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Welp, it was fun while it lasted! Thanks for all the fish, Mojang & Notch <3 No idea how I will vent my  in future though. Hopefully the PC version and the modding scene won't get completely get annihilated by the acquisition.Could not stop working on the cathedral yet, so I made kind of a variation with more belltowers and whistles.  More screenies.
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MikeJF posted:If nothing else, they could probably expand the XBLA Minecraft codebase, which is apparently from a programming perspective Minecraft 1 but put together properly. Actually if they do this and bring the XBLA texture packs to PC Minecraft, that'd be great, since those packs are really, really good.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:41
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Who knows, maybe they'll go balls-deep and build an Everquest Landmark competitor as Minecraft 2.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:43
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Microsoft would be smart to buy up 4J Studios also and combine Mojang and 4J the way they ported Minecraft is probably one of the best PC to Console ports I've ever seen, particularly with two very very different code bases.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:43
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Disappointing Pie posted:It happened. That's what I was thinking. It essentially boils down to 'We have no idea what's going to happen with regards to anything but I'm sure it'll all work out fine'  I really don't get these people.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:46
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Disappointing Pie posted:Uhhh, so did anyone read the contracts before they signed, there is a poo poo ton of I don't know what's going to happen in there. There's a poo poo-ton of I don't know because the contracts are that microsoft owns their poo poo. Microsoft can do anything they want with it. However, in microsoft's press release: quote:Microsoft expects the acquisition to be break-even in FY15 on a GAAP basis.
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It seems like the most likely scenario is that Minecraft "Classic" development will cease, either immediately or with 1.9, and then MS will put out Minecraft 2. Then there are two possibilities: 1) MS doesn't do anything to stop people from playing the original game. 2) They do, but are ultimately unsuccessful because people will find a way to run it. Even if the first one occurs, and MS gives Mojang's servers an expiration date, someone will probably develop a utility that mimics the responses of the current Mojang servers and then with a simple edit of your hosts file you'll be able to play MC Classic like nothing happened. (edit: and an installer that changes the hosts file for people who don't know how to do it themselves) What I'm saying is, make MultiMC profiles for the versions you care about ASAP.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:49
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Well I guess I'd best start looking for the next minecraft then, rip in peace mojang. Also notch is a buttlord.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:54
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What cracks me up most about Notch's post is that he nearly promises to drop any project immediately if it begins to "gain traction." Really? Is there anything out there that comes close to capturing the look and feel of Minecraft? Perhaps one of the major modding packs will break off and make a clone. a helpful bear fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 15:55
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I'm really not able to have sympathy for the richest Swede in the universe bloo blooing about the pressure of his lack of need to work.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:56
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Fortis posted:It seems like the most likely scenario is that Minecraft "Classic" development will cease, either immediately or with 1.9, and then MS will put out Minecraft 2. Then there are two possibilities: I doubt the timing of the announcement was coincidental. Very likely 1.8 was the final version of Minecraft. OwlFancier posted:That's what I was thinking. It essentially boils down to 'We have no idea what's going to happen with regards to anything but I'm sure it'll all work out fine' What's not to get? Notch wants to never have to think about Minecraft again for the rest of his life and couldn't care less what happens to it after that. The only involvement Notch likely had with that little Q&A that bears his name and carries on about how important the community is to him is looking it over and thumbs-upping it after Microsoft's PR/legal team wrote it.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:57
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Fortis posted:It seems like the most likely scenario is that Minecraft "Classic" development will cease, either immediately or with 1.9, and then MS will put out Minecraft 2. Then there are two possibilities: This is the worst case scenario, for distribution/development to have to resort to piracy or a state of questionable legality would be a death sentence for the original game. The Minecraft modding community is pretty talented. Minetest needs a lot of polish but serves as a pretty good safety net right now. babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 15:57
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Haha what a loving hypocrite considering his whole shitfest regarding the Oculus buyout. What a fat loving hypocrite.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:58
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Eric the Mauve posted:What's not to get? Notch wants to never have to think about Minecraft again for the rest of his life and couldn't care less what happens to it after that. I don't get how if that's the issue, he had to sell the company. If he's the majority shareholder he could literally just give his shares to the rest of the people who work there and give himself a big payoff bonus. If it isn't about the money, he doesn't have to sell the company for 2.5 billion dollars and probably ruin the product for the millions of people who own it who he supposedly 'loves'. I mean, I entirely believe it's a load of bollocks but one could at least make a more credible attempt at bullshitting.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:59
