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Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Rorahusky posted:

Back before Enemy Within came out, that Muton used to be a Chryssalid. Fun times running into one of those on your first Council Mission.

It's still one on Easy/Normal, and I stand by a Muton being more threatening. Chryssalids have less health and where and when it appears in the mission actually makes it pretty easy to just waste as soon as it appears without it ever taking an action.

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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

As a Mech Zhang is actually supremely useful, he's got a high aim stat and he turns into a Heavy subclass of mech, which is the most useful in my opinion, as its special ability is making the nearest visible alien have -20 aim.

That said, his high willpower will also make him very useful for something ELSE later on too...

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
How much can you customise a MEC to look like a large angry panda bear as a joke?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Zhang has been the MVP in my group and a personal favorite.

His motivation was: "Seriously guys, we're getting invaded and you're having a bidding war? gently caress you all."

Leave him as is, every motley crew need the sane badass to be baffled by the absurdity of it all.

Quiet Python
Nov 8, 2011
I vote to leave Zhang the badass normal of this crew.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Quiet Python posted:

I vote to leave Zhang the badass normal of this crew.
Same.

Well, normal for now. Heh.

berryjon
May 30, 2011

I have an invasion to go to.
Normal Zhang!

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Zhang for pure humanity, he's too smooth to get meld spilled on him. Though if he gets a critical injury, chop him up.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Chalk me up as another vote for normal Zhang.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Yeah, leave him be. Gene-mods if anything. Leave his hair color as-is, too, and have everyone else be immensely jealous.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Archenteron posted:

How much can you customise a MEC to look like a large angry panda bear as a joke?

The best I could find was

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
Normal!

Silver Spooner
Jun 10, 2013
I don't know much about Zhang, but this LP has recently got me back into playing XCOM. I think I'm gonna join the chorus of Badass Normal.

MightyPretenders
Feb 21, 2014

Normal for now. We'll see what makes sense later.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Don't know anything about this game other than what the LP is saying, but chopping up and attaching hyper advanced irreplaceable tech to a double agent you literally just met seems like a winning move to me. Go for mecha-triad dude.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
I vote normal until he gets a promotion or two under his belt.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

SwissArmyDruid posted:

I vote normal until he gets a promotion or two under his belt.

Well he starts off as a Lieutenant.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I vote normal. Anyone got pics of mecha Zhang?

End game spoilers: Zhang can get PSI powers?

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib
Yes.

I didn't know the Friends in Low Places Muton has a regular plasma rifle instead of an LPR. They don't usually get those until June.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

SSNeoman posted:

I vote normal. Anyone got pics of mecha Zhang?

End game spoilers: Zhang can get PSI powers?

Not only can he, I'm pretty sure he's basically guaranteed to have them.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Feinne posted:

Not only can he, I'm pretty sure he's basically guaranteed to have them.

My version of Zhang didn't, the only psionic guy I had was as Assault I'd had since the beginning of the game. Was that a change added in Enemy Within?

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
MEC him.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Keeping him a normie sounds best. The grizzled veteran always plays his part best when he's a little removed from the craziest action.

And not only can Zhang do the late-game thing, but he can also do the end-game thing. I don't really get the hate for him myself; his characterization is completely limited to the one mission we just saw (and unique action lines, oh boy) and it's easy enough to just bury him on the deployment chart if you want.

ReturnOfFable
Oct 9, 2012

No tears, only dreams.
Voting for Zhang to be normal. He's got the skills to be successful without undergoing genetic modification or mech suit surgery.

Plus, I don't know, something about Zhang makes it seem like he would be opposed to either one. He's spent years as a Triad, relying on his own skills to survive. I don't think he would want to tarnish the success he's had by during into some super solider. He'd like to kick rear end as a regular dude to prove a point.

LEGO Genetics
Oct 8, 2013

She growls as she storms the stadium
A villain mean and rough
And the cops all shake and quiver and quake
as she stabs them with her cuffs
Normal Zhang, future Psy Trooper later

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Normal zhang.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

If only there was a pistol-specialist class (well, beyond snipers with Gunslinger). I'd have Zhang be that, spouting off lines from John Woo movies as he guns down Sectoids...

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Let's make Zhang a genetrooper!

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
I vote Normal Zhang as well.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

kaosdrachen
Aug 15, 2011
Gonna throw my vote with the Badass Normal Zhang crowd here.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Keep him as is for now. If he messes up, he's of Triad origins. We just cut off a bit more than a finger.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Speedball posted:

Well he starts off as a Lieutenant.

I know that, I mean on top of that, so you can see how his stats go. You did pick the random stat growth option, right?

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
Normal Zhang for now.

On Chryssalid chat:

I hated Terror from the Deep's Tentaculats so much more, since they could fly (underwater).

Cosmic Afro
May 23, 2011
Don't chop Zhang's limbs off, unless he get critically wounded.

Zhang gets a lot of hate, somehow. I liked the guy, he's always been very solid in my runs!

Well, in the runs he don't get killed by a freak accident, like a panicking rookie or two mutons throwing grenades in his face while wounded. In three out of five games that were Ironman Impossible, he's never survived ...certain events following this mission, always due to some freak accident.

I think he's cursed, for me.

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Simply on the basis that him and Eva are the only two heavies you have at the moment, I'd be tempted to keep him normal for now.

Of course, if he does get critically wounded...

Lynneth
Sep 13, 2011
I vote for keeping him Badass Normal, even if he does get critical wounds.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

AJ_Impy posted:

Keep him as is for now. If he messes up, he's of Triad origins. We just cut off a bit more than a finger.

That's the Yakuza who do the finger cutting thing, not the Triads...

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

GhostStalker posted:

That's the Yakuza who do the finger cutting thing, not the Triads...

And? We're here to fight aliens, not ponder the niceties of east Asian crime syndicates. We've got bigger gaijin, or gweilu as the case may be, to worry about.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

AJ_Impy posted:

And? We're here to fight aliens, not ponder the niceties of east Asian crime syndicates. We've got bigger gaijin, or gweilu as the case may be, to worry about.

Please, it's gwailo. Zhang is from Hong Kong, and therefore speaking Cantonese.

Also, I don't think Mandarin speakers actually use gweiliu as an insult. Laowai, maybe.

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Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012

Speedball posted:

If only there was a pistol-specialist class (well, beyond snipers with Gunslinger). I'd have Zhang be that, spouting off lines from John Woo movies as he guns down Sectoids...

What about covert operatives?

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