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Valicious posted:but don't you get to order your own triggers?
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Mezzanon posted:Does anybody have that video of guys playing rip n' flip with an Italian legends booster and the first card he hits is mana drain? Because that video convinced me to never even try rip n' flip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dD8mWy1ty8
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Sep 18, 2014 07:43
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So, rip and flip is how complete fools with too much money decide to wave it in the faces of the proles? Because that is what it sounds like. Looking forward to the inevitable "It's my money I can spend it how i want" comeback.
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Sep 18, 2014 08:44
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Veyrall posted:So, rip and flip is how complete fools with too much money decide to wave it in the faces of the proles? Because that is what it sounds like. It is their money, and they can spend it however they want to. But they are still massive twats for spending it this way though, and you should feel free to judge them for it, and say they are poo poo, because they are. See, it works both ways!
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Sep 18, 2014 08:52
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I've only recently started playing Magic, mostly online, and Khans will be the first release I get to experience as a player. Can't help but be excited, but I had been looking to play some of the online pre-release events, and it seems like it might be moderately expensive based on the amount of cards you get out of it. Does anyone know what kind of ticket price can I expect to pay for Khans boosters, when they're available on MTGO via traders? The price Wizards offer for the pre-release (20 tickets) is fair I guess compared to their store booster price, and you get to play with the cards a bit early, but for $20/20 tickets you could obviously get a fair amount of boosters for limited draft post-release, or just singles (I know this is massively more cost efficient!). For M15 packs it seems like 2 tickets is about the average (though I've seen them for 1.25). Not really looking to open them, just to play Limited. I assume that if I were going to a paper pre-release I'd just be paying for the boosters themselves (maybe with some small buy-in?). Probably not an option though since there's no stores that near to me here in the UK 
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Sep 18, 2014 11:33
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Where are you that you don't have a store in the UK? And with a paper prerelease, you normally pay around £25, but you're gettijg 5 boosters plus seeded pack (retail rrp around £21 there) plus normally you should get prize boosters too. If I do 1 event, 25 gets me my sealed pool (5 boosters plus seeded pack), a soft drink. a pack of ultra pros, and then at least 2 prize packs for entry, plus 1 additional prize pack per win. Plus, my LGS will discount entry of you're doing multiple. I essentially got my 4th free. (and I still get the sleeves each time etc.)
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Sep 18, 2014 12:10
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mehall posted:Where are you that you don't have a store in the UK? In my experience, this narrows it down to literally anywhere outside London or Manchester. 
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Sep 18, 2014 12:39
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I pretty much offer to pay a portion of a pack when I am working. This enables me to be the "ripper." So, the other person is gambling to get the good cards of a pack at a discount. I do this once a night out of boredom. It usually draws a crowd and leads to tons of pack sales afterword's.
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Sep 18, 2014 12:42
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Sleep of Bronze posted:In my experience, this narrows it down to literally anywhere outside London or Manchester. In Scotland, I am aware of shops in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Falkirk, maybe Stirling, and a couple smaller ones around Glasgow areas too. I think Liverpool also has a store, though I don't know how much of a one, given that the guys running GP Liverpool are the guys who run GP Manchester IIRC.
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Sep 18, 2014 13:06
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Vital Signs posted:
Not only is Bob dead, but so are my tables.
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Sep 18, 2014 13:12
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Sleep of Bronze posted:In my experience, this narrows it down to literally anywhere outside London or Manchester. Sheffield has two decent stores!
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Sep 18, 2014 13:15
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Sleep of Bronze posted:In my experience, this narrows it down to literally anywhere outside London or Manchester. Pretty much. I live in Coventry and the magic scene here is pretty dire, though the one is Warwick is very good and I went with the crowd there to GP Manchester. Great bunch of people.
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Sep 18, 2014 13:27
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Yeah I'm a bit outside London and in the stix, so the only small hobbyist stores are an hour or so away, and they're not all doing events. At that point I might as well get on a train  Not quite dedicated/non-terrible enough for that yet, maybe next year.
