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I just caved in and got a bass, tell me what songs I should learn!
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Sep 15, 2014 16:12
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Reading the local band ads, no one wants a bad guitarrist, but everyone wants a bassist. Should I pick one up as well?
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Sep 15, 2014 16:56
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Yes, different enough to be fun on its own
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Sep 15, 2014 16:58
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After a few hours of playing my bass, I'd say it's definitely worth picking up a bass if you're a guitarist. Quite a bit of the theory carries over, and it's pretty simple to pick up while being really fun.
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Sep 15, 2014 18:48
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Mr E posted:I just caved in and got a bass, tell me what songs I should learn! I'm in the camp that every guitarist should have a bass (and vice versa.) Additionally, everyone that is the least bit serious about music theory should have at least a cheapie keyboard with a few octaves worth of keys. Get ZZ-Top "Tush" CDLC. I only know a couple bass riffs and the very basics carried over from guitar and got a 99.8% first playthrough  that and "Radar Love" (though it's a bit more complicated) by Golden Earring will have you grinning like an idiot. For a bass grove tune - "How Many More Times" Zepplin CDLC, pretty simple for a JPJ bassline and a lot of the feel is in the swing - it was the only bass song I knew more-or-less all the way through prior to RS, and is great for cutting your teeth on bass.
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Sep 15, 2014 20:38
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YeahWhatevah posted:I'm in the camp that every guitarist should have a bass (and vice versa.) Additionally, everyone that is the least bit serious about music theory should have at least a cheapie keyboard with a few octaves worth of keys. Yeah, the first thing I played was Radar Love, I'll check out that ZZ Top DLC and LZ CDLC. I'm also suprised how much easier than I expected most of the Rush DLC is on Bass, but it's still a blast.
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Sep 15, 2014 20:45
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I bought a bass Sunday. Longview and Walk On the Wild Side let's go! Oh and I should probably Hey Ho Let's Go the on the bass too...
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Sep 15, 2014 21:06
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I think Spiderwebs is my favorite piece of DLC this year. I'm loving the hell out of it on both Guitar and Bass. I had never really listened to the song before I bought the No Doubt pack either.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:24
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Mr E posted:After a few hours of playing my bass, I'd say it's definitely worth picking up a bass if you're a guitarist. Quite a bit of the theory carries over, and it's pretty simple to pick up while being really fun. Here's the thing about a bass. It's stupid easy to learn the basics and play the average song, however mastering it to notable levels is much harder. For example, it's one thing to play "Next Girl" and another to play "Winona's Big Brown Beaver"
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Sep 15, 2014 22:02
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OhDearGodNo posted:Here's the thing about a bass. Oh of course, I know that, I play drums sometimes and it's fairly easy to play a simple beat, but something like March of the Pigs or a swing beat in a rock song is way harder. That's what I love about both instruments, I can produce decent music with a little practice, but also have something to work towards. Mr E fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 22:19
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Bass takes a hell of a lot more out of my fingers than guitar, like one hour of bass is the equivalent month of guitar playing wear for me. For that alone I have respect for bass guitar players.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:30
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OhDearGodNo posted:Here's the thing about a bass. Les Claypool is pretty cool, but I sure hope no one I ever have to play with has "mastered" bass playing like he has
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Sep 15, 2014 22:39
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Bass is deceptively simple, the skill is really in the feel and really making stuff groove, and that's something Rocksmith gives no fucks about. I mean obviously there's more complicated bass parts (and when you get into improvisation it can get pretty hardcore) but there's a reason a lot of great songs by great players have really simple lines. Unfortunately this means a lot of people will be bored by some of them, and the game will let you half-rear end them no problem! And learn to play with your fingers if you aren't already. Pick and fingers, do both. There's something incredibly satisfying and tactile about plucking them strings, and it gives you a ton of control and nuance
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Sep 15, 2014 23:11
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TheChaosPath posted:Les Claypool is pretty cool, but I sure hope no one I ever have to play with has "mastered" bass playing like he has Maybe I should say something like Orion, my son plays the bass exclusively and it's one he's been working on for a long time.
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Sep 15, 2014 23:27
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This week is almost certainly Creed.
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Sep 15, 2014 23:43
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unlawfulsoup posted:This week is almost certainly Creed. Higher's fun to play and Creed is the most guilty of pleasures, especially that lovely Bullets music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPzhUp8mWgs
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Sep 16, 2014 01:24
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I'm having trouble with bends. I can hit half step bends consistently but full step bends cause me problems (and I'm pretty sure I've seen at least some songs with step and a half bends which are just out of my scope at the moment. Typically the other strings will get in the way and cause the bending string to slip from beneath my finger before I actually hit the right spot. Am I supposed to slide my fingers under the other strings or just push all of them over? Also I don't think I've ever successfully hit a note where I was supposed to pre bend and release a string but that is at least partly me not knowing a song well enough to know it's coming up and be caught unprepared repeatedly.