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OwlFancier posted:I don't get how if that's the issue, he had to sell the company. It's not of course. Once Notch made up his mind that he was over Minecraft, it was just a matter of shopping around for the highest bidder, same as you or I would. I'd expect that while 1.8 is probably the last official release, Microsoft certainly will be releasing various DLC and microtransactions for it to make some money while they're developing Minecraft 2 (which they'll doubtless aim to release just before Christmas shopping season 2015). Once Minecraft 2 is out, Fortis's scenario (Microsoft does everything it can to prevent people from playing Minecraft 1) is fairly likely. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 16:00
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Knifegrab posted:Haha what a loving hypocrite considering his whole shitfest regarding the Oculus buyout. What a fat loving hypocrite. Also, a billionaire.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:01
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Smoking_Dragon posted:Also, a billionaire. Yup, I love how much people are lapping up his pity party. "I am leaving for my own sanity, not for money." *Leaves immediately after buyout, not before*.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:02
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OwlFancier posted:I don't get how if that's the issue, he had to sell the company. Yeah, I'd be suprised if he couldn't hand over the company internally for some reason. He saw the dollar signs and decided staying indie pure wasn't worth it. Which wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't such a hypocrite. At least Oculus sold so they could keep development and not to just make the biggest paycheck of their life.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:03
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Apparently Sweden has a 79% tax rate on these kinds of things, so no Notch probably isn't a billionaire, but Sweden is making bank!
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Sep 15, 2014 16:05
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Let's try to be fair, though: Notch has spent the last five years taking a lot of poo poo from eight-year-olds and/or sperglords, pretty much all day every day. If in fact he's come to loathe Minecraft and wants to watch it burn, I can't blame him. Now if that, rather than money, were his primary motivation, he'd have sold it to EA. But Microsoft is the second-best bet to ruin the franchise and bid more, so.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:05
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Knifegrab posted:Haha what a loving hypocrite considering his whole shitfest regarding the Oculus buyout. What a fat loving hypocrite. lol like you wouldn't do the same for 2.5 BILLION dollars. I'm sure he'll be really upset a few people on the internet think he's a hypocrite when he's on his driving a golden rocketcar around his private island.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:06
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's not of course. Once Notch made up his mind that he was over Minecraft, it was just a matter of shopping around for the highest bidder, same as you or I would. I like to believe I'm not quite enough of a manchild to throw everyone I worked with and everyone who made me a millionaire under the bus because I was having a midlife crisis about being too rich and popular. But maybe I can't understand the pressure of being overwhelmingly lauded as a paragon of indie development and making one of the most universally popular things since the Wii. Woe is me I guess.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:07
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He wanted out... I think that part is true, he is being honest. But once decided that, he used the most profitable way to get out, itwas to sell the company to the highest bidder. So greed was also part of the execution of how to get out.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:08
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2.5 billion is a gently caress ton of money
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Sep 15, 2014 16:08
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Disappointing Pie posted:Apparently Sweden has a 79% tax rate on these kinds of things, so no Notch probably isn't a billionaire, but Sweden is making bank! lol yeah I'm sure Notch is paying the nominal tax rate on that
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Sep 15, 2014 16:09
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Spalec posted:lol like you wouldn't do the same for 2.5 BILLION dollars. Of course I would but I wouldn't even pretend like I care about these things, like Notch has. Just so you know, defending Notch's e-honor won't get you any of his sweet sell out money.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:09
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Notch Sold Out. He could have open-sourced the game and continued to make a gently caress-ton of money from Realms server. Instead he chose to buy in this capitalistic fantasy that there's never enough money and abandon his game and the community to (just about) the most unliked company in computing. gently caress him, and I regret ever playing Minecraft.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:10
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Eric the Mauve posted:Let's try to be fair, though: Notch has spent the last five years taking a lot of poo poo from eight-year-olds and/or sperglords, pretty much all day every day. See also: eveyone working in a customer facing role ever. Would that we all could get paid millions for it.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:12
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I really wonder if they are actually going to do anything drastic to the game on pc. Would not complain if they remade it in something not-java.
