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Sober posted:Ummm, so when you write your malformed abortion of a piece of fanfiction, you can at least say you had used all those tropes? Excuse me, in my fanfiction she subverts that trope and has no legs. How she got like that is Darker and Edgier. (+1 trope, writer gains trait 'unreadability')
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Hammurabi posted:Why yes, most people do have legs. This is the trope page for "She's Got Legs". http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShesGotlegs posted:
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I'm re-reading Anne Frank's diary at the moment and wondered if there's a TV Tropes page on it. There is. And the Characters section is even worse. quote:Anyone Can Die: As this is non-fiction, it holds true that anyone can die. Sure enough, most of them do.  quote:Alternative Character Interpretation: The diary has been assigned in some North Korean classrooms. Students are taught that while Anne had a beautiful dream, she was naive and stupid for failing to fight against the Nazis. The students are then taught the importance of fighting against other "Nazi" nations, particularly the United States. I wonder if any tropers think this. "Why didn't the people in the Annexe fight back against the Nazis? Pussies."
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Tropers can't handle the most basic people interactions, you think they can wrap their heads around complicated things like that? I was listening to a history podcast recently that talked about how the Mongols had their victims so terrified that one Mongol rounded up a group of people to kill, then realized he forgot his weapon. He told them to wait while he got it, and they ALL STAYED THERE AND WAITED, even though he was ALL ALONE, until he came back and killed them all. Do you really want to work out how tropers would try to understand something like that? Knowing them, their Assessment would be A Sentence with lots of Randomly Capitalized Words because You Can Define existence by Applying Fiction Concepts To Everything.
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Cornwind Evil posted:Tropers can't handle the most basic people interactions, you think they can wrap their heads around complicated things like that? How tropers try to understand something like that is the usual way they try to understand anything i.e. endlessly sub-divide into smaller and smaller categories. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FearTropes posted:
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Cornwind Evil posted:Tropers can't handle the most basic people interactions, you think they can wrap their heads around complicated things like that? Your Worst Nightmare The Dreaded Mongols making you do a Deer In The Headlights over your Cruel And Unusual Death because he's going to Kill Em All
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Djeser posted:Your Worst Nightmare The Dreaded Mongols making you do a Deer In The Headlights over your Cruel And Unusual Death because he's going to Kill Em All  containment breached! Containment breached! One of ours has fallen
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Sep 16, 2014 16:03
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JosephWongKS posted:TV Tropes: Academic Resource. Jesus, wasn't Fetish Fuel supposed to be amputated years ago?
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Sep 16, 2014 16:05
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Jesus, wasn't Fetish Fuel supposed to be amputated years ago? That only made them hornier.
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Zig-zagged in Chakona Space when Malena uses an overdose of mating pheromones to make Garrek impregnate her. In foxtaur society males are the protected gender so her actions are recognized as abhorrent and she is forced to leave their village, but she didn't know that Garrek would completely lose his will (they were already mated, she thought it would just "put him in the mood") and her Chakat co-mates are quick to forgive her.
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Fanfic Recs: Family Guy Proof that the remaining 10% is worth dying for here. These are recommendations made by Tropers for Family Guy fanfics, all of which have to be signed to stay on the page. Feel free to add a fanfic of your own to the list, but remember to use the template found here. You can also add to the current recommendations if you want. Refrain from posting Conversation in the Main Page though; that goes in the discussion page. Authors and Websites None yet. General Fics Stories focused on the family and the friendly relationships of the cast. Plot-focused stories or light day-in-the-life stories. Pretty much anything that isn't focused on romance. Attack of the 100 Foot Meg Griffin by Grey-X It has its own article now. Recommended by Burstkiller and Happy Man Status: Completed Synopsis: Meg Griffin has always been treated like a reject and an outcast, even by her own family. But when exposure to a strange meteorite transforms her into a towering giantess and she finally snaps, everyone in Quahog had better watch out. Comments: For those who been wanting a Meg revenge fic, this one will finally feed your hunger. Great characterizations, a plot that is solid from top to bottom and anime-flavored manatee gags that will leave you in tears. Fic has a very good pre-revival vibe to it and after reading, you might join the other reviewers in telling the author to send it in to Seth himself. [add review for Attack of the 100 Foot Meg Griffin] add review Payback From A Pipe by Meowth's Toon Dragon Recommended by Gordon Schumway Status: Completed Synopsis: After beating Brian half to death for sleeping with his transgender father, Quagmire learns that payback and karma can be both extremely vicious and extremely fast when Stewie finds out what