made him seem like a racist, but that doesn't match up with the guy I know. That's what's so unbelievable about this whole thing. The media didn't do their homework when they only unearthed 85 or so hours of Ant's racial ramblings. This is why I hate the press.
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CrashCat posted:only your garden variety Italian with abhorrently racist views. Olive Garden Variety? 
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CrashCat posted:I feel like we need a new language to talk about racism, like some sort of number scale or something. Opie probably means he's not hood-wearing, black-dragging, cross-burning racist but only your garden variety Italian with abhorrently racist views. If the press could say Anthony is an 8th level racist and Opie could bargain them down to a 6 or something it would be so much simpler. Could we call it the Atwater Scale? "I'm not really a racist. I just focus on finding news stories that paint blacks in the worst light possible and study crime statistics to justify my belief that they're subhumans with smaller brains. IT'S A FACT! LOOK IT UP!" Morter posted:Olive Garden Variety? tss tss good one morter
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End of Life Guy posted:The world of comedy doesn't begin and end with Anthony Cumia. Joe did act like a child, but his career isn't over because he fought with a radio show. No his career was already over
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O__O posted:Joe De rosa should only be on the radio if he's arguing with Bill Burr. Pretty much this. EDIT: When did we all start putting a space in DeRosa?
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All in all they both kept it pretty civil. Ant was candid and open to criticisms about his race obsession. They pretty much made ammends and agreed to talk more in person sometime, and Ant called the twitter dogs off (which Joe still made way too big a deal about and puts way too much stock in).
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jyrka posted:I like Anthony. I liked him as an entertainer but I wouldn't want to be friends with him. Though a lot of folks on other sites think they'll get the big invite if they talk enough poo poo on everyone else, it's funny and sad.
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Morter posted:Olive Garden Variety? FAWK YEA
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