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fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

sportsgenius86 posted:

I'd bet anything Felice Herrig was given pretty good instruction to do exactly what she's doing by Dana White.

If you'd ever seen Felice Herrig before this you'd be well aware that nobody needs to instruct her to do any of this.

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A Keg
Jan 7, 2014

by Ralp
I hope there are some good house pranks this season, so I can learn how girls like to prank and protect my home against girlpranks

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

02-6611-0142-1 posted:

Is Felice Herrig a real person or an elaborate troll? It's hard to tell, but either way I hope she dies

I grew up near where she's from and she's basically 90% of the girls I went to high school with. That part of the midwest still has that sort of farmboy malegaze culture that rewards attention-seeking behavior in girls. She was probably pretty popular with certain types of guys in high school and never outgrew the behavior because it makes her money now.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

I grew up near where she's from and she's basically 90% of the girls I went to high school with. That part of the midwest still has that sort of farmboy malegaze culture that rewards attention-seeking behavior in girls. She was probably pretty popular with certain types of guys in high school and never outgrew the behavior because it makes her money now.

what

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

02-6611-0142-1 posted:

Is Felice Herrig a real person or an elaborate troll? It's hard to tell, but either way I hope she dies

http://fatworld.wikia.com/wiki/Felice_Herrig

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

Farmboy male gaze culture, broseph. I take it you haven't been to college in the last five years.

handsome only face
Apr 22, 2010

Cockroach went out of the room in anger. And roach's go to empty room...

Cockroache's Anarchist



what in the world

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

The predominant attitude amongst young men around here is to "dare" young women to do various things for their amusement. Because the girls don't really experience any other kind of treatment, they start to internalize the idea that they basically exist to be a performance animal for the boys' amusement. Sometimes, the boys get bored of a girl and she starts doing more and more ridiculous, look-at-me stuff to try to recapture the attention. The behavior is an awful lot like Felice's. I imagine that she continues to act that way because she started to make money off of it which only reinforces the behavior.

I apologize if the word "malegaze" is too tumblr for these parts or something, but I thought it was a succinct way to compact that idea. Felice Herrig acts like she does because she has been trained by local culture to think of herself as an nothing more than an object of entertainment for the men around her and her behavior is further magnified by the wider audience she is expanded to with her current employment.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:
Is this real life? Just be happy that she promotes attention to the show and then will get beaten to a pulp by one of the really cool and talented fighters. She's doing exactly what she's known for and the UFC is happy about it.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

Trast posted:

Is this real life? Just be happy that she promotes attention to the show and then will get beaten to a pulp by one of the really cool and talented fighters. She's doing exactly what she's known for and the UFC is happy about it.

No argument here. People were just wondering if she was some kind of anomaly or if there's real people that act that way. I used way too many words to say "yes, but they usually stop after they graduate from high school and move somewhere where they're treated better".

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Felice Herrig in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQazwjdZgzg

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I don't see how everyone is being so weird about someone who's basically female Tom Lawlor.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I don't remember Felice acting like this on Fight Girls, but that show had been mostly repressed from my memory.

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

I've just remembered that all humans die, and I am reassured

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005

kimbo305 posted:

I don't remember Felice acting like this on Fight Girls, but that show had been mostly repressed from my memory.

That's because Master Toddy trained the following fighters:

Kevin Ross
Kit Cope
Gina Carano
Phil Baroni
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Stephan Bonnar
Bob Sapp
Rod Aumentado
Chuck Lidell
Jason David Frank

He wouldn't put up w/ attention seeking bullshit for 2 seconds.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

Dead Snoopy posted:

That's because Master Toddy trained the following fighters:

Kevin Ross
Kit Cope
Gina Carano
Phil Baroni
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Stephan Bonnar
Bob Sapp
Rod Aumentado
Chuck Lidell
Jason David Frank

He wouldn't put up w/ attention seeking bullshit for 2 seconds.

I wonder what it's like to train Chuck. I feel like you could give him full breakdowns of what he needed to do for five straight years and never see a reaction. Just punches and chuckstare.gif

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Chuck would nod and stare at the horizon like he could see an arm of 10,000 ninja hiding just out of sight and he would not give 2 fucks while Toddy told him to run the drill again.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Dead Snoopy posted:

That's because Master Toddy trained the following fighters:

Kevin Ross
Kit Cope
Gina Carano
Phil Baroni
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Stephan Bonnar
Bob Sapp
Rod Aumentado
Chuck Lidell
Jason David Frank

He wouldn't put up w/ attention seeking bullshit for 2 seconds.

Jason David Frank broke a meaningless world record previously held by a disabled guy to prove that you can do anything you put your mind to, I do not approve of your list.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
In an interesting parallel, Fight Girls had Brandon Vera's wife, Kerry, on it.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Keith Mars posted:

Pettis with the "women are emotional :confused:" line to excuse his bad coaching, instead of accepting his team's feedback that they are indeed being overcoached. Gilbert seems way more chill to train under.

