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SlyFrog posted:White Russians. Dude. Nice marmot.
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nm posted:I seriously wonder about lds law students. Crippling mmo addiction.
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Professor Funk posted:Yeah, fair enough. 1Ls are still in the "do way more than we need to because we don't know what else to do" phase, so hopefully I'll start studying smarter sooner rather than later. Realize that a big part of being a law school graduate is dickwaving about how little work you did in law school.
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Sep 16, 2014 00:08
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I just got an email for a doc review job that requires a drug test to work there.
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Sep 16, 2014 00:13
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Alaemon posted:Nice marmot. I love a good Caucasian. I just restocked my bar last night and actually have all the ingredients ready to go. Nitrousoxide posted:I just got an email for a doc review job that requires a drug test to work there. 
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Do you not like wine? Like out of a glass bottle? Bourbon and coke? Vodka and tonic?
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Sep 16, 2014 00:36
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Realize that a big part of being a law school graduate is dickwaving about how little work you did in law school. Then you move up to lying about how much work you do and how hard you work (except when you are telling the truth)
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Realize that a big part of being a law school graduate is dickwaving about how little work you did in law school. No matter how much or how little I studied I got a b or an a. There was never a correlation for me. I used this to my advantage 3L when I realized the posh firm life was not to be. To our single 1L: it's okay to study, as long as you don't brag about it.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:No matter how much or how little I studied I got a b or an a. There was never a correlation for me. I'm also a 1L this year and I'm glad you said that. So far (so far) I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the things we're talking about and what I'm supposed to be looking for but I 100% expect to start getting into things that are actually difficult. I try to read a day ahead of the next class and review on Sundays. To the best of my abilities I don't do any constructive work on Saturday and very little on Friday night. That said, there is at least one group in my section who is already outlining, and yes they do raise their hand and spout of ridiculous hypotheticals that miss the point of the cases (not sure if it's fair to call them gunners, most are a good deal dumber than they think they are). And there's one girl I know of who takes notes at things like guest speakers (or orientation seminars) where there is zero possible chance we will be tested. I'm talking 3 pages of notes for the "Welcome to Law School" schpeel on day 1. So far law school isn't that much harder than undergrad so long as you can clear your schedule enough to let you actually read.
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Yeah, you should probably study a lot in your 1L year, at least for the fall semester. It pretty much determines whether your life will be lovely or mega-lovely. Worrying about being a tryhard and poo poo like that is for times when hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and your shot at gainful employment aren't on the line. Just don't be a dick in class and ask god-awful "questions" that are actually thinly-veiled attempts at bragging.
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Pook Good Mook posted:That said, there is at least one group in my section who is already outlining, and yes they do raise their hand and spout of ridiculous hypotheticals that miss the point of the cases (not sure if it's fair to call them gunners, most are a good deal dumber than they think they are). And there's one girl I know of who takes notes at things like guest speakers (or orientation seminars) where there is zero possible chance we will be tested. I'm talking 3 pages of notes for the "Welcome to Law School" schpeel on day 1. This is pretty much textbook gunner, you nailed it, including being a lot dumber than they think they are. You should work hard, but remember that a lot of people are doing way too much work just because it makes them feel good/secure. Many people in law school work well past the point of diminishing returns without really accomplishing anything at all. Outlining this early is silly. Start thinking about that in like November.
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Alaemon posted:As good an opening as I'll get: I don't know how you made it to being a lawyer without learning to mix drinks but there are a virtually infinite number of drinks designed to mask the taste of alcohol as much as possible. For starters: high quality alcohol, and don't mix the drinks too strong. But what have you tried that failed?
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My wife has recently gotten into making a slightly absurd rum drink. Rum, coconut milk, lime juice, sugar, ice cubes, blender. Depending on how she's feeling it's either "super-sweet creamy deliciousness with the barest hint of rum" or "super strong have a little lime in your rum oh by the way it's white because of coconut milk." Either way it's good. If you're feeling like a sorority girl add coconut rum, but don't add too much or all you can taste is sunscreen.
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Thanks to law school I got into rugby and now I coach a women's rugby team
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Bold Robot posted:You should work hard, but remember that a lot of people are doing way too much work just because it makes them feel good/secure. Many people in law school work well past the point of diminishing returns without really accomplishing anything at all. Yes. In other words, they are preparing themselves for their lives in BigLaw.
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About half of the lectures during my orientation last year were about how we were all destined to become alcoholics (if we weren't already). Then they had an open bar mixer.
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Nichol posted:Guys I think I am even worse at fantasy football than I am at lawyering. 
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Elotana posted:Couldn't the inevitable follow-up allegations have waited until Tuesday when I could trade AD for forty cents on the dollar as someone who trusts in AD's running ability far more than the NFL's willingness to suspend a superstar without a video and an angry senate demanding they do so six months ago, I am delighted to offer you thirty-five cents* on the dollar *cents are composed of canadian cents & wooden nickles only
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Alaemon posted:As good an opening as I'll get: Moxie and whiskey.
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SlyFrog posted:Yes. In other words, they are preparing themselves for their lives in BigLaw. I really believe that a lot of the 1L law school grind is just a way of breaking down people's expectations of leading decent lives doing interesting work with a good work-life balance, so that they will be prepared for BigLaw or other lovely law work. It's either that, or law professors propping up a needlessly stressful and byzantine method of education for no reasons other than tradition and a perverse joy in the suffering of others.
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Also you need to create the illusion that it's difficult so you can charge a lot of money to learn how to do it.
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re: drinking A friend recently went in for a health check up. As part of intake the nurse asked him how many alcoholic drinks he had each week. He said something like 8-10 and she started excortiating him for his drinking habit, just really laying into him. A few minutes later he mentions that he's a law student and she immediately said—"Oh! 8-10 drinks is quite good then. Good for you!" and then continued on with the rest of the intake questions.
