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I can't believe it's not Halo + Diablo + Minecraft + Mass Effect + Civilization + Planescape Torment + Quake 2
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a foolish pianist posted:There's a lot of story stuff, but it's more like Dark Souls, where piecing together the story is the player's job, rather than a bunch of minimovies laying out the story every now and again to break up the action. I do absolutely love that about the Souls games, but I don't normally expect a deeply interwoven experience between web and game (with healthy teases from the latter) from From like I do with Bungie. I'll keep pushing on if Venus offers more. Thanks for that. Stux posted:Uh you can explore freely in patrol, the areas are huge and filled with cool stuff and have areas guarded by ridiculous elites etc to sneak past/come back for later. The moon by itself is cool, it's hollowed out and pretty large from what I've ran about in so far. Uh, it's an empty, lifeless world filled with the same mobs in the same places as any other mission in the game, and that doesn't appeal to me as someone who would rather patrol outside of the same funnels and arenas as the story bits. You can see other stuff, you just can't go down there and are forced to respawn. To recall the Souls analogy, you can more or less go everywhere you can see in those games, and the invisible walls/death pits in Destiny feel oddly last-gen. I'm not discounting that there isn't some depth in the levels, just that the MMO comparison is hilariously wrong. This is an FPS that mixes other people into your same levels, not one that lets you find them by exploring off the beaten path. In this era of huge, open worlds, Destiny is still a rather boxed-in experience. I'll try exploring the Moon more, though, thanks for the heads-up.
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Sep 12, 2014 04:08
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SamBishop posted:I do absolutely love that about the Souls games, but I don't normally expect a deeply interwoven experience between web and game (with healthy teases from the latter) from From like I do with Bungie. I'll keep pushing on if Venus offers more. Thanks for that. No, there are lots of areas even on earth that are not used in any missions and are purely there to explore. No one is saying "it is an MMO", it has features borrowed from MMOs. It was never marketed as a giant free roam MMO with thousands of people in each area, its only ever been worlds shared between a number of players. Again though you can go off the beaten path on every planet and find stuff. Its not as open as an actual MMO but its more open than diablo 3 for example. You are expecting something the game isn't and never claimed to be, its a diablo 3 style game at its heart with some light open world and social features. Its not meant to be as explorable as the Souls series. With the story, why were you expecting halo 2.0? Yes its sci fi again, but they wanted to move away from halo for a reason and I doubt that the story considerations aren't intentional.
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Sep 12, 2014 04:14
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There is a lot of lore but they don't spoon feed it to you. Read the grimoires they give you and learn about things. Destiny is loving great!
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Sep 12, 2014 04:18
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Stux posted:No, there are lots of areas even on earth that are not used in any missions and are purely there to explore. Not at all. I know it isn't an MMO, I was mentioning that as a counter to those that, for some weird reason, thought it might be (seriously, I had to constantly explain to friends that it was multiplayer, and always-online, but it wasn't an MMO). I realize there are areas that you can venture into (just as you can during any mission) that aren't scaled to your level, but it's the same environment even when you're free to roam and effectively pick up one-off missions that are repeated over and over again from beacons. There's absolutely room to explore, but given the limited breadth of the world, I just expected that there would be more, well, story to scour. Maybe that will change on other planets, but otherwise they want you to go back to the same levels with slightly different goals. For all the time spent on the game, the actual level of exploration is kept painfully low. Vintersorg posted:There is a lot of lore but they don't spoon feed it to you. Read the grimoires they give you and learn about things. I do want to be clear here: if other people are loving Destiny, that's awesome, and I'm not here to rain on their parade. I'm just pointing out what I dislike about the game I've played so far. Can someone point me to where in the game I can read all those awesome grimoire pickups? Oh wait, I can't? Because...? SamBishop fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 04:18
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SamBishop posted:It's also just a resolution bump on top of a game we could have seen last gen. It's cross-gen, and an in-house effort to make a game for four platforms, so I'm willing to cut them some slack, but I just don't get any of the praise for the visuals. This doesn't anything like what a next-gen game should. The lighting, the textures, the animation, the effects. It feels squarely like a PS3/360 game up-ressed, which it largely is. Maybe the sequel in a few years that ditches the last-gen systems will improve it, but I honestly don't see the appeal. Great skyboxes, boring, lifeless environments. i think the praise for the visuals stems from enjoyment of the art direction more than technical prowess such as how many polys a model has etc. kinda like how people thought mario galaxy looked amazing even though there were a huge amount of games that were technically superior at the time. destiny is pretty poor from a graphical standpoint but the art direction and skyboxes create some really nice environments imo. you can see how they've evolved from halo reach as well where they started branching out into bigger environments and now they've taken that even further
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Sep 12, 2014 04:38
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Organs posted:i think the praise for the visuals stems from enjoyment of the art direction more than technical prowess such as how many polys a model has etc. kinda like how people thought mario galaxy looked amazing even though there were a huge amount of games that were technically superior at the time. destiny is pretty poor from a graphical standpoint but the art direction and skyboxes create some really nice environments imo. you can see how they've evolved from halo reach as well where they started branching out into bigger environments and now they've taken that even further That's actually a good point. I thought Mario Galaxy looked unbelievable given the tech, but others didn't see it. I'm just on the flip side of that, I guess. Maybe I need to stop thinking all next-gen games should have some form of photo-realism (lighting, models, animation). This is the first gen where I think some one of those might actually happen. I'll try to calm that, thanks for the the heads-up.