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Sep 16, 2014 01:36
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Mr E posted:Higher's fun to play and Creed is the most guilty of pleasures, especially that lovely Bullets music video:
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Sep 16, 2014 01:36
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unlawfulsoup posted:This week is almost certainly Creed. Come now - who doesn't want to hear the dulcet tones of "Can you take me higher..." ...dor-der-dar-dedele-doo... for approximately the 4,275,898th time? Don't want to band shame but I was hoping for a Creed/Nickelback/Limp Bizkit mega-pack to get that unpleasantry out of the way. I'm sure I pissed off a few folks there anyway, so I'll throw this red meat out - I could actually go for some Jack Johnson - fire away haters. 
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Sep 16, 2014 01:46
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Agent355 posted:I'm having trouble with bends. I can hit half step bends consistently but full step bends cause me problems (and I'm pretty sure I've seen at least some songs with step and a half bends which are just out of my scope at the moment. Typically the other strings will get in the way and cause the bending string to slip from beneath my finger before I actually hit the right spot. Am I supposed to slide my fingers under the other strings or just push all of them over? Also I don't think I've ever successfully hit a note where I was supposed to pre bend and release a string but that is at least partly me not knowing a song well enough to know it's coming up and be caught unprepared repeatedly. I had the same problem a while ago, and found playing Temple of Bends for a couple hours made a huge difference. It's a really good practice tool.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:01
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Agent355 posted:I'm having trouble with bends. I can hit half step bends consistently but full step bends cause me problems (and I'm pretty sure I've seen at least some songs with step and a half bends which are just out of my scope at the moment. Typically the other strings will get in the way and cause the bending string to slip from beneath my finger before I actually hit the right spot. Am I supposed to slide my fingers under the other strings or just push all of them over? Also I don't think I've ever successfully hit a note where I was supposed to pre bend and release a string but that is at least partly me not knowing a song well enough to know it's coming up and be caught unprepared repeatedly. Make sure you're doing them like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGl0urYSuug Bending is not done by pushing with your finger. It's more of a doorknob-turning action, where a finger frets the note and the fingers behind it sit on the string too, and help it along. The actual force is exerted by twisting your wrist, so your hand pivots. Watch the video and you'll see As far as the other strings go... it's common to let one of those 'behind the note' fingers stick out a bit, usually your first finger, so it reaches the other strings first and moves them out of the way, muting them. You'll also let it flop over the higher strings too, so they don't make any pings or squacks, but this is a more general technique. I bookmarked this video because I post it so often, really helpful explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tmM83KeP28 The general idea there is that you will get unwanted noise from the other strings, so you basically keep them muted and under control when they're supposed to be quiet. Same idea when you bend, you use your hands to mute the other strings so when you do hit them (and you will with most bends) it doesn't actually make a sound, and same for letting them go. Pre-bending is a skill, along with bending to pitch in general. Eventually you just get used to the feel of how much is right around the fretboard. I think it's in the justin video, but a good practice is to play your target note (the pitch you want to hit, like 2 frets higher than your start note for a whole-tone bend), then try and bend to the same pitch you just heard. Then play the target note again so you can hear how you did. Do it a lot, you can watch tv or something, and get your fingers and brain used to it
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Sep 16, 2014 02:02
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When I say guilty pleasure I mean it: I know they're bad and I can't stop.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:13
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Is the pivoting wrist action the same way I'm supposed to do vibrato? While I'm here another thing I still struggle with, Many chords have me play 1-3 notes on (for instance) the fifth fret with my first finger and another 1-3 notes on the seventh fret with my third. Thats not so bad when it happens down at the 7th-12th fret but when they ask me to make the same finger pattern on frets one and three I can't get my third finger far enough down the neck to make it work. Am I holding the guitar wrong or do I just have to keep trying until my fingers limber up.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:34
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Don't bring your thumb over the neck, keep it in the middle of the back of the neck and don't collapse it. This will allow you to do further stretches. Also don't over do anything, if something isn't comfortable you're doing it wrong or you haven't built up the hand strength for it.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:42
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YeahWhatevah posted:Come now - who doesn't want to hear the dulcet tones of Oh man, that part is so fun to play lol
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Sep 16, 2014 02:57
