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Jotaro kicking the living poo poo out of Dio is a perfectly reasonable prediction for someone to have. I know that's what I had expected to happen the entirety of the way through part 3, and really I find it hard to believe that anyone seriously expects something else to happen except for maaaybe some kind of team attack where the whole team would defeat Dio at once.
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Yeah, "protagonist beats main villain" doesn't exactly require advance knowledge of the source material to predict.
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Sep 16, 2014 07:28
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It's a pretty obvious prediction but the specific wording of "Jotaro inevitably gets the upper hand on DIO and shows the world the best beatdown ever seen." is slightly suspicious.
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Sep 16, 2014 07:40
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Yeah, but who cares? As long as nobody spergs out about it, nobody's gonna get spoiled.
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Sep 16, 2014 07:41
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Yeah it's being snide but if you don't point out that there's spoilers in the text then nobody will know
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Sep 16, 2014 07:46
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Gruckles posted:It's a pretty obvious prediction but the specific wording of "Jotaro inevitably gets the upper hand on DIO and shows the world the best beatdown ever seen." is slightly suspicious. Isn't the World named by this point in the anime? I think Enya goes off about how unspecifiedly amazing it is and names it at that point.
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Sep 16, 2014 07:51
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hoobajoo posted:Isn't the World named by this point in the anime? I think Enya goes off about how unspecifiedly amazing it is and names it at that point. It's not, but anyone with even a little knowledge about Tarot can guess what it is.
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I think Dio and Enya have both mentioned "the world" in ways that don't make it clear it's his stand, but if you know the tarot it would be pretty easy to pick up on too. Unless for some reason you thought Dio would end up with The Fool. Either way like the other guys said there's no actual problem as long as nobody confronts him about it.
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Aurain posted:This post over in the Anime thread kind of reads like an "educated" guess. I hope he's not trying to do that though because that's lame. I mean, to not be able to predict that Jotaro is gonna beat up Dio, you'd have to never have seen a shonen in your life.
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Sep 16, 2014 08:10
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Why are people whining about hypothetical spoilers in the manga thread now? This is some unhealthy paranoia, anti-trust bullshit. Make spoilers mandatory.
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quakster posted:Why are people whining about hypothetical spoilers in the manga thread now? This is some unhealthy paranoia, anti-trust bullshit. Make spoilers mandatory. Dude, someone in this very thread was complaining about possible piracy just because a guy used the word grab. People on this forum are just weird, just have to roll with it.
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Sep 16, 2014 10:37
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Ten dollars worth of crazy.
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Sep 16, 2014 10:48
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quakster posted:Ten dollars worth of crazy. You get way more than ten bucks worth, it's the best deal you can ask for.
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Sep 16, 2014 10:58
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Gruckles posted:I think Dio and Enya have both mentioned "the world" in ways that don't make it clear it's his stand, but if you know the tarot it would be pretty easy to pick up on too. Unless for some reason you thought Dio would end up with The Fool. Personally, I always thought it'd be really neat if Jonathan's Stand was The Fool (albeit with a different effect) instead of Hermit Purple and Dio's was The World, given how the story of the Tarot Cards works.
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Sep 16, 2014 15:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOnjm9MU7pY
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Sep 16, 2014 16:13
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I thought that was Tonio, but 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Personally, I always thought it'd be really neat if Jonathan's Stand was The Fool (albeit with a different effect) instead of Hermit Purple and Dio's was The World, given how the story of the Tarot Cards works. The way I always looked at it was that the World was always Jonathan's stand and that its power was to be able to use any stand power any existing Joestar had. Hence why it has both HP and SP's abilities.
