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JediTalentAgent posted:God, is JJJ going to become Ultimate Punisher? I would rather us see Ultimate Iron Jonah.
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Exit Strategy posted:J. Jonah Jameson: Delivering the news 158 grains at a time. God, that is a fantastic custom title waiting to happen.
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Cabbit posted:God, that is a fantastic custom title waiting to happen. Fuuuuck, I don't get paid until tomorrow!
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So over in the Avenger's thread people wer talking about how great Baron Zemo's portrayal was in Avengers Undercover (that's the sequel series to Avengers Arena, a series that many people hated because it punched them in the kidneys.) And it was pretty good. Zemo was an OG in this one, sporting a slightly redesigned look (which is pretty full on Fascistic it must be said) but being really compatnent and having an overall goal that wasn't just rule the world but more "smash the system!" He also managed to salvage a lot by the end of the system. Anyway, I loved this moment from Avengers Undercover #4.   There's a lot to love there, not just that cool speach or how Zemo has his dinner table surrounded with Gold Bullion, just cause. But my favourite part is where the smart alecy teen heroes try pulling a "what you want us to be super villains and rob banks, that's so lame and old. You're old MAN!" Zemo is completely sincere and honest that they don't have to join his bank robbing or Moon Base divisions. It's the notions that Zemo 100% un-ironically has a Moon Base with a Death Laser, like that's just an expected part of your operation.
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The Question IRL posted:
No, Zemo is trying to recruit the young. By cornering the world market of Twinkies.
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Wow, I really ahted the first two issues and dropped it, but those are some good pages.
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The Question IRL posted:Zemo is completely sincere and honest that they don't have to join his bank robbing or Moon Base divisions. It's the notions that Zemo 100% un-ironically has a Moon Base with a Death Laser, like that's just an expected part of your operation. Who handles moon real estate? SWORD?
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:No, Zemo is trying to recruit the young. Spoiler warning. The series ends with a joint task force of Avengers and SHIELD invading his fortress. But this is a part of Zemo's plan. He defeats the army by unleashing his supplies of Hostess Fruit Pies. Honestly, it's a thing of beauty to read.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Who handles moon real estate? SWORD? I imagine some funny jurisdictional issues that could break out over this ala the FBI and CIA. SWORD Agent 1: Hey HYDRA are building a Death Ray on the Moon, we should do something! SWORD Agent 2: Forget about it. None of them are aliens, so it's not our job. Just let SHIELD know about it. (Meanwhile.) SHIELD Agent 1: Hey HYDRA are building a Death Ray on the Moon, we should do something! SHIELD Agent 2: Forget about it. They aren't on Earth, they are in space, so it's not our job. Just let SWORD know about it.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Who handles moon real estate? SWORD? You phone the Inhumans and tell them they have an infestation.
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As the Watcher just sits there watching doing nothing about the assholes ruining his property value.
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Alas, 'tis the Watcher's pledge not to interfere with the housing market.
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I love the idea because it means that it is entirely possible that zemo is next door neighbours with Dracula (who doesnt have a moon laser, instead he has a cannon for shooting vampires at Britain from the moon). Man, the moon would have the most hosed up neighbourhood watch meetings.
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SiKboy posted:I love the idea because it means that it is entirely possible that zemo is next door neighbours with Dracula (who doesnt have a moon laser, instead he has a cannon for shooting vampires at Britain from the moon). Man, the moon would have the most hosed up neighbourhood watch meetings. Uatu is all over this. Well, was.
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When I was a teenager I remember reading a series of X-Men prose novels called the Chaos Engine Trilogy. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2721795-x-men The plot basically had the X-Men fighting a different villain who uses the Cosmic Cube to take over the Earth. (It starts with Dr. Doom in charge, Magneto swipes the Cube from him, then the Red Skull gets it for the third book.) I remember reading an extended section where the Red Skull is chilling on his Moonbase waiting to make his move and he basically details all the difficulties in running and crewing a moonbase and how he has to pay the men really high salaries just to get people willing to live in the Moonbase.
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Lurdiak posted:Alas, 'tis the Watcher's pledge not to interfere with the housing market. This is the line he keeps feeding his wife for why he won't replace the kitchen countertops with nice new granite ones 
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Majuju posted:This is the line he keeps feeding his wife for why he won't replace the kitchen countertops with nice new granite ones Right now he is using the excuse he cant see the difference between the two.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Uatu is all over this. Well, was. He has to abstain from all votes, though. Courteously.
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Endless Mike posted:He has to abstain from all votes, though. Courteously. This is not a thread I expected to see a 1776 reference in.
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Sefer posted:This is not a thread I expected to see a 1776 reference in.
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Endless Mike posted:No one is more badass than John Adams. Mr. Feeny 
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The Question IRL posted:When I was a teenager I remember reading a series of X-Men prose novels called the Chaos Engine Trilogy. On the one hand, I get that what's basically life in a submarine is rough, but on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that a shitload of people would loving jump at the opportunity to live on the moon. That could practically be HYDRA's recruitment pitch: "Join us, and you get to go to the moon!" I mean, I know I'd sure be tempted.
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bobkatt013 posted:Mr. Feeny KITT 
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The Lord of Hats posted:On the one hand, I get that what's basically life in a submarine is rough, but on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that a shitload of people would loving jump at the opportunity to live on the moon. That could practically be HYDRA's recruitment pitch: "Join us, and you get to go to the moon!" I mean, I know I'd sure be tempted. A free apartment on the moon? gently caress yeah, I'll join whatever evil thing you want just show me where to sign.
