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Sickening posted:Would that have been a 30$ launch mythic? I can't imagine Empty the Pits at XBB with Delve would have been good for Legacy, Vintage or Modern given that there's a Dredgeable black-mana producing land (not to mention Dark Ritual). Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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JerryLee posted:Was this footnote in the article before Forsythe commented? Because if so, lmbo. Yes.
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Sep 19, 2014 18:41
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Sickening posted:Would that have been a 30$ launch mythic? If Aurelia's Fury can be a $30 launch mythic, anything can.
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I mean, Aurelia's fury is the most efficient "pay X to fling damage around" of any of them (except I guess Miracle Bonfire, but Miracles...) and it can also be Glimpse the Sun god if that's what you need?
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kingcobweb posted:I don't post these in the thread every week any more, but I reviewed Onslaught block and I'm extraordinarily proud of the section on Scourge. The Scourge section is fantastic, though I would have liked to have heard a bit more about Storm. Keep making these articles, they're great reads.
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Sep 19, 2014 18:47
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That's all well and good but it ain't no fuckin 30 dollar card.
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Nemico posted:If Aurelia's Fury can be a $30 launch mythic, anything can. This was the greatest thing ever  That rear end in a top hat I talked about a few pages earlier was CERTAIN this was going to be THE CARD for Standard and he traded me his Obzedats for it. A week later he confronted me trying to demand that we reverse the deal because his end was now bulk. Buyer beware, dude.
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Sep 19, 2014 19:29
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There was one guy at my store who did pretty well for a while playing UWR exlixir control with Aurelia's Fury as a finisher. I'm always sad at rotation for cool cards that never found a home, and Gatecrash seemed to have a bunch of them. So long, Firemane Avenger, Master Biomancer, we hardly knew ye.
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Sep 19, 2014 19:33
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Entropic posted:There was one guy at my store who did pretty well for a while playing UWR exlixir control with Aurelia's Fury as a finisher. I hate when I pick up a bunch of bulk rares hoping they'll get some play, and they never do. Speaking of, what Khans bulk rares should I get a hundred of? Or Theros block sleepers, that'll do too.
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Sep 19, 2014 19:39
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BJPaskoff posted:I hate when I pick up a bunch of bulk rares hoping they'll get some play, and they never do. Daring Thief. Grant Theft Ashiok isn't just for Theros block anymore. 
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BJPaskoff posted:I hate when I pick up a bunch of bulk rares hoping they'll get some play, and they never do. Sagu Mauler! I hope. Maybe some of the Ascendancies. Everything that's indisputably good is at like 5 dollars to start with.
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Sep 19, 2014 19:50
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Steam augury, only because I already have a fat stack that I want to buylist
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Sep 19, 2014 20:03
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I'm going to go on record as saying I think Surrak Dragonclaw is way overpriced pre-ordering for $8 - $12 on most sites. I wish there was an easy way to short magic cards.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:27
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Entropic posted:There was one guy at my store who did pretty well for a while playing UWR exlixir control with Aurelia's Fury as a finisher. Master Biomancer is basically kitchen table gold
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Sep 19, 2014 20:28
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Zorak posted:Master Biomancer is basically kitchen table gold So's Progenitor Mimic. The one time I ran it in a Simic deck I was trying out, I copied someone's Master of Waves with it, and it was glorious.
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Just looked at that Paulo sealed review and holy hell is he ever overestimating the amount of playable Delve cards a sealed pool is going to have.
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Entropic posted:So's Progenitor Mimic. The one time I ran it in a Simic deck I was trying out, I copied someone's Master of Waves with it, and it was glorious. Oh hell yeah. My casual standard deck this last go around was Simic Masters with Master of Waves and Master Biomancer. "No. My tokens don't die when you kill MoW. Sorry, bro." It is also fun attacking with 8/8 Kiora's Followers and 8/10 Coursers of Kruphix.
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AlternateNu posted:Oh hell yeah. My casual standard deck this last go around was Simic Masters with Master of Waves and Master Biomancer. "No. My tokens don't die when you kill MoW. Sorry, bro." It is also fun attacking with 8/8 Kiora's Followers and 8/10 Coursers of Kruphix. Supreme Verdict 
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One thing I want everyone to recognize right now, Sphinx's Revelation, does not have a plane specific name, meaning it will be VERY easy to reprint it in a later set. All the set needs to have is a Sphinx/Sphinxes and BOOM, Revelation is back baby. Hopefully, it will be back soon, as I know I am not the only one who will sorely miss it.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:This was the greatest thing ever The biggest preorder bath I ever took was Time Reversal. Never again...