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Sep 16, 2014 17:24
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I wonder if Josuke had Crazy Diamond at that point. Then again, even if he did and The World worked that way, it's not like DIO would get any benefit from it.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I wonder if Josuke had Crazy Diamond at that point. Then again, even if he did and The World worked that way, it's not like DIO would get any benefit from it. I like the idea that The World had Crazy Diamond's power, but DIO never knew simply because he never desired to heal or restore anything.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:20
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hoobajoo posted:I like the idea that The World had Crazy Diamond's power, but DIO never knew simply because he never desired to heal or restore anything. It'd be hilarious if Dio used it on himself and restored his humanity.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:59
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MelvinBison posted:The way I always looked at it was that the World was always Jonathan's stand and that its power was to be able to use any stand power any existing Joestar had. Hence why it has both HP and SP's abilities. I like that theory too (and that Holly/DIO's vague sense of what Jotaro and Joseph were doing was part of Holly's stand power), but the canon explanation is that "The Vines" was Jonathan's stand manifesting through his body, and the behind-the-scenes reason is "Araki ditched his original idea of The World being every stand power."
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Tobaccrow posted:I like that theory too (and that Holly/DIO's vague sense of what Jotaro and Joseph were doing was part of Holly's stand power), but the canon explanation is that "The Vines" was Jonathan's stand manifesting through his body, and the behind-the-scenes reason is "Araki ditched his original idea of The World being every stand power." Oh. That sucks.  Spirit photography doesn't seem very useful for a guy from Victorian England. Especially Jonathan.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:46
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MelvinBison posted:Oh. That sucks. Ignore the canon. It's just word of god, not actually in the manga, and JoJo is full of plotholes anyway. Your theory is better.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:50
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I wonder if Josuke had Crazy Diamond at that point. Then again, even if he did and The World worked that way, it's not like DIO would get any benefit from it. Yeah, it was said that Josuke had a fever when he was 5, during the events of Stardust Crusaders, which I assume means he had the same "Stand sickness" as Holly. Makes me wonder if Holly actually got to keep her Stand since Josuke apparently did.
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Star Platinum posted:Yeah, it was said that Josuke had a fever when he was 5, during the events of Stardust Crusaders, which I assume means he had the same "Stand sickness" as Holly. Makes me wonder if Holly actually got to keep her Stand since Josuke apparently did. I wouldn't doubt that she did, but whether or not she can consciously manifest it is another question.
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My favorite thing about Stands is how, in Stardust Crusaders, Araki lays out this list of rules for Stands and it takes him like a couple Stands for him to go "why did I do that?" and begin breaking them. Araki has plans for most of his stories but he will change them on a whim and make no effort to explain it, unless he has to throw out some bullshit because people ask the same question too many times. I honestly don't think his answers are any more valid than the fans' for most of the plotholes he leaves in his wake.
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Stands, as a rule, cannot heat things up to cause spontaneous combustion. They also, generally speaking, don't give you the ability to predict the future, to possess your opponent, to stop time or to conjure a gun out of nowhere. Stands have a lot of rules.
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Like right from the get go Jotaro has all that stuff in his cell, then you find out Star Platinum can't go more than a couple of meters away so―
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Potsticker posted:Like right from the get go Jotaro has all that stuff in his cell, then you find out Star Platinum can't go more than a couple of meters away so―
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Nessus posted:His cell was right next to the contraband locker? poo poo, that makes sense.
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Sep 16, 2014 23:18
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Nessus posted:His cell was right next to the contraband locker? It's plausible I guess. I dunno what kind of stuff ends up in those things.
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Sep 16, 2014 23:32
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Kurtofan posted:poo poo, that makes sense. He could always just be stealing stuff from dudes who walk by outside, too.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:07
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both of these are satisfying explanations for the treadmill
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LvK posted:both of these are satisfying explanations for the treadmill There were drugs hidden in the treadmill.
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LvK posted:both of these are satisfying explanations for the treadmill Coco Jumbo happened to wander by at an inopportune moment.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:26
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I dunno, I'm okay with that inconsistency just because it led to a loving great sight gag.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:26
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MelvinBison posted:Oh. That sucks. Considering Joseph was able to make a map out of dirt on the ground, as well as the abundance of mirrors, I'm sure...
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Sep 17, 2014 00:37
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In retrospect you can't help but think about it, and that kills the gag for me.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:38
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LvK posted:both of these are satisfying explanations for the treadmill Moving truck.
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How did DIO fix Pucci's foot if it wasn't for his Crazy Diamond.
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