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I gotta agree. I got a really cheap Ryobi bandsaw and it's really noticeable that it lacks power. I have to cut any hard wood at an agonizingly slow pace or it just jams. I've tried everything and it's just bad. Glad I only paid $50 off kijiji for the thing.
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I have a 9" bandsaw that is better than no bandsaw but bigger is better. I only paid $35 for it and it was worth every penny, lol. On another subject, if someone asked for an urn with a natural look, what would that mean to you?
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Sep 15, 2014 19:15
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wormil posted:I have a 9" bandsaw that is better than no bandsaw but bigger is better. I only paid $35 for it and it was worth every penny, lol. 'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'
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Sep 15, 2014 19:18
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wormil posted:On another subject, if someone asked for an urn with a natural look, what would that mean to you? Lots of grain and ideally some knots, no stain, one of the less shiny finishes.
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Sep 15, 2014 19:51
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wormil posted:On another subject, if someone asked for an urn with a natural look, what would that mean to you? I would just do a turned vessel with a clear finish.
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Sep 15, 2014 20:34
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wormil posted:I have a 9" bandsaw that is better than no bandsaw but bigger is better. I only paid $35 for it and it was worth every penny, lol. re: bandsaw, Thanks guys. I guess I'll just hunt craigslist for a few months and see if I can steal one. Not paying full price for something like this: http://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-BS900-Band-Saw-9-Inch/dp/B00367WB0G/ref=lp_552910_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1410826135&sr=1-4
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Sep 16, 2014 01:09
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The Grizzly brand bandsaws are generally good quality for your money. They don't make a "cheap and lovely" tier though, which is mostly what you're looking at for sub-$200.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:48
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dhrusis posted:re: bandsaw, Thanks guys. I guess I'll just hunt craigslist for a few months and see if I can steal one. Not paying full price for something like this: http://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-BS900-Band-Saw-9-Inch/dp/B00367WB0G/ref=lp_552910_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1410826135&sr=1-4 You'll probably find a bunch of those older 12" Craftsman saws. Around here they sell for $100-125. They are not great machines but might be usable with a lot of tune up. 9" saws sell like hotcakes around here, usually for too much money. But an older Delta 14" might fit your budget.
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Sep 16, 2014 03:54
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Sorry for the double post but I heard back from the urn person.TooMuchAbstraction posted:Lots of grain and ideally some knots, no stain, one of the less shiny finishes. That is basically their idea as well, sans knots. So basically wood. mds2 posted:I would just do a turned vessel with a clear finish. I would love too but I don't trust my turning skills yet for something that important. My last few attempts have turned out poorly, I need some bowl gouges. I've been using a 3/8" spindle gouge reground and it's not working well inside. Luckily they told me it should be box shaped because it will be interred in a (crypt?) whatever you intern urns in. The picture she sent me is a basically a rectangle with CNC carving on the front, but otherwise plain. I don't do carving so she suggested some contrasting woods. I'll come up with something.
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Sep 16, 2014 04:14
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The Grizzly brand bandsaws are generally good quality for your money. They don't make a "cheap and lovely" tier though, which is mostly what you're looking at for sub-$200. There are other brands of bandsaws out there that look exactly like the Grizzly one. . . don't get them unless they are a name brand. I forget the Quality hierarchy, but Grizzly is at the top, and if they don't pass their quality control they slap another sticker on it. Also some of the cheaper ones that look the same use lower-end motors and generally have a much cheaper feel to them. It's the same as their table saws and most everything else they make. When I was shopping for a table saw I saw that the Grizzly Polar bear had a bunch of doppelgängers out there, and I managed to get my hands on a King Industrial version that looked EXACTLY like the Grizzly one, it was nowhere near the feel and finish as the Grizzly. Don't cheap out on tools if you can all afford it. My dad had to buy 3 Mitre saws and 2 hammer drills before he learned that lesson.