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If Rev ever comes back to standard I doubt it will be when there's support for a pretty pure draw-go. I get the impression WotC wants draw-go to be an exceedingly rare thing in standard. (Also tempo.) (Also combo in any competitive capacity.)
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Madmarker posted:One thing I want everyone to recognize right now, Sphinx's Revelation, does not have a plane specific name, meaning it will be VERY easy to reprint it in a later set. All the set needs to have is a Sphinx/Sphinxes and BOOM, Revelation is back baby. I don't think they'd reprint Sphinx's Revelation because its format warping in Standard and not really good enough to need a Modern reprint. Entropic posted:Sagu Mauler! I hope. Maybe some of the Ascendancies. Everything that's indisputably good is at like 5 dollars to start with. Sagu Mauler is one of those cards that Goons really like that the larger community seems to be indifferent on. I doubt you're going to see Temur decks running 4-of for a six-drop and the morph cost isn't going to fool anyone since the cost difference between Mauler and Rattleclaw Mystic is so high. I think you're more likely to see people putting Sarkhan in the deck as extra Stormbreath Dragons. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Nehru the Damaja posted:If Rev ever comes back to standard I doubt it will be when there's support for a pretty pure draw-go. I get the impression WotC wants draw-go to be an exceedingly rare thing in standard. (Also tempo.) (Also combo in any competitive capacity.) So if we don't have tempo, or control, or tempo, what is blue supposed to do? They have been moving away from control for a while, and combo even longer, but I don't think they will be moving to far from tempo, it allows blue to play along the axis wizards has been moving standard towards (creature combat) while still maintaining blues spell heavy nature. They DID dial back tempo after snapcaster mage was printed, but I'm pretty sure thats more a reaction to that card, rather than anything specific against tempo decks. I would not be surprised to see blue tempo based decks be a more prevalent part of the metagame now that RTR, the last set that was standard legal with snapcaster mage, is rotating out. Angry Grimace posted:I don't think they'd reprint Sphinx's Revelation because its format warping in Standard and not really good enough to need a Modern reprint. Never say never, we did just get mutavault and thoughtseize. I'm not saying anytime soon, that would certainly cause some burnout on par with the Titans, but I could see it being back in standard in the next 5yrs or so. Madmarker fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Madmarker posted:So if we don't have tempo, or control, or tempo, what is blue supposed to do? They have been moving away from control for a while, and combo even longer, but I don't think they will be moving to far from tempo, it allows blue to play along the axis wizards has been moving standard towards (creature combat) while still maintaining blues spell heavy nature. They DID dial back tempo after snapcaster mage was printed, but I'm pretty sure thats more a reaction to that card, rather than anything specific against tempo decks. I would not be surprised to see blue tempo based decks be a more prevalent part of the metagame now that RTR, the last set that was standard legal with snapcaster mage, is rotating out. Mutavault was some serious dumb poo poo they did because they apparently thought it would enable Sliver decks. Thoughtseize I think isn't necessarily "format warping" in that it doesn't actually warp the entire game when you cast one. Sphinx's Revelation kind of does. Its just a stupid card that does two annoying things that enable draw-go at the same time.
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Angry Grimace posted:Mutavault was some serious dumb poo poo they did because they apparently thought it would enable Sliver decks. Was that really the cited reason? Like I love mutavault, and I love having it in standard, but they were deluded if they didn't see that card being a standard all-star. Also, slivers are awesome, but with the quality creatures are now, slivers would have to be standard playable on there own, without any other sliver being present, before they'd even be a consideration. I mean a 1/1 for 1 that gives all slivers you control +1/+0 would be the baseline.
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Angry Grimace posted:Thoughtseize I think isn't necessarily "format warping" in that it doesn't actually warp the entire game when you cast one. It warps the format in that it heavily discourages decks without good redundancy. And hell yes it warps individual games too. Have you never mulliganed against a Thoughtseize deck and then sworn when they drop a tapped Swamp? Or even just kept a mediocre hand against Mono B?
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Sleep of Bronze posted:It warps the format in that it heavily discourages decks without good redundancy. And hell yes it warps individual games too. Have you never mulliganed against a Thoughtseize deck and then sworn when they drop a tapped Swamp? Or even just kept a mediocre hand against Mono B? I look forward to having my opponent groan on turn one thoughtseize for another year. It really is pretty satisfying.