happened... Comments: If you're one of those people who's disgusted with Quagmire's hypocrisy in hating Brian when he's just about the last person who has any right to look down on anyone, and for beating a completely ignorant Brian at the end of Quagmire's Dad for something he had absolutely no idea about, then this is the fic for you. Stewie throws all of Quagmire's hypocritical bullshit back in his face, wonderfully deconstructing his original "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Brian by turning all of Quagmire's accusations back towards him, and giving Quagmire the fate he so richly deserves. Second opinion by DARTHYAN: That sort of misses the point. Quagmire flat out admits that he does bad things as well. The only difference is that he doesn't try to act like he's a paragon of knowledge and virtue (Brian's claim to be into smart women yet always dating bimbos with good bodies, accusing christians of being ignorant and cruel when he not only failed college twice but failed as a father as well, and preaching on his soapbox about the plight of the poor while not doing jack poo poo about it). Some of Quagmire's points are legit. Yeah, DARTHYAN, YMMV on all of that. While it's true Brian usually doesn't fess up to some of his problems (probably one of this biggest character flaws), it just doesn't change the fact Quagmire is inherently a much worse person at heart when compared to Brian. He has no problem sexually harassing teenagers, or apparently having his way with a teenage gagged and tied up ("Dear diary- Jackpot."). At least Brian tries to be a good person, even if his own faults tend to sometimes get in the way of that, compared to Quagmire who tends to do whatever he feels can get him laid in a situation most of the time. Oh, and the father thing is complete bullshit. Brian managed to completely turn that kids life around, from a delinquent to an honestly good person. The reason he went back with his mother was because Peter, Joe, Cleveland, and Quagmire thought he was being 'too much of a buzzkill' while raising him. So basically, Quagmire is part of the reason he's not raising his kid anymore, yet he still called him out on it during his speech. Quagmire did a good job finding a good home for his daughter until he mentioned he had no problems having sex with her once she turned 18, and during the episode when Peter had to repeat 3rd Grade, saw he had at least three kids in the school. His response was to promptly run away, so no- Brian isn't the failure as a father, Quagmire is. Brian may not be a saint, but he is when you compare what he's done to what Quagmire has done throughout the years. Rebuttal: Personally, I think the speech definitely should have come from someone other than Quagmire (ideally Joe, considering that he's another of the show's Butt Monkies), but the points are legit. Also, just because Brian isn't raising his kid anymore doesn't mean he can't see him, and the point wasn't that Brian wasn't raising his son, but rather that he never saw his son. Although, again, considering Quagmire has a daughter (and, if the almost-a-cutaway gag is to be believe, multiple illegitimate sons), it would have actually made sense coming from someone other than Quagmire. But, let me make it clear: I'm defending the points themselves, not who they were made by. This is coming from Meowth's Toon Dragon himself: When I wrote this story, I was mainly writing it as a way of catharsis after seeing the ending to Quagmire's Dad, an episode I STILL haven't rewatched since then. I am genuinely shocked how well-received its been and the thought of showing it to Seth HAS crossed my mind a few times. Finding it on TV Tropes is another shock and a huge delight, since I'm a big fan of the site. Since then, even with "Tiegs for Two", my opinion on Quagmire has not changed one bit and Brian is still my favorite character. But it seems maybe the writers HAVE come across my story based on what happened at the end of "Quagmire and Meg". Either way..... it's a big honor to know my work is liked and I couldn't be happier to know its made people entertained! Regardless of what you think of it, you have to admit Stewie had one major point: at least Brian tries to improve himself. Faith Toleration by Peach Wookie Recommended by Happy Man Synopsis: A alternative ending for the infamous episode "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven". Comments: If you read this fanfic, you'd wish this was the actual ending of the aforementioned episode. It's wonderfully written, and it's not too long, and offers a much better resolution . Wipe The Slate Clean by Breech Loader Recommended by Harley Quinn hyenaholic Synopsis: Meg hates her family, and she's going to give them what they have coming. It doesn't help that Brian's feeling suicidal. But if there's anywhere you can make a fresh start, it's Mexico - if they can get there alive. Will there be any survivors? Comments: Many fanfics about Meg go on about her getting revenge - but they don't often get this serious, or this bloody, or involve attempted suicides. Working heavily from Meg's experiences in Dial Meg For Murder and acclaimed for its portrayal of Meg going Trigger Happy with a shotgun and killing her family, its portrayal of Brian as being better than canon, and its ability to bring people back from the dead just to have more fun with them. Rumours of the Giant Chicken seeking vengeance are abound, and the question raised in the summary becomes more legitamate with every chapter - will anybody survive? Shipping Fics Stories focused on the romantic relationships between the cast. Coming Out by Howling1 Recommended by Jane Poirot Pairings: Brian/Stewie Synopsis: After the so-called "gay gene" is discovered, Stewie injects Brian with said gay gene in hopes of making Brian fall in love with him. It succeeds in turning Brian gay, but does not make him necessarily love Stewie. Needless to say, it creates