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Blistex posted:There are other brands of bandsaws out there that look exactly like the Grizzly one. . . don't get them unless they are a name brand. I forget the Quality hierarchy, but Grizzly is at the top, and if they don't pass their quality control they slap another sticker on it. Also some of the cheaper ones that look the same use lower-end motors and generally have a much cheaper feel to them. It's the same as their table saws and most everything else they make. When I was shopping for a table saw I saw that the Grizzly Polar bear had a bunch of doppelgängers out there, and I managed to get my hands on a King Industrial version that looked EXACTLY like the Grizzly one, it was nowhere near the feel and finish as the Grizzly. Don't cheap out on tools if you can all afford it. My dad had to buy 3 Mitre saws and 2 hammer drills before he learned that lesson. Fun bit: Almost all Jet, Grizzly, King, Shop Fox, Harbor Freight are all made by the same OEM. You're paying for a better QC check, motor, knobs, paint job, bearings, ect. Same goes for lathes, drill presses, and several other large frame tools.
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Sep 18, 2014 00:51
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I want a grizzly bandsaw really bad. Just can't justify the $700+ to make some bandsaw boxen :-)
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Sep 18, 2014 01:19
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dhrusis posted:I want a grizzly bandsaw really bad. Just can't justify the $700+ to make some bandsaw boxen :-) My grizzly bandsaw is easily the most expensive tool in my shop, and I love love LOVE it and don't regret it one bit.
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dhrusis posted:re: bandsaw, Thanks guys. I guess I'll just hunt craigslist for a few months and see if I can steal one. Not paying full price for something like this: http://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-BS900-Band-Saw-9-Inch/dp/B00367WB0G/ref=lp_552910_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1410826135&sr=1-4 Recently bought a 12" Craftsman for 50. Had to put new tires, new blade, new belt. An additional $90. Following several guides for band saw tuneup I've been able to get it to cut fairly decent for what I'd expect of it, which is not resawing anything large. Plus taking it apart and cleaning it up has seriously helped in my understanding of band saws. Someday when I upgrade I'll appreciate this old beast. Wood Goons. How would I go about making something like this? Is it just glued up? No joinery other than glue?
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Sep 18, 2014 05:05
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I think so. For wide planks people use biscuits, sometimes. But that would be all glue. Wood glue is stronger than wood.
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Sep 18, 2014 14:08
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You need to be very conscious of the type of wood you use (quartersawn is much better for this) and the grain direction when doing something like that, otherwise it'll warp terribly. Not to mention an even finish, very square glue surfaces... etc. It's worth finding a few good articles on gluing up tabletops, there really is a lot to consider if you want something that will last, especially if you live somewhere with large swings in humidity.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:28
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For woodturning fans in the house, here's a neat video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kt_kgp1tL8
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Sep 18, 2014 20:02
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Kidsmoke posted:Wood Goons. How would I go about making something like this? Is it just glued up? No joinery other than glue? If you have to ask, you're either a few years or a good furniture making course away from actually doing that. Like was mentioned before, a table top like that is pretty much asking to warp and create a comical mess of an eating surface. I've been woodworking for years and would never even think of trying that as I'm sure the first season change would destroy it.
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Sep 18, 2014 20:06
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Eh, part of the reason the thin strips approach is used on that table is precisely so that there's less bowing: there's more glue surface, plus you're ostensibly only using the straightest part of the board for your thin strips. Butcher block doesn't warp as much as large boards, and all that.
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I would say they glued it from thin strips so they could resaw the lumber into quartersawn but I can see the end grain is just willy-nilly.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:14
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of doing a Maloof round table but I prefer a pedestal base more along the lines of an Eames/Miller table. The table I posted is from Henrybuilt and I was surprised to see a solid wood top on that base. And then I had some beers and thought I'd ask the Goons if I'm missing something in the joinery.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:04
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Just saw this and thought everyone here could appreciate the craftsmanship of this 200yr old cabinet. http://themetapicture.com/this-antique-cabinet/
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Tindjin posted:Just saw this and thought everyone here could appreciate the craftsmanship of this 200yr old cabinet. I think I saw that when uploading a picture for this thread to imgur. The planning and designing to fit all of that into a package like that without electrical motors, pistons and servos is mindblowing.