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drat it, that panel just begs the question, "Have they ever tried using the Moon Laser to rob a bank?"
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Captain Bravo posted:drat it, that panel just begs the question, "Have they ever tried using the Moon Laser to rob a bank?" How do you think he paid off the invoice on the Moon Laser?
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I'd rather see a reverse Chairface Chippendale, use your Super Moon Laser to scorch your name into the Earth. Larger writing area, plus can be a level 1 invasion deterrant. Today, we, the Skrull empire, shall invade the puny planet Earth. Commander! Look at this! Let me see..."Property of Baron Zemo"...gently caress, that's clever. OK, pack it in boys! Someone already laid claim to this planet.
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The Question IRL posted:So over in the Avenger's thread people wer talking about how great Baron Zemo's portrayal was in Avengers Undercover (that's the sequel series to Avengers Arena, a series that many people hated because it punched them in the kidneys.) Well, I'll be picking this up now. The last time I read Zemo he was going on a character building trip through time. Looks like he learned something. That said, this is comics and every single goddamn time someone has extended their hand to a group of young, superpowered people saying, "I just want to make the world better. Help me." things have gone to poo poo in less than half a dozen books when it turns out they're actually making some deadly virus or have planted nukes or some poo poo. I really want to see a book explore what the world looks like when you work for a supervillain who genuinely believes he's out to do good and things don't immediately turn to poo poo.
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Tracula posted:Has there ever been a time that JJJ hasn't been a complete badass and the #1 best thing about Spider Man? The one thing I've always wanted to see from a DC/Marvel crossover is JJJ hanging out with Gorden and Alfred. Bonus points if, in an ironic twist, he ends up becoming a die-hard Batman supporter in his rookie years, leaving Spider-man going "WTF? Seriously?"
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It's also such a great take on Zemo, because it plays perfectly into his fascist roots. The co-opted Nietzsche philosophy of "We are demonstrably better than everyone else, therefore we're the ubermensch, and we can do whatever the goddamned hell we want." His line about "evil" is perfect. He sees everyone else as lesser beings, therefore he doesn't really give a gently caress what they call him, it doesn't matter. He simply provides an avenue for exceptional people to do what they want. And what they want just coincidentally happens to involve a lot of bank-robbin' and moon-laserin'.
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For the first time ever, I am thinking about the logistics of a moon laser. Just the aiming of it. Like, you can't really use it for supervillainy while it is on the dark side, which is half of the year.
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smashpro1 posted:For the first time ever, I am thinking about the logistics of a moon laser. Just the aiming of it. Like, you can't really use it for supervillainy while it is on the dark side, which is half of the year. The same side of the moon is always facing the earth. Also, there is no dark side in the moon, really. As a matter of fact it's all dark.
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smashpro1 posted:For the first time ever, I am thinking about the logistics of a moon laser. Just the aiming of it. Like, you can't really use it for supervillainy while it is on the dark side, which is half of the year.
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SiKboy posted:I love the idea because it means that it is entirely possible that zemo is next door neighbours with Dracula (who doesnt have a moon laser, instead he has a cannon for shooting vampires at Britain from the moon). Man, the moon would have the most hosed up neighbourhood watch meetings. If somebody's got the vampire-cannon pages available, please post them. That was an awesome storyline.
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SiKboy posted:I love the idea because it means that it is entirely possible that zemo is next door neighbours with Dracula (who doesnt have a moon laser, instead he has a cannon for shooting vampires at Britain from the moon). Man, the moon would have the most hosed up neighbourhood watch meetings. The all complain about Uatu watching them and the rest of their families.
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smashpro1 posted:For the first time ever, I am thinking about the logistics of a moon laser. Just the aiming of it. Like, you can't really use it for supervillainy while it is on the dark side, which is half of the year. Look, you don't really need to aim a moon laser. Just shoot it anywhere, blow up some random part of Antarctica and pretend that's where you were aiming the whole time. You just need to let people know you have one and then the rest is bluffing your rear end off.
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smashpro1 posted:For the first time ever, I am thinking about the logistics of a moon laser. Just the aiming of it. Like, you can't really use it for supervillainy while it is on the dark side, which is half of the year. The first story arc in the G.I. Joe comic from IDW had Cobra creating a teleport system (like the cartoon!), which included a base on the moon. But luckily, the Joes managed to destroy Cobra's equipment, once and for all! And the issue ended with a shot of the moon's surface, and of Cobra personnel etching the words "Help Us" in the dust.
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Davros1 posted:The first story arc in the G.I. Joe comic from IDW had Cobra creating a teleport system (like the cartoon!), which included a base on the moon. But luckily, the Joes managed to destroy Cobra's equipment, once and for all!  That is some grim poo poo.
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Do villains pay henchmen based on what superhero they're likely to encounter? Like, nobody really wants to fight Spider-man, but mostly he's going to make fun of you and then web you to a telephone pole. On the other hand, if your boss is planning to piss off Frank Castle, he'd better be putting your kids through goddamn Harverd.
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CzarChasm posted:I'd rather see a reverse Chairface Chippendale, use your Super Moon Laser to scorch your name into the Earth. Larger writing area, plus can be a level 1 invasion deterrant. You don't need a laser for that, just a poo poo load of dynamite and a hatred toward NASA.  (from somewhere in Preacher. I'd get an issue number and more pages, but random Google searches on my phone are making that difficult.)
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