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Sep 12, 2014 04:57
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This is the first time I've seen SamBishop as the person who ISN'T praising a game. I really didn't like the beta too much, but I'm starting to waver on the full version reading all these people defending Destiny. I suppose it has to at least a few nights from the Redbox.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:07
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Oxxidation posted:The Halo series had what was simultaneously the most impenetrable and the most boring plot of any game I've played. I doubt there's going to be any gold hidden in them thar hills. Not going to lie, I found Halo 2's narrative oddly compelling. Its just such an odd game to me.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:11
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Man Diablo 3 gets a lot cooler once you read up on how to use gems properly and or use the stash chest to give your lower level character some sweet high value gems.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:12
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Destiny has that same weird thing that Halo had where I want to explore the map even though I know there is nothing there. I'm jumping around trying to go places I know I'm not allowed and for some reason enjoying it. I don't even do this in Elder Scrolls games but for some reason I do it in Bungie games.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:17
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Stux posted:No one is saying "it is an MMO", Haha I beg to differ. That was a standard line in the Destiny thread for a few pages at least.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:19
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SamBishop posted:See, that's probably why I just don't get it. Diablo III is the exact same sense of emptiness in terms of gameplay, but at least Blizzard goes overboard with optional (and sometimes not) exposition. They are at least building out this world that you're walking into, and had you not played the games in the past, you'd at least have a sense of what they're trying to do. Yes, but all of Diablo 3's writing was atrocious. Like atrociously awful and got in the way and made me hate it every time the dialogue started. For all of Destiny's lame inane barely-there plot, it's infinitely superior to bad obtrusive plot.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:23
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I don't believe that I beat Destiny. Stomped out the Vex but, really, c'mon that ending just, fuicking, gently caress. I can't believe it. It's so drat short and the plot just feels there. I'm speechless.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:29
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neetengie posted:I don't believe that I beat Destiny. Stomped out the Vex but, really, c'mon that ending just, fuicking, gently caress. I can't believe it. It's so drat short and the plot just feels there. The plot is entirely perfunctory. Most of the game doesn't even open up until you hit 20. (Although mercifully this is trimmed on subsequent characters who get access to poo poo earlier than on your first time through.) This isn't a "you shouldn't judge it" thing, I'm just saying that finishing the story isn't really the same as completing the game.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:32
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ImpAtom posted:The plot is entirely perfunctory. Most of the game doesn't even open up until you hit 20. (Although mercifully this is trimmed on subsequent characters who get access to poo poo earlier than on your first time through.) This isn't a "you shouldn't judge it" thing, I'm just saying that finishing the story isn't really the same as completing the game.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:39
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neetengie posted:I just really like good stories in muh games. That's why I mostly stick to RPGs I guess. Didn't expect much from this game but it still surprised me. Yeah, I can agree with that. Destiny's plot (or lack thereof) is really bewildering.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:41
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I guess its the complete opposite of PSO2, which makes you do an hour or two worth of grinding stuff between each tiny bit of story stuff, such that I am 120 hours in and not a third of the way through it yet (given that I spent a lot of time completely ignoring it anyway). I still can't tell how Warframe is in that respect; I have hardly gotten anywhere in it.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:41
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To me Destiny feels like they ran out of time, panicked and had to release something. I'm finding it really fun but the entire presentation is so incompetent it's kind of mind-boggling.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:43
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I think I need to post a retraction. Earlier in this thread I may have insinuated that a certain Bungie game did not have explodable containers. After playing past the first planet I can confirm that it does indeed have things that you shoot and they blow up and I can officially say that it is not Pure Garbage but is in fact a good and fun game.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:47
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destiny has so many different things going on they had to gate all the content behind levels to keep players from getting overloaded. They went too far though and turned it into a big slow turd for the first couple days you play.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:48
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Fellatio del Toro posted:I think I need to post a retraction. It has exploding cubes. That is some bullshit right there.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:51
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Real hurthling! posted:destiny has so many different things going on they had to gate all the content behind levels to keep players from getting overloaded. They went too far though and turned it into a big slow turd for the first couple days you play. And yet you're exposed to the many currencies it has if you do the least bit of vendor browsing.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:52