complications. Comments: Absolutely brilliant. Done in the exact same style as a Family Guy episode (only, in this troper's opinion, somewhat more smartly written), this fanfic could easily become an actual episode or special movie. Everyone behaves in-character, and it has some of the classic trademarks of Family Guy (random flashbacks with celebrities and an over-the-top subplot), and contains shout-outs to previous characters (for example, Brian's gay cousin Jasper, and even the infamous chicken fight). The overall message of the story, if put into the wrong hands, would have come across as a horribly broken aesop, but the author manages to avoid that and create a well-thought out aesop. Without a doubt, one of the absolute best Family Guy fanfics out there. Second opinion by pimpdaddy . I have to disagree on this one. The chapters are very short, and the fact that they need to fill up a good chunk of each chapter with cut-away gags is pretty obnoxious. More than half of the second chapter was just line for line quotes from various episodes as "flashbacks". It doesn't really seem to stand out as a particularly memorable fan fiction, let alone an example of a great one. Meg's Boyfriend and its sequel Meg's Family, by Malcolm Fox It has its own article Recommended by Happy Man Status: Completed Pairings: Meg/Original Character, Chris/Jillian Synopsis: After being abanoned by Peter, Meg meets a 7 11 Clerk named Zack, they fall in love and a bunch of crazy stuff happens. Comments: One of the best and funniest stories I've ever read, written in episodic format. If you like Meg, and are tired of the treat she gets on the show (and many Family Guy fanfics), you'll like these two great stories. But the author doesn't limit to use just Meg, but practically every Family Guy character, as well as a good bunch of OCs. None of the characters are Out of Character, the Original Characters are far away from being Mary Sues nor spotlight stealers. The author also includes some of Family Guy's most famous gimmicks, like the flashbacks, pop culture references and irreverent humor. Lots of laughs are guaranteed. [add review for Megs Family Series] add review The Spellbook by Ander-Arias It has its own article Recommended by Largo Quagmire Status: Completed Pairings: Meg/Original Character, Brian/Jillian Synopsis: For her eighteenth birthday, Peter, on a last-minute gift-buying trip, buys Meg a spellbook. This spellbook gives Meg magical powers... and things get really crazy really fast, especially after Meg's new boyfriend gets involved. Comments: Although similar to Meg's Boyfriend/Family, The Spellbook has some very interesting conceits. This Troper's personal favorite aspect of The Spellbook is the emphasis on familial love, something that is often neglected in Family Guy in general. This Troper also loves the ridiculous hijinks of Miriam and her sisters, the evil witches who constantly try to steal the spellbook from Meg. [add review for The Spellbook] add review Her Pain by ileana.banana Recommended by Underlord Z Status: Completed Pairings: Meg/Kevin Synopsis: A short one-shot about how Meg has found out that Kevin has died and she feels like her world has fallen apart. Can she accept Kevins death and move on with her life? Comments: An absolutely heart-wrenching piece. Wonderfully written, this not-too-long tale keeps everyone involved nearly-perfectly in-character, offers at least some closure for anyone who wondered if Meg found out Kevin had died.
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JosephWongKS posted:TV Tropes: Academic Resource. man, all those words about Poison and not one of them admits to jerking it to her ill-defined gender over the years
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Why the gently caress do they care so much about Meg
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Seth McFarlane deserves to have tropers send send him their work.
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Burkion posted:Why the gently caress do they care so much about Meg Because she's a Woobie Meganekko something something.
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Burkion posted:Why the gently caress do they care so much about Meg Because Tropers can "relate" to Meg in that they are also a social outcast that nobody likes. But the difference a normal Tropers life is not a cartoon (as much as some of them might wish that were the case) and thus are actually outcasted for a reason. Whereas Meg is only an outcast whenever the writers of the show need an easy joke.
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I like the idea that even in an idealized, artificial world tropers would be outcasts.
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Do not try to read that gay baby Family Guy fanfic. It's badly written even by this thread's standards.
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That's a bit long for a thread title.
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A variant of this occurs in the web erotica Lesbian Land 2250. The protagonist, who recently arrived in the setting, goes to get milk out of the fridge. As she's drinking it, she reads the label that says it's breast milk. Subverted when she doesn't seem to mind, and is in fact turned on by this. And then it's revealed that they regularly have women milked each day, with the milk being delivered all over the city like regular milk delivery.
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corn in the bible posted:A variant of this occurs in the web erotica Lesbian Land 2250. The protagonist, who recently arrived in the setting, goes to get milk out of the fridge. As she's drinking it, she reads the label that says it's breast milk. Subverted when she doesn't seem to mind, and is in fact turned on by this. And then it's revealed that they regularly have women milked each day, with the milk being delivered all over the city like regular milk delivery.