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Agent355 posted:Is the pivoting wrist action the same way I'm supposed to do vibrato? Have another video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sh9a6HzM9Y Assuming that's the one you mean... and yeah, it's harder where the frets are wider. You need to build up to it, get stronger and used to making the right shape. Generally your first finger can be quite lazy, since really there's only a couple of places it has to actually fret the string, and it's often easier to kinda use the edge of your first finger to barre because it's more like solid bone (no creases and padding for the strings to hide in). The thing about the third finger and going 'eh' about the high E string... I never knew that when I was starting out, so I learned to do that mini barre with my pinky  And with vibrato, that's a personal thing. There are lots of ways to do it - bending, bending up and down, squeezing the note rapidly, shaking the guitar... it depends what kind of sound you want to achieve. Generally it's a subtle thing, so the strings don't need to move much and you can just bend with your fingers, if you like
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Sep 16, 2014 03:03
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Creed Song Pack – $11.99 Creed “Higher” – Drop D Creed “My Own Prison” – Drop D Creed “My Sacrifice” – Custom Tuning (DADADd) / Drop D [Bass] Creed “One Last Breath” – Drop D [Bass] Creed “With Arms Wide Open” – Drop D
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Sep 16, 2014 05:20
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Guess I'll have to wait for Scott Stapp's solo DLC for "Marlins Will Soar"
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Sep 16, 2014 05:26
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My Own Prison was the very first song I learned on guitar so I'll probably get it, feel free to shame me for this
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Sep 16, 2014 07:32
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rebel1608 posted:My Own Prison was the very first song I learned on guitar so I'll probably get it, feel free to shame me for this
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Sep 16, 2014 07:47
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Mr E posted:When I say guilty pleasure I mean it: You have a serious problem.
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Sep 16, 2014 11:12
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Isn't Altered Bridge a bunch of the same people from Creed anyway? Or maybe its just one of the guitar players? I feel like this game has been encouraging Creed for a while. Plus I am sure pretty much all these songs are long running CDLCs that will have to be removed from the fan sites now anyway. I am tempted to get these just cause I feel like they had some neat guitar riffs even if the songs themselves were pretty insufferable after the first couple hundred times you heard them.
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Sep 16, 2014 14:20
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Alter Bridge is basically Creed minus Scott Stapp
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Sep 16, 2014 14:39
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Alter Bridge exists because Creed couldn't stand Scott Stapp any more than anyone else could.
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Sep 16, 2014 15:03
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OhDearGodNo posted:You have a serious problem. I know, but John Fogerty is just so good!
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Sep 16, 2014 15:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOLhdy9uHzE Here is the Creed Pack video preview
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Sep 16, 2014 17:57
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My g string doesn't seem to register correctly in game. I don't seem to have the same problem with the other strings but sometimes particularly in the higher frets the game just won't register a note even though I played the right one. Is this a common problem with rocksmith or is it a problem with my guitar? Maybe I'm just putting too much/little pressure on the strings causing it to play slightly sharp or flat? I don't really know but it's really irritating to be trying to improve at a given song, play the right note but have the game tell me I'm wrong anyhow.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:03
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Agent355 posted:My g string doesn't seem to register correctly in game. I don't seem to have the same problem with the other strings but sometimes particularly in the higher frets the game just won't register a note even though I played the right one. Is this a common problem with rocksmith or is it a problem with my guitar? Maybe I'm just putting too much/little pressure on the strings causing it to play slightly sharp or flat? I don't really know but it's really irritating to be trying to improve at a given song, play the right note but have the game tell me I'm wrong anyhow. You should check the intonation of the string. There's a guide for this in the OP of this thread, I think.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:11
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Well I learned what intonation was today, I learned that 5 of my strings are perfectly intoned and one of them is incredibly out of whack. I learned that in order to adjust the intonation I have to actually remove the string, or at least release enough tension that I can get under it where the screw is, which is incredibly annoying and tedious. The only tuner I have is the one that comes with rocksmith and for some reason that one doesn't seem to just let you use it like a regular tuner so the only comparison I could get between the 12th harmonic and the 12th fret is how far away they are from what my B is supposed to be in standard tuning  I got it to within 8 of each other, near as I can tell. So my harmonic was 802 and my 12th fret 810. Is that close enough or should I try to get even more accurate. My other strings are nearly pitch perfect, only off by 1 or 2 but I'm getting tired of constantly loosening and tightening the string entirely to make these small adjustments.
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Sep 16, 2014 21:01
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Agent355 posted:Well I learned what intonation was today, I learned that 5 of my strings are perfectly intoned and one of them is incredibly out of whack. I learned that in order to adjust the intonation I have to actually remove the string, or at least release enough tension that I can get under it where the screw is, which is incredibly annoying and tedious. It's worth the effort to get it right now
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Sep 16, 2014 21:04
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