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mastershakeman posted:Famous and Good authors, that is. Terry Brooks is competent so he's considered a good fantasy author by some people, I guess? Including one of the bro-iest lawyers I know, but that (and the inevitable postmodern bro irony) is just a cover for still reading Terry Brooks. Me, I pretty much don't hide my growing Star Wars collection anymore. IDGAF, it buries the lede (that I went to law school).
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Tucker Max is also a lawyer and he's written multiple best selling books and a screenplay.
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After sitting at a desk for 12-14 hours during the day how do I convince my fat rear end to get to the gym when I just want to drink a whole bottle of Gentleman Jack so I can get some sleep?
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Hit the gym before work to sweat out all the alcohol you drank from the night before. edit: Pook Good Mook posted:That said, there is at least one group Hey you found the people giving you real life examples of what you should not do unless if you want to alienate the only people you will ever be friends with again (for at least the next three years). Seeing as how you have identified these other people, that means you probably have a modicum of self awareness and can therefore avoid such pitfalls of douchebaggery. That's all it takes. Good luck baby 1Ls. Green Crayons fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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mikeraskol posted:After sitting at a desk for 12-14 hours during the day how do I convince my fat rear end to get to the gym when I just want to drink a whole bottle of Gentleman Jack so I can get some sleep? Skip the weights and the running; take up MMA. Much more fun.
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CaptainScraps posted:Skip the weights and the running; take up MMA. Much more fun.
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Although I enjoy lifting also.
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mikeraskol posted:After sitting at a desk for 12-14 hours during the day how do I convince my fat rear end to get to the gym when I just want to drink a whole bottle of Gentleman Jack so I can get some sleep? Join one of those leagues where you play a dumb sport and then go drinking. Some dumb sports are surprisingly huge amounts of exercise. Then you reward yourself by drowing your sorrows.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Although I enjoy lifting also. I can't lift weights and kickbox. It's too drat painful.
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Oh, Nova. “We have not been good at marketing and promoting our school, and that’s what we are doing now,” Perez said. “Rather than spending many hours on a college campus, we are turning towards social media as a direct marketing campaign to get our name in front of the students so they can see us an option.” http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/the-candy-crush-law-school/
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CaptainScraps posted:I can't lift weights and kickbox. It's too drat painful. That's why you
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I witnessed this conversation at the university gym in law school. I saw these exact literal words pass between sentient people directly in front of me: To set our scene: Hot undergrad girl meets beefed-up powerlifter law student in the university gym. We join the conversation mid-hit, after she found out he's a law student Hot Girl: So this weekend my friends and I are going to a concert. We have more room in the car if you're free, my friend was going to go but bailed out on us. Powerlifter [all of a sudden interested]: Really? Had they already bought a ticket? Hot Girl: No and that's another story. I bought all the tickets and everyone paid me back except her. She bailed out for some family thing. Powerlifter [thoughtfully staring into the distance]: It's just a verbal contract, but that's still binding under the Uniform Commercial Code. There's offer and acceptance. UCC Code section... Hot Girl [interrupting]: YEAH SO what are you doing this weekend? Powerlifter: Oh, I'm saving my arms today because [stretches] YEP, probably going to lift several tons of lumber on my uncle's property. Hot Girl: Wow... Ok, see you around Powerlifter [mistaking the intent of the wow]: Sure thing. (nods to himself like he just scored)
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woozle wuzzle posted:I witnessed this conversation at the university gym in law school. I saw these exact literal words pass between sentient people directly in front of me: This is upsetting.
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woozle wuzzle posted:Powerlifter [mistaking the intent of the wow]: Sure thing. (nods to himself like he just scored) Amazing
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CaptainScraps posted:Today's lesson for young attorneys in court: To add to these: (5) stop putting 15 pages of bullshit into a 25 page motion. If you think have more than two big issues, you're probably wrong. (6) don't reiterate what's in your brief. Spend a max of 5 mins going through the facts/argument, then let the judge ask questions and develop your position via the judge's questions. The biggest mistake I see attorneys make is drone on about the facts forever. (7) often, the best way to begin a hearing is to talk about all the things that you and the other side agree. Instant credibility. Similarly, don't dispute things just because they're bad for your position. Admit, then flip or explain why it doesn't matter. (8) for both your brief and oral argument, have a "stupid" version that uses the following format (this triple applies for plaintiff's attorneys): (A) The issue is _____ (B) I should win this issue because ______ (C) the standard is ______ (D) these facts establish that my case meets this standard (E) other party argues _____, but their position is incorrect because ____ (F) (optional) in fact, (potentially negative thing) is irrelevant/actually supports my case/is countered by ____ because ____ If you follow this format, you would be in the top 5% of attorneys I see.
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Pook Good Mook posted:That said, there is at least one group in my section who is already outlining, and yes they do raise their hand and spout of ridiculous hypotheticals that miss the point of the cases (not sure if it's fair to call them gunners, most are a good deal dumber than they think they are). And there's one girl I know of who takes notes at things like guest speakers (or orientation seminars) where there is zero possible chance we will be tested. I'm talking 3 pages of notes for the "Welcome to Law School" schpeel on day 1. Wait until you get to a point you can choose your classes. Then you'll sit next to the guy who tells you that you should have showed up for the seminar before you got in off the waitlist and THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU GUYS. All other seats at the table will have been taken by this point, of course. I think we also had one in this thread where someone got threatened they'd be reported for browsing/emailing during class. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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yronic heroism posted:I think we also had one in this thread where someone got threatened they'd be reported for browsing/emailing during class.
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