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Rinkles posted:The story is the one thing I wouldn't bring up when recommending First Light. It was tolerable at best (imo ofc). I was really disappointed that it was a prequel, honestly, because we already had the Cliff's Notes version of Fetch's past and while I enjoyed her as a character, I didn't really give a poo poo about the fleshing out that they did. I much would have rather had an Infamous 1.5 using her perspective to give us a glimpse of the future.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:59
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What is the best looking good game in PS4? Destiny looks pretty good to me, but I could see how it would be limited in scale for example because of stupid last gen and it's stupid stupid memory constraints.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:05
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fozzy fosbourne posted:What is the best looking good game in PS4? Destiny looks pretty good to me, but I could see how it would be limited in scale for example because of stupid last gen and it's stupid stupid memory constraints. Probably Infamous. Maybe Drive Club when it hits. There are no real visual wowing next-gen games yet really.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:07
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fozzy fosbourne posted:What is the best looking good game in PS4? Destiny looks pretty good to me, but I could see how it would be limited in scale for example because of stupid last gen and it's stupid stupid memory constraints. I played the Destiny alpha and beta and thought certain parts of that game looked great, but overall it didn't look as good as either of those 2 titles.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:08
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How do I enable sidetone on my gold headset? Cycling through the modes with the mute button makes no difference. Is there an OS setting I'm missing?
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Sep 12, 2014 06:11
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:MGS5 Ground Zeroes or Infamous Second Son, maybe? Its gotta be Infamous. Ground Zeroes becomes a lot less impressive the more you play and closer you look at it. poo poo will materialize and dematerialize in front of you.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:13
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blackguy32 posted:Its gotta be Infamous. Ground Zeroes becomes a lot less impressive the more you play and closer you look at it. poo poo will materialize and dematerialize in front of you.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:15
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blackguy32 posted:Its gotta be Infamous. Ground Zeroes becomes a lot less impressive the more you play and closer you look at it. poo poo will materialize and dematerialize in front of you. Never mind the polycount on most objects.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:What is the best looking good game in PS4? Destiny looks pretty good to me, but I could see how it would be limited in scale for example because of stupid last gen and it's stupid stupid memory constraints. P.T.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:17
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I've heard that a few times in this thread but I don't remember ever seeing that happen when I played it, and I played it for like 15 hours or so. Its really noticeable when you zoom in with binoculars and when people are driving around. You start to see vegetation disappear and boxes appear and stuff like that.
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Dork457 posted:P.T.
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what does everyone think of destiny? Ive watched videos but im not sure if i want to buy it or not.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:22
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justincredible posted:what does everyone think of destiny? Ive watched videos but im not sure if i want to buy it or not. edit: not entirely I guess, but the big ones haven't done their thing yet. When Bungie or Activision say "jump", most game review sites say "ok". Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 06:27
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ImpAtom posted:Probably Infamous. Maybe Drive Club when it hits. There are no real visual wowing next-gen games yet really. I thought Killzone looked really good in places. Game itself is meh, but visuals rocked on a few initial levels.
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justincredible posted:what does everyone think of destiny? Ive watched videos but im not sure if i want to buy it or not.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:35
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Samurai Sanders posted:Also, I guess reviews are still embargoed (not that I'm expecting to get much out of them). I can't remember a game that has had reviews embargoed this far into its release. Reviews are not embargoed. Reviewers couldn't start the game until the servers were up so it is being slower for most reviewers.
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justincredible posted:what does everyone think of destiny? Ive watched videos but im not sure if i want to buy it or not. I've played about 10 hours so far (level 16 and I just got to Venus) and I like it. I find the shooting/combat really fun, I like the weird MMO-ish stuff even though I mostly hate MMOs, the competitive multiplayer is good (if nothing groundbreaking), and I think it looks and sounds really good. I also like the fact that loot isn't super common (though playing missions on Hard seems to give a pretty big boost to the amount/quality of loot), since the constant piles of loot in Diablo 3 just make me tired. Having said all that I think most of the criticism of the game is reasonable and justified, but it's really a personal preference thing whether or not those issues are enough to keep the game from being fun. I do think some people are being let down more by their expectations rather than the game itself though.
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