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Proper tombstoning should happen, you are running into some nasty bugs, which are unfortunately not entirely uncommon (especially keeping your place in audio; the audio backgrounding setup is very janky, so developers are hard-pressed to get it right, but some apps work a lot better than others).
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SMERSH Mouth posted:God I love playing with the tiles. So many options for spatial ordering when you've got 3 different icon sizes and a scrolling one-page app screen. Out of curiosity, are you holding down the back arrow to switch back to apps? WP8.1 actually gives you different methods to multitask, including having multiple iterations of the same apps open simultaneously. Like two different emails, messages, etc. It's very handy in certain circumstances, like composing emails while referencing data in other emails. OldPueblo fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 08:05
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Not sure what this is supposed to mean.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:12
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This morning my lumia 920 cyan decided not to use the speaker for my alarm, vibration only. Volume was 8/10 and 14/30 for apps. A restart fixed it.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:31
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Soon you'll be rearranging tiles for aesthetic and not practical reasons and searching for the perfect start screen background. I started doing this 5 hours after getting my 925. I had to switch to my Galaxy S4 today and now I feel weird with it, and I've only used my WP for like 4 days  Edit: this is my start screen background right now: 
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Sep 10, 2014 18:57
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Is there no simple phone book on these phones? Do I need to gently caress with people menus and google or outlook accounts just to add a phone number?
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Sep 10, 2014 21:18
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vigorous sodomy posted:Is there no simple phone book on these phones? Do I need to gently caress with people menus and google or outlook accounts just to add a phone number? If you type the phone number in you can save it from the dialer. Is that kinda what you're looking for?
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Sep 10, 2014 21:24
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Guillermus posted:Edit: this is my start screen background right now: 
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Sep 10, 2014 22:06
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vigorous sodomy posted:Is there no simple phone book on these phones? Do I need to gently caress with people menus and google or outlook accounts just to add a phone number? There's no local contacts, everything belongs to some sort of cloud account under the people hub. Microsoft has a decent set of resources online: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
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Sep 10, 2014 22:58
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Man that's really obnoxious.
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Sep 10, 2014 23:21
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vigorous sodomy posted:Man that's really obnoxious. Because your contacts are all in an easily editable place and if your phone or SIM card dies, your contacts are all still safe (no more Facebook "everyone text me your number, my phone died" posts)?
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Sep 10, 2014 23:38
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Not to mention the fact that you can manipulate and add to the address book from a PC or tablet much easier than pecking on the phone. Including merging duplicates, etc.
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Sep 11, 2014 00:46
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Yeah it took me a second to realize that People was my contact list, but its really pretty nice. Just need to take a minute to make sure everything is matched up. Too bad they made facebook messenger a separate app or whatever; it would be nice if I could use the service through People since a bunch of my contacts are still in iMessage withdrawal mode and I'm missing a lot of messages. And speaking of bugs, today I got to enjoy having all media playback fail until reboot. Maybe I should try the WP equivalent of setting up the iPhone as new in iTunes, because this is getting s little ridiculous.
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Sep 11, 2014 01:17
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iMessage and stable apps are the two things I miss from iOS. The forum app is particularly frustrating for force-closing. Certain threads at random will crash it out.
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Sep 11, 2014 01:26
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:The forum app is particularly frustrating for force-closing. Certain threads at random will crash it out. Which ones? If you tell me, I can load them up, see what's causing them to crash, and patch it up  .
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Sep 11, 2014 01:35
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I got a treasure tag on sale a week ago and it's pretty cool. Hasn't really impacted my battery life so far and it's nice knowing I'll be able to find my keys.  Edit: The page before this one likes to crash in your awful app
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Sep 11, 2014 01:41
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Drastic Actions posted:Which ones? I often get a crash while auto loading the bookmarks at startup, but then next startup will be fine
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Edit: The page before this one likes to crash in your awful app   It loaded for me. I've been using my iPhone as my daily driver, so I don't see bugs like this. quote:I often get a crash while auto loading the bookmarks at startup, but then next startup will be fine That's a 404 error when loading the bookmarks page. I have zero idea why it happens only some of the time. My app, quite frankly, sucks at handling 404s (in that, 90% of the time I don't handle them), so it crashes. From what I can tell when I debugged it awhile back, I can only get it to happen somewhat consistently when on 3g/LTE, and only on startup. I can handle the 404 better (by just telling you it errors rather than crashing) but I don't know why it's 404ing at all. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 01:49
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You should probably specify which forum app you're using.