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Sep 18, 2014 13:47
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Snacksmaniac posted:Not only is Bob dead, but so are my tables. Requesting this as a new MTG thread name
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Sep 18, 2014 14:12
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Valicious posted:Just double checking- Valicious posted:but don't you get to order your own triggers? If you had Jeskai Ascendancy and Quiet Contemplation in play and you cast Divination, they both trigger and you get to decide which order the triggers are place on the stack in. But they're both placed on the stack above Divination and they both have to leave the stack before Divination gets a chance to resolve.
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Sep 18, 2014 14:15
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Mezzanon posted:Does anybody have that video of guys playing rip n' flip with an Italian legends booster and the first card he hits is mana drain? Because that video convinced me to never even try rip n' flip. But that's exactly why you play flip it & rip it. And the vast majority of packs are poo poo. It's exactly for those couple of times someone gets a foil skrillex and rips it. Nobody ever remembers the vast majority of poo poo rares that were opened and people didn't decry the wasted money. If anything, whine that the pack wasn't used in a draft, not that it was used to add excitement to a boring scratch ticket. From my experience it's a spectacle tends to draw a crowd and causes pack sales. Just like pack wars. It helps support the store's legalized gambling to minors if nothing else. I support it for this very reason and because it's incredibly funny when someone gets a $50+ piece of cardboard ripped. E:So, rip and flip is how complete fools with too much money decide to wave it in the faces of the proles? Because that is what it sounds like. But this is already what you do when you decide to play wizard poker so I don't see the difference. You are literally setting money on fireballs when you play.
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Sep 18, 2014 14:44
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Harmonica posted:Yeah I'm a bit outside London and in the stix, so the only small hobbyist stores are an hour or so away, and they're not all doing events. At that point I might as well get on a train I find it hard to believe there's absolutely nowhere you can travel to in range. Have you looked on http://locator.wizards.com/ I mean gently caress, the Bristol MTG scene is sorta garbage for such a big city and we still have ~8 prereleases over 3 stores.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:13
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Chill la Chill posted:You are literally setting money on fireballs when you play. Someone make a fireball alter that's just a flaming wad of cash. And change the flavor text to "Not actually a metaphor."
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Sep 18, 2014 15:17
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Count Bleck posted:Someone make a fireball alter that's just a flaming wad of cash. And change the flavor text to "Not actually a metaphor." New version of Magic: Play a match and the loser has to set fire to their deck. Everything is legal.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:19
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And here I was worried that my LGS running pack wars might be falling afoul of gambling laws.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:22
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Chill la Chill posted:But this is already what you do when you decide to play wizard poker so I don't see the difference. You are literally setting money on fireballs when you play. Except the cards are durable goods with guaranteed value? I know I'm going to get X months of standard play out of my expensive pieces of cardboard. People doing poo poo like this is crazy, because it implies that they will sacrifice value in exchange for an at-best mediocre story. Would you sit down at a blackjack table if, when you won, it spat a hundred dollar bill into a fire? I guess if you're an owner and it actually drives sales that's neat, but it's still incredibly weird.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:22
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The problem with straight Rip It & Flip It is the same problem as opening packs instead of drafting with them. Why not play a game with your packs? Both players have a deck of any format and a booster pack. They both open their packs face-down and shuffle them. This is their life total; they start with 15 life instead of 20. Every life they lose they have to rip a card. If someone gains life, they have to get another booster pack, open it up face-down and shuffle it, then add that many cards to their main life total. There, now you get the thrill of ripping up cards with the value of having played a game while doing so!