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Sleep of Bronze posted:It warps the format in that it heavily discourages decks without good redundancy. And hell yes it warps individual games too. Have you never mulliganed against a Thoughtseize deck and then sworn when they drop a tapped Swamp? Or even just kept a mediocre hand against Mono B? I mean, it does, but it doesn't warp the game the the way Revelation does in that a Revelation for any significant amount generally wins the game. I'm not denying Thoughtseize is a better card in general. I'm just saying Sphinx's Revelation creates an entire viable deck type around itself. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Madmarker posted:Was that really the cited reason? Like I love mutavault, and I love having it in standard, but they were deluded if they didn't see that card being a standard all-star. Also, slivers are awesome, but with the quality creatures are now, slivers would have to be standard playable on there own, without any other sliver being present, before they'd even be a consideration. I mean a 1/1 for 1 that gives all slivers you control +1/+0 would be the baseline. ...1 mana 2/1 that gives other creatures you control +1/+0 is not the baseline for playable in standard... That is well above standard playable. 1 mana 2/1 with downside is playable in standard. Honestly, 4 of that card and then no other slivers still works, since that can swing in for 3-4 on turn 2.
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If there is an Enchanted Evening in play and someone casts Deicide on your activated Mutavault, do you have to exile all Mutavaults in your deck? I would assume so.
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Angry Grimace posted:If there is an Enchanted Evening in play and someone casts Deicide on your activated Mutavault, do you have to exile all Mutavaults in your deck? I would assume so. No, you'd exile the mutavault, then check to see if it is a god. Once mutavault is exiled, it is just a land and has no creature types. Cactrot fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Gensuki posted:...1 mana 2/1 that gives other creatures you control +1/+0 is not the baseline for playable in standard... That is well above standard playable. Standard is 2/1 for 1 with upside and, occasionally downside examples: 2/1 for 1 that can pump it self, a 2/1 for 1 that can return itself to the battlefield, a 2/1 for 1 that exiles cast sorcery and instants instead of them going to the graveyard, a 2/1 for 1 with protection from multicolor and gains you life whenever a multicolor spell is cast, a 2/1 for 1 that can be used as a creature boosting enchantment. Yes some of them cannot block, and one has jackal pup downside, but in the decks that are running them that is irrelevant. That is the competition slivers are up against.
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Entropic posted:There was one guy at my store who did pretty well for a while playing UWR exlixir control with Aurelia's Fury as a finisher. Duskmantle Seer!  Such a sweet card, and nothing to use it in.
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Madmarker posted:So if we don't have tempo, or control, or tempo, what is blue supposed to do? They have been moving away from control for a while, and combo even longer, but I don't think they will be moving to far from tempo, it allows blue to play along the axis wizards has been moving standard towards (creature combat) while still maintaining blues spell heavy nature. They DID dial back tempo after snapcaster mage was printed, but I'm pretty sure thats more a reaction to that card, rather than anything specific against tempo decks. I would not be surprised to see blue tempo based decks be a more prevalent part of the metagame now that RTR, the last set that was standard legal with snapcaster mage, is rotating out. You'll play green every standard season from here to eternity and you'll loving like it.
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Well yeah jeskai is a tempo deck. They tried to build a tempo shell in innistrad but woops they printed the two best blue creatures ever basically. Jeskai is more reserved but should be fine for standard tempo deck.
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So anyone got suggestions for what to choose for the prerelease in terms of fun/effectiveness? Was leaning towards Jeskai because kung-fu is awesome. Just now sure how effective they'll be.
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Tracula posted:So anyone got suggestions for what to choose for the prerelease in terms of fun/effectiveness? Was leaning towards Jeskai because kung-fu is awesome. Just now sure how effective they'll be. My pick is Abzan, because W/B is my favorite color combination and "really slow" is my favorite pace of play.
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Tracula posted:So anyone got suggestions for what to choose for the prerelease in terms of fun/effectiveness? Was leaning towards Jeskai because kung-fu is awesome. Just now sure how effective they'll be. Azban and Mardu seem to be the top two, with Temur as the third place. I'm doing one of each minus Jeskai. Bugsy fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Tracula posted:So anyone got suggestions for what to choose for the prerelease in terms of fun/effectiveness? Was leaning towards Jeskai because kung-fu is awesome. Just now sure how effective they'll be. Abzan and Mardu seem like the most likely to be good, since White/Black looks to have a lot of the most reliably good commons/uncommons. They all look fun though.
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Tracula posted:So anyone got suggestions for what to choose for the prerelease in terms of fun/effectiveness? Was leaning towards Jeskai because kung-fu is awesome. Just now sure how effective they'll be. I'm going Mardu for my prerelease, because I like to thoughtlessly turn cards sideways, I guess.
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