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Sep 11, 2014 01:56
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1020 here with zero crashes. Since the update, tho, the unread count on bookmarked threads no longer adjusts when I return to bookmarks, forcing me to hit refresh. Other than that, great and getting better.
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The Lord Bude posted:You should probably specify which forum app you're using. Oh that's true. I just assume it's mine at this point. If it's "Awful.", then I don't know as I never use that. But Mecca-Benghazi is using my app, and I have seen in crash in threads before, but never while I'm debugging or wanting to have it happen. If you see the thread and THEN in crashes, then it's probably a Javascript error. But in order to fix it, I need to see what it is and have it happen consistently. I can just consume all of those, since it should not affect seeing the thread, but that's just lame. Then again, it's an Awful Forum Reader, so .EDIT: I'll work on it this weekend and try and add proper error handling to the app. I'll try and pull what Awful. does and let you know of the error and (maybe) give you some way of letting me know. I feel bad, because I don't really use Windows Phone full time anymore, and there are no other developers here working on it besides myself. I at least want it to be stable, especially when it affects other people besides myself. soapgish posted:1020 here with zero crashes. Since the update, tho, the unread count on bookmarked threads no longer adjusts when I return to bookmarks, forcing me to hit refresh. Other than that, great and getting better. If you turn on "Auto-Refresh Bookmarks" in the options menu, it should update that counter. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 02:04
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Drastic Actions posted:If you turn on "Auto-Refresh Bookmarks" in the options menu, it should update that counter. It was on. And I've tried off-on, restarting, all that.
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Sep 11, 2014 04:00
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Drastic Actions posted:If you tell me, I can load them up, see what's causing them to crash, and patch it up Please don't ask that of users! You should catch the exception yourself and invite the user to send a crash report. I normally do this by having an exception-handler, in each of my top-level methods and event-handlers that are invoked by the system. I wrote some stuff about catching exceptions and reporting them to the user: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/lucian/archive/2014/08/09/mr-flakey-helps-you-write-more-robust-async-code.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/lucian/archive/2014/08/25/exception-stacktraceex-better-exception-stacktrace-for-async-code.aspx And also on this page, the section "Telemetry and debugging" http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vbteam/archive/2014/06/15/vb-universal-app-part-3-for-the-end-user-roaming-settings-and-in-app-purchases.aspx You should also consider using App Insights with your app. That will tell you other things like how many people are using it and how much. You can choose what other things to instrument. PS. I find your app crashing about 50% on startup, and then about 30% of my forum-reading sessions end because the app crashes. Also whenever the forums are down it crashes on startup. You mentioned earlier that it often relates to 404 or other network exceptions, in which case you should definitely try my "Mr Flakey" approach or similar. ljw1004 fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 05:30
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:iMessage and stable apps are the two things I miss from iOS. If it helps, I've found the forums to be perfectly readable in the built-in browser...
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ljw1004 posted:Please don't ask that of users! You're 100% right, I should not. It's because I'm lazy and did not set up much error handling. The web manager does have a try/catch when all web requests are called, but the catch is a bit todo saying "Do something with this in the future", and then continues on its merry way. Which then leads to null forum objects, which blows everything up. I know what's going on, but I'm not handling it in any way. So this weekend I'll see if I can actually spend some time and set up a proper error manager and do it right. Now, my newer programs do have some from of error management (in that, toast notifications are sent when errors occur, but it does not offer to send the reports to me), but still that's not enough really. This is, again, what happens when you bail on the platform and don't use your app enough .