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He made a bunch of astoundingly amazing furniture. All if filled with all sorts of hidden compartments. another great example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53zzt2SVde4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Roentgen
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I guess this is woodworking, I mean it's made from wood and it's full of wood, and I made it, finally got a roof on it and some basic shelving so I've filled it with firewood and stuff today. It's a pretty lovely shed as things goes I guess and the ground settled more after I put it there so nothing on it is quite square anymore. But I was able to build it for free using 100% leftovers from the house building and it does the job.   Still need some doors. My cyclone vacuum build is proceeding as well, here's the frame I made along with the main components. Just the basics so far.   I put the cyclone itself in this support frame to make it easier to switch it between containers. Usually you'd just make a hole in the lid and screw it into that. I got a plywood circle that will put on the inside of the lid, then bolts will go through that, the l id and the bottom of the support and force it all together. I might need a gasket, though someone else using this solution claims it seals up real well as is.  Recessed the screws underneath so it won't dig into the lid, will probably put silicone here to make a better seal.
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Been wanting to do this for awhile -- make a home for my lathe. Before  After  Still some cleaning up to do and another workbench to rip out but it's getting better.
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FYI, Menards has Jorgenson CabinetMaster clamps on sale this week. $23-27-30 for 24-36-48" clamps. You can never have too many clamps!
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This is an odd question but how would you go about making a table top with various shapes in the pieces (from different woods)? Do you have to use inlay create wood designs or is it possible to shape entire boards (say in tongue and groove) to have curved sections and other patterns? I know for glued together sections of squares/quadrilaterals (like a bread board) its fine but I don't know if you can do the same with various curves and angles that are not longitudinally aligned.
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loving MDF. Looked at my small table saw sled I had put away, I had leaned it on it's side and the whole base which is made from MDF has gotten bent just from staying that way. Next sled I make will be plywood based.
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MDF is bad stuff. The glue used can be carcinogenic when inhaled after being worked.
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Get it hot and the smell will ruin a room for days.
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If it at least be worth using as firewood but nope not even that...
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Yea, mdf sees very limited use in my shop/house. It certainly has some great uses, but I'm not really a big fan of formaldehyde. But hey, at least the dust doesn't get everywhere and everywhere it can possibly go through your entire house? Right? 
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Finally done with my sideboard.  
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Sylink posted:This is an odd question but how would you go about making a table top with various shapes in the pieces (from different woods)? I'm pretty sure this was posted a while ago, but it shows a process for making cutting boards with curves that I'm pretty sure could be scaled up to a tabletop. I'm not sure if it's the style you're looking for, but maybe it will give you some ideas. http://www.finewoodworking.com/how-to/video/the-coolest-cutting-board-ever.aspx Nevermind the ridiculous video production and bad garage band loops, the process is actually quite neat. Basically, if you want to laminate curved boards together you need to make templates for each side of the joint and cut to those.
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Well the cyclone separator works. Unfortunately the camera died so no pics. I'll try and put together a better report later. But I will be rebuilding the vacuum, removing the motor and blower and making new dedicated housings for it and a compartment for filtering air better than what is possible with a vacuum cleaner bag. But suffice to say i cleaned out my whole garage today, last time I got 30 seconds before the bag was full of sawdust.
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Skinny Bins posted:I'm pretty sure this was posted a while ago, but it shows a process for making cutting boards with curves that I'm pretty sure could be scaled up to a tabletop. I'm not sure if it's the style you're looking for, but maybe it will give you some ideas. What if you want to do something more like this ?  I realize thats inlay and I dont have an issue with cutting shapes, I am worried about how you would deal with expansion. Is it possible make a round table of full thickness pieces in that same pattern?
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Sylink posted:What if you want to do something more like this ? You're on the outskirts of my knowledge level but I believe you will be fine except for the center circle which will want to go oval. You'd want quartersawn for sure.
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