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Sep 18, 2014 15:24
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Count Bleck posted:Requesting this as a new MTG thread name Magic: The Gathering: The Megathread: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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Sep 18, 2014 15:26
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Samael posted:New version of Magic: Play a match and the loser has to set fire to their deck. Everything is legal. I forget exactly how, but using un-set cards there's a way to turn every card into a blacker lotus and rip up your opponents deck using mind slaver.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:34
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Personally I am all for flippo rippo or whatever. In fact, I am offering a service to make your flaporup much more convenient - for the low price of postage to my house, you can send me all the cards you were going to rip and instead I will rip them for you! Please do not ask for pictures
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Sep 18, 2014 15:35
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HMS Boromir posted:Personally I am all for flippo rippo or whatever. In fact, I am offering a service to make your flaporup much more convenient - for the low price of postage to my house, you can send me all the cards you were going to rip and instead I will rip them for you! Please do not ask for pictures I have 5,000 cards that need ripped. Send me about $30 for postage, and you can rip them and not show me any pictures.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:49
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Flip or Rip looks like tons of fun, I'll have to play it sometime. About as fun, and retarded, as burning money.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:51
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Count Bleck posted:Someone make a fireball alter that's just a flaming wad of cash. And change the flavor text to "Not actually a metaphor." Entropic posted:And here I was worried that my LGS running pack wars might be falling afoul of gambling laws. Yeah it's weird how it toes the line. I know of a couple stores that survive on it. It covers up for people like me who only draft occasionally and sit on store credit from constructed tournaments to essentially play for free and cash out for toys every now and then.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:52
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mcmagic posted:About as fun, and retarded, as burning money. Playing Flip or Rip with 1 pack of Theros will waste less money than opening 3 packs of Theros, and people go through boxes of Theros, and at least this gets entertainment value. On the scale of dumb things to do with a pack, this is worse than just playing Limited but still more entertaining than just cracking the packs and rifling through to see the rare.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:57
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Any store that is surviving on flip or rip is a store that should probably go out of business
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Sep 18, 2014 15:59
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You guys care way to loving much about flip it or rip it.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:01
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Playing Flip or Rip with 1 pack of Theros will waste less money than opening 3 packs of Theros, and people go through boxes of Theros, and at least this gets entertainment value. On the scale of dumb things to do with a pack, this is worse than just playing Limited but still more entertaining than just cracking the packs and rifling through to see the rare. No it's not. It's MUCH better to crack it and look for a rare. What the hell is wrong with people? This is just being destructive for the sake of being destructive. There are kids at my store who want to play Magic but can't afford to buy cards. If I saw someone ripping up cards in front of them I would slap them.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:02
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jassi007 posted:You guys care way to loving much about flip it or rip it. This. I only give a poo poo if people start ripping my cards. I've seen too many people spend too much on dumber things.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:04
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jassi007 posted:You guys care way to loving much about flip it or rip it. It's one of those things that I can't be completely against ... I've done stupid poo poo like that, including: Eating a Dissipate in front of my opponent (I drafted it, and he was running blue so I was trying ... to mind trick him? I don't know, I was like 17). Taking a sharpie to all of my white bordered Birds of Paradise (I had a lot, I got good at it). ... and probably a number of other things people would go WTF at me for.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:05
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It would just stop being a thing if people stopped giving a gently caress. But nope its always HOW COULD YOU DO THAT! and just like Alfred told Master Bruce "Some men just want to see the world burn."
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Sep 18, 2014 16:05
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En Fuego posted:It's one of those things that I can't be completely against ... I've done stupid poo poo like that, including: I'm not for it or against it. I nothing it. It is attention seeking.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:06
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mcmagic posted:No it's not. It's MUCH better to crack it and look for a rare. What the hell is wrong with people? This is just being destructive for the sake of being destructive. There are kids at my store who want to play Magic but can't afford to buy cards. If I saw someone ripping up cards in front of them I would slap them. You are being a big man baby. If something that silly triggers you, seek help.
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Sep 18, 2014 16:07
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mcmagic posted:No it's not. It's MUCH better to crack it and look for a rare. What the hell is wrong with people? This is just being destructive for the sake of being destructive. There are kids at my store who want to play Magic but can't afford to buy cards. If I saw someone ripping up cards in front of them I would slap them. When you stop paying attention to people who do things to get attention "Watch me rip up these magic cards maybe I'll rip up something good!" then they'll stop engaging in attention seeking behavior. Source: My 3 year old does the same poo poo. Just last week he ripped a foil 'Goyf. :P
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Sep 18, 2014 16:10
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just just give them to like a 12 year old. you'll probably make his day. jesus
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HMS Boromir posted:just This.
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