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Got to say, the only time I've ever had drastic's app crash was when the forum was down.
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SMERSH Mouth posted:And speaking of bugs, today I got to enjoy having all media playback fail until reboot. Maybe I should try the WP equivalent of setting up the iPhone as new in iTunes, because this is getting s little ridiculous. Bear in mind I'm running dev preview 8.1 update 1, did that first thing when I got my 635.
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Drastic Actions posted:This is, again, what happens when you bail on the platform and don't use your app enough There's no excuse to bail when it runs on Windows 8 as well  Pretty so-so success/failure rate, but try tossing it on bitbucket or such, simpler stuff like doing a retry on loading bookmarks is something it is not that unlikely you can get a hand with.
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I'm using Drastic's app (awful) and most of the user names are "awful poster" instead of the proper ones. I have to recognize users by avatars 
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Guillermus posted:I'm using Drastic's app (awful) and most of the user names are "awful poster" instead of the proper ones. I have to recognize users by avatars That's Bootleg Robots app, not mine. Mine is "Awful Forums Reader" and is for Windows Phone 8.1. I did send him a patch to fix his bug though, but he's not around much anymore so he never accepted it I think. Cybernetic Vermin posted:There's no excuse to bail when it runs on Windows 8 as well I have been using my Macbook Air and iPad more often, so... It's been on GitHub since the beginning. Also, I know it's very easy to just put a try/catch on that initial bookmark load and do some simple error handling for that specific issue, my point was that I need to actually handle errors better by setting up an error/debug manager so that it's done somewhat correctly in more places. Also to ljw1004, those posts are extremely useful, so thanks for helping out .
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 Submitted a new version which should hopefully stop the app crashing on startup. I started to implement a basic error manager to handle these errors the app may generate. It's a start at least. Hopefully this helps stop those random crashes some of you are having. EDIT: And it's in. It should be up in a few hours. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 16:36
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Love this one. Also thanks Drastic, using your app now and works perfectly
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I startes using the wp awful app when it first came out. To be honest I didn't like it and never bothered with it again. I reinstalled it when I got my 930 due to the rave reviews in this thread and I have to say wow! Massive improvement. I use this all the time now rather than accessing through the I.e. Great job.
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Man, the difference in web browsing on the 635 and a 1gig phone like the 920 seems pretty noticable. Seems like switching tabs always causes a refresh on the 635, I don't recall running into that with the 920 at all. How's web browsing one of the 2GB RAM phones?
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On the 1020, I get occasional refreshes but I think one of those GB is for the camera only. And I realize this applies to no one else itt but swyping in Arabic is cool as hell.
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Maneki Neko posted:Man, the difference in web browsing on the 635 and a 1gig phone like the 920 seems pretty noticable. Seems like switching tabs always causes a refresh on the 635, I don't recall running into that with the 920 at all. As long as you have a good net connection, the 930 is as pretty faultless as it gets. Very nice, smooth and fast. This also applies to all apps that use the net. Such a smoother experience.
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521 poo poo the bed again but Nokia service is pretty awesome. No arguments or trying to make me do hard resets after I'd already done, and they are paying shipping.
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Can Microsoft please throw a poo poo ton of money at HBO and get us a good HBO Go app?
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Has anyone had hands on experience and want to tell me if I should get a One on an Icon? I'm on Verizon, so those are my options. So far as I can tell, the nice things about the One are the faster processor (how much of a difference does that make?), the slightly bigger battery, expandable memory and nifty stuff like the IR blaster, the dot cases and the metal finish. But the Icon has a way better camera, an apparently better screen, the better Nokia apps (?), and nifty wireless charging. Also, does anyone know if Verizon has gotten better at pushing updates? My current phone is a Trophy that I got (I think) after 7.8 came out but I got it with 7.5 and it's never updated. I don't want to get stuck with 8 on an Icon if I go that way. Or is that an HTC issue and a reason to go with the Icon?
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