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Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Friend Commuter posted:

Do cores in Vicky 2 even do anything apart from give you the Reconquest CB?

There are a bunch of events that only affect non-core provinces or only affect POPs in non-core provinces, and other events that only affect core provinces.

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Allyn: Sep 4, 2007; I love Charlie from Busted!

Plus they affect admin efficiency. Something like -10% for every non-core province in the state.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 17:03

GrossMurpel: Apr 8, 2011

They also make you feel nice and warm inside :3:

# ? Sep 20, 2014 17:22

Dongattack: Dec 20, 2006; by Cyrano4747

I watched the HoI4 gameplay reveal (here it is if someone hasn't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGNpPz_W2A ) and i basically went "aaaaaa, i need this". Meanwhile tho i'm trying to figure out if i would enjoy HoI3. I adore Crusader Kings 2, but that's also my only Paradox game.

Is there a good and informative let's play somewhere maybe? Preferably video, easier to keep track and i can chill out on couch with it on the big screen and soak it all up.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:42

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Royal Marriage with Castille one day, Personal Union the next. And I'm playing as Portugal. Guess I've already won the colonization game.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:43

GenderSelectScreen: Mar 7, 2010; I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME; College Slice

Dongattack posted:

I watched the HoI4 gameplay reveal (here it is if someone hasn't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGNpPz_W2A ) and i basically went "aaaaaa, i need this". Meanwhile tho i'm trying to figure out if i would enjoy HoI3. I adore Crusader Kings 2, but that's also my only Paradox game.

Is there a good and informative let's play somewhere maybe? Preferably video, easier to keep track and i can chill out on couch with it on the big screen and soak it all up.

Don't bother. If CKII is the only Paradox game you've played, then it'll be a huge disappointment.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:56

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Dongattack posted:

I watched the HoI4 gameplay reveal (here it is if someone hasn't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGNpPz_W2A ) and i basically went "aaaaaa, i need this". Meanwhile tho i'm trying to figure out if i would enjoy HoI3. I adore Crusader Kings 2, but that's also my only Paradox game.

Is there a good and informative let's play somewhere maybe? Preferably video, easier to keep track and i can chill out on couch with it on the big screen and soak it all up.

If you really want a WW2 experience, get Darkest Hour.

Also the dude playing the game in that video, Podcat, is a goon, and the project lead for HoI4. :3:

# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:02

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

Crusader Kings 2, Europa 4 and Victoria 2 are the only Paradox games I'd recommend to a new player - I personally like Darkest Hour, but you'd be delving into a deep dark world of weird rules to pick it up now.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:02

al-azad: May 28, 2009

If I hated Hearts of Iron 3 would you recommend Darkest Hour? HoI3 was my first real Paradox game when it came out and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. There was no real tutorial and I just didn't feel like looking up an online guide. And it wasn't fun to experiment with like Distant Worlds.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:24

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

al-azad posted:

If I hated Hearts of Iron 3 would you recommend Darkest Hour? HoI3 was my first real Paradox game when it came out and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. There was no real tutorial and I just didn't feel like looking up an online guide. And it wasn't fun to experiment with like Distant Worlds.

Yeah. Darkest Hour is much more fun and easier to learn and understand.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:28

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Kavak posted:

Yeah. Darkest Hour is much more fun and easier to learn and understand.

And Darkest Hour has Kaiserreich, which is honestly reason enough to buy it.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:32

Dongattack: Dec 20, 2006; by Cyrano4747

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Don't bother. If CKII is the only Paradox game you've played, then it'll be a huge disappointment.

Drone posted:

If you really want a WW2 experience, get Darkest Hour.

Also the dude playing the game in that video, Podcat, is a goon, and the project lead for HoI4.

Haha, i enjoyed his look of utter terror and defeat when the speaker let slip "Q1". I'll just wait for HoI4 then.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:09

Gorelab: Dec 26, 2006

Weird question about Vicky 2. What causes the CSA states to become super loving liberal like every time. Like I almost always have a conservative as gently caress north and a south that's apparently super liberal but gots to have slaves.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:14

Fintilgin: Sep 29, 2004; Fintilgin sweeps!