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Megafunk posted:I really wonder if they are actually going to do anything drastic to the game on pc. Would not complain if they remade it in something not-java. Isn't bad java code part of the charm of the game? I thought that's how it kept that indie cred.
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Hacking minecraft for unauthenticated play is the easiest thing, but the downside is that it hurts the server communities a lot. You lose whitelisting and most other good anti-griefing tools if you don't have authenticated names.Disappointing Pie posted:Apparently Sweden has a 79% tax rate on these kinds of things, so no Notch probably isn't a billionaire, but Sweden is making bank! Eric the Mauve posted:Let's try to be fair, though: Notch has spent the last five years taking a lot of poo poo from eight-year-olds and/or sperglords, pretty much all day every day.
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Colonel J posted:Notch Sold Out. He could have open-sourced the game and continued to make a gently caress-ton of money from Realms server. Instead he chose to buy in this capitalistic fantasy that there's never enough money and abandon his game and the community to (just about) the most unliked company in computing. gently caress him, and I regret ever playing Minecraft. stop caring so much about toys for children
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Disappointing Pie posted:Apparently Sweden has a 79% tax rate on these kinds of things, so no Notch probably isn't a billionaire, but Sweden is making bank! Yeah, he's only a millionaire guys c'mon  So when can I expect to play Minecraft One on the Xbox One All in One Entertainment System?
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Sep 15, 2014 16:17
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OwlFancier posted:But maybe I can't understand the pressure of being overwhelmingly lauded as a paragon of indie development and making one of the most universally popular things since the Wii. Plus, the people he's upsetting about this are people who get mad about Minecraft. I'd do exactly the same thing in the same situation, and I'd do it for a whole lot less.
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For 2.5 billion I can't blame him. It was more money than he would made 10 years down the road. Hell to get to that number in profits you need a World of Warcraft 15 dollars a month and an expansion every 2 years numbers.
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I'm not saying what Notch has done here is in any way honorable. I'm just saying you can kinda-sorta understand. And realistically there is no way Notch would be able to get away with publicly saying "gently caress you all, I did it for the money" like he's Hulk Hogan. Microsoft would never allow him to do such a thing, for one obvious reason. I'm certain that there are clauses in the contract prohibiting Notch from publicly saying anything related to the transaction that Microsoft doesn't approve of.
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jim truds posted:Isn't bad java code part of the charm of the game? I thought that's how it kept that indie cred. Java as the Minecraft runtime is 100% necessary for non-api modding.
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Whalley posted:Plus, the people he's upsetting about this are people who get mad about Minecraft. I'd do exactly the same thing in the same situation, and I'd do it for a whole lot less. I'm not mad...just disappointed 
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I could so very much get behind some kind of Valve style way of marketing skins. texture packs and maps where Microsoft and the creators get a cut. I would love a more foolproof way to give a bit of support to people who produce content. Maybe rose tinted glasses, but I can't see why Microsoft would buy Minecraft now, for that much, unless they plan to support the community (and make money through that). A game that old cannot be shifting that many copies any more, but the thriving community is brilliant for advertising, merchandise and potential micro transactions.
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Antoine Silvere posted:Yeah, he's only a millionaire guys c'mon Minecraft two for the xbox two more like
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