That was pretty brutal. The entire team wanted to voice their displeasure at having too many cooks and he's like "ok hey if you don't want to be coached, take it or leave it"

e: Although kudos to him for spotting that one girl was upset during training and jumping on it immediately

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
Keep in mind it's all cut and that was one sentence out of a probably half hour conversation.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Lot of drama in the house based on various twitter stuff.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

mewse posted:

That was pretty brutal. The entire team wanted to voice their displeasure at having too many cooks and he's like "ok hey if you don't want to be coached, take it or leave it"

e: Although kudos to him for spotting that one girl was upset during training and jumping on it immediately

yeah pettis has good intentions but whoever mentioned that naturally gifted athletes don't understand the hard working kind seems pretty loving spot on.

also, i think i'm slightly in love with jojo, like any right-thinking man

mewse
May 2, 2006

Marching Powder posted:

also, i think i'm slightly in love with jojo, like any right-thinking man

I called dibs already

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich
can we please not do this

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Dibs on Sergio

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Fat Twitter Man posted:

can we please not do this

well shogun is married and arona is not a relationship kind of guy so

Gregor Samsa
Sep 5, 2007
Nietzsche's Mustache

Fat Twitter Man posted:

can we please not do this

Why is it ok when it's Mark hunt you bigot

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

omg chael crash posted:

Dibs on Sergio

K I S S I N G

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?

Gregor Samsa posted:

Why is it ok when it's Mark hunt you bigot

The horrific effects of malegayze.

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I'm going to make a handsome MMA fighter effort thread but only if fatherdog promises to give it this tag:

mewse
May 2, 2006

Calling dibs on Mike Ricci as well

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006
I want JoJo to have a long ufc career because, much like Hunto, I like listening to her talk. For the other business, this is the internet. No need for imagination, that takes too much effort.

double negative
Jul 7, 2003


All I know is that Jojo vs. Rose is a fight that I need in my life immediately. The other side of the bracket is less interesting to me, although I do want to see what Angela Hill has for Esparza.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Marching Powder posted:

yeah pettis has good intentions but whoever mentioned that naturally gifted athletes don't understand the hard working kind seems pretty loving spot on.

also, i think i'm slightly in love with jojo, like any right-thinking man

I didn't get that from what he was saying. I think I agreed with the women being annoyed at the constant corrections from staff rotating through while coaching. It's really annoying when you're trying to focus on something and you keep getting stopped to add something to it or something else, but the other thing is Roufus and co and perfectionists when it comes to striking and most of these women are incredibly bad with their head movement, footwork and technique in general.

Don't get me wrong, some of them have a talent for it, but most of them are incredibly average for professional fighters. The coaches are picking a lot to work on because there is a lot to work on. They're right though, stopping every ten seconds isn't going to correct the faults, just cause frustration.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

BlindSite posted:

I didn't get that from what he was saying. I think I agreed with the women being annoyed at the constant corrections from staff rotating through while coaching. It's really annoying when you're trying to focus on something and you keep getting stopped to add something to it or something else, but the other thing is Roufus and co and perfectionists when it comes to striking and most of these women are incredibly bad with their head movement, footwork and technique in general.

Don't get me wrong, some of them have a talent for it, but most of them are incredibly average for professional fighters. The coaches are picking a lot to work on because there is a lot to work on. They're right though, stopping every ten seconds isn't going to correct the faults, just cause frustration.

As my new Muay Thai coach says, "I could correct you on twenty things at a time or work on one thing. It's better to work on one."

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

BlindSite posted:

I didn't get that from what he was saying. I think I agreed with the women being annoyed at the constant corrections from staff rotating through while coaching. It's really annoying when you're trying to focus on something and you keep getting stopped to add something to it or something else, but the other thing is Roufus and co and perfectionists when it comes to striking and most of these women are incredibly bad with their head movement, footwork and technique in general.

Don't get me wrong, some of them have a talent for it, but most of them are incredibly average for professional fighters. The coaches are picking a lot to work on because there is a lot to work on. They're right though, stopping every ten seconds isn't going to correct the faults, just cause frustration.

Duke doesn't know how to pick one thing. When I first started kickboxing I trained at his gym in Milwaukee. Sometimes he'd swing by the beginners classes just to chat with the coach and scope folks out. He would unavoidably zero in on somebody and just overwhelm them with advice. He'd hit up someone who had literally been kickboxing for a week and just jaw about tiny details they'd never understand like "you're up on your toes, but the wrong way, the pressure should be just so" or not having their shoulder in the right spot to cover their chin during a jab-cross when they hadn't really even learned to jab at all yet.

He is a guy who definitely can take the top talent to new heights, but he's just on such a high level striking-wise that he can't even really relate to people who aren't at least competent strikers already when it comes to coaching. It's like a phd linguist who researches dead languages trying to help a high school student practice conversational Spanish.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb
I honestly feel like PSP could put together a good guide for coaches about how to do their job well.

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
1. Be Chael Sonnen

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Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
That's not how you spell Matt Serra

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