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Don Gato posted:
No that's the thing. They're not saying they're attracted to minors, they're saying they're choosing to pursue minors. It's seriously less creepy to admit you're a pedophile than to say you're an ephebophile, because most pedophiles didn't decide to be one. All ephebophiles chose it.
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"I'm not a pedophile, I'm an EPHEBOPHILE."
"So you're admitting that you are sexually attracted to minors? How the gently caress does a new word make it better, you still want to gently caress someone who isn't mentally mature enough to consider the consequences"
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The latest instance of  whining in the P5 thread, in which a troper wants his Naruto fanfiction featuring underaged sex reinstated.    Highlights include invoking  Lolita more than once to defend this fanfic, writing a lot of  about age of consent technicalities because the main character travels through time and suggesting that "we're concentrating far too hard on ~200 questionable words in a story 125000 words long".
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Nintendo Kid posted:No that's the thing. They're not saying they're attracted to minors, they're saying they're choosing to pursue minors. It's seriously less creepy to admit you're a pedophile than to say you're an ephebophile, because most pedophiles didn't decide to be one. All ephebophiles chose it. We don't need to start ranking which pedophiles are better than other pedophiles, there's enough hatred here for all of them. Ninjasaurus posted:"we're concentrating far too hard on ~200 questionable words in a story 125000 words long". "But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" Isn't Time Braid the one someone (Alien Arcana?) was doing a Let's Read of in the previous thread? I think he stopped after the pedophilia started showing up because ugh.
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Ague Proof posted:Do not try to read that gay baby Family Guy fanfic. It's badly written even by this thread's standards. I will not fall for your Schmuck bait.
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corn in the bible posted:If you're one of those people who's disgusted with Quagmire's hypocrisy in hating Brian when he's just about the last person who has any right to look down on anyone, and for beating a completely ignorant Brian at the end of Quagmire's Dad for something he had absolutely no idea about This should not describe anyone.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Isn't Time Braid the one someone (Alien Arcana?) was doing a Let's Read of in the previous thread? I think he stopped after the pedophilia started showing up because ugh. Yes, and somehow I knew it was going to be the fic in those images before I expanded them. For those that weren't here. It's like Groundhog Day. Except with ninjas that literally start raping other ninjas so they can learn their ninja tricks.
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Razorwired posted:Yes, and somehow I knew it was going to be the fic in those images before I expanded them. So they're like blue mages but instead of getting attacked by the attacks, there's copious amounts of rape?
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Razorwired posted:Yes, and somehow I knew it was going to be the fic in those images before I expanded them. Right, I'd forgotten someone like Lionheart would be idolized by Tropers. We are talking about THAT groundhog day fic right?
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And now for something to take the weight out of this discussion:The Seasonal Rot page posted:There are a lot of fans of Thomas the Tank Engine that have diverse opinions on when the series went downhill:
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BlueDude posted:And now for something to take the weight out of this discussion: Best possible scenario: It's one guy who wrote all that and his repeated use of the phrase "a lot of fans" really just means him. Please let this be the case.
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BlueDude posted:And now for something to take the weight out of this discussion: OK like, I'm a huge loving nerd. I watch Power Rangers and Ultraman and Kamen Rider and Doctor Who and Are You Afraid of the Dark and Goosebumps and Just Jesus CHRIST That guy is a nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd
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Burkion posted:OK like, I'm a huge loving nerd. Thing is, those shows generally have something that can keep parents' attention (excluding Doctor Who, which was more of a family show anyway). I sincerely doubt that anyone in the working world cares about Thomas the Tank Engine. (Now I'm wondering if this guy makes Pooh's Adventures videos...)
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Isn't Thomas the Tank Engine one of those shows that is bizarrely popular among people who are legit autistic?
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Ninjasaurus posted:Best possible scenario: It's one guy who wrote all that and his repeated use of the phrase "a lot of fans" really just means him. Don't get your hopes up. Thinky Whale posted:Isn't Thomas the Tank Engine one of those shows that is bizarrely popular among people who are legit autistic? Trains are really big with autistic people. I have autism and I've never seen the appeal, personally. It's kind of a stereotype, but there are legitimate things about trains and railroads that appeal to that audience.
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BlueDude posted:And now for something to take the weight out of this discussion:  "inaccuracies to the story mythos"
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Speaking of people caring way too loving much about cartoons (warning: really, really long):"The Mysterious Mr. Enter" (actual name) posted:* "The Reason You Suck" Speech: Plenty of them. Click to read more (For the record: originally, most of this is hidden until you click the words "click to see more". Clearly, someone knows this bullshit needs to be stuffed out of sight.)
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