Dongattack posted:

I watched the HoI4 gameplay reveal (here it is if someone hasn't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGNpPz_W2A ) and i basically went "aaaaaa, i need this". Meanwhile tho i'm trying to figure out if i would enjoy HoI3. I adore Crusader Kings 2, but that's also my only Paradox game.

Is there a good and informative let's play somewhere maybe? Preferably video, easier to keep track and i can chill out on couch with it on the big screen and soak it all up.

Hrmmm. First mod - switch the colors of Germany and Yugoslavia.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:34

Punished Chuck: Dec 27, 2010

Gorelab posted:

Weird question about Vicky 2. What causes the CSA states to become super loving liberal like every time. Like I almost always have a conservative as gently caress north and a south that's apparently super liberal but gots to have slaves.

I'm not 100% sure but I think it might have something to do with the way that you have to reverse-psychology your nation into doing what you want. Like, CSA is this big conservative slave-state, so the liberal pops get pissed off living under it, their CON and MIL starts climbing, and eventually they're in control. That would be my guess.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:47

Gorelab: Dec 26, 2006

No like this is pre-splitting. Where the north is like 100% conservative and all my southern states are going "gently caress YOU SLAVES" but are like 60% liberal in ideology.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:53

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

So HOI4 is going to have Vickys state/provice system.]

That should make it easy to make the Vicky3 -> Hoi4 converter you will release along side Vicky3, which is doubtlessly being work on as we speak!

# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:59

Don Gato: Apr 28, 2013; Actually a bipedal cat.; Grimey Drawer

Gorelab posted:

No like this is pre-splitting. Where the north is like 100% conservative and all my southern states are going "gently caress YOU SLAVES" but are like 60% liberal in ideology.

Do you think it's to represent that STATES RIGHTS bullshit? Makes sense since IIRC the confederacy was very decentralized, asked in Vicky that it's a liberal thing.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 21:13

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

Gorelab posted:

No like this is pre-splitting. Where the north is like 100% conservative and all my southern states are going "gently caress YOU SLAVES" but are like 60% liberal in ideology.

The slavery events that the South gets push up militancy, and militant citizens are attracted to the most radical ideologies that have been invented - thus they flock to liberalism in the early game. I wouldn't worry about it, antebellum politics don't fit into the Victoria political system at all so weird poo poo is bound to happen.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 21:27

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Gorelab posted:

Weird question about Vicky 2. What causes the CSA states to become super loving liberal like every time. Like I almost always have a conservative as gently caress north and a south that's apparently super liberal but gots to have slaves.

The one time I've seen AI CSA win the war, they fell to a communist revolution in the 1890s. It was pretty cool.

# ? Sep 20, 2014 21:54

sniper4625: Sep 26, 2009; Loyal to the hEnd

Drone posted:

The one time I've seen AI CSA win the war, they fell to a communist revolution in the 1890s. It was pretty cool.

Long live the Congaree Socialist Republic!

# ? Sep 20, 2014 22:25

Enjoy: Apr 18, 2009

Gorelab posted:

Weird question about Vicky 2. What causes the CSA states to become super loving liberal like every time. Like I almost always have a conservative as gently caress north and a south that's apparently super liberal but gots to have slaves.

It's because all POP political reforms count towards increasing POP liberalism, even if that political reform would in practice mean rolling the reform backwards rather than forwards

From liberalism's section in one of the poptypes files:

code:

		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			political_reform_want = 0.02
		}

Pro-slavery and anti-slavery sentiments are equivalent as far as the game is concerned.

I'd recommend stripping out all factors moving POPs towards pro-slavery and replacing them with movements towards reactionism and limited citizenship (like in my mod)

# ? Sep 20, 2014 23:16

YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

I've been doing a V2 Ottoman game the last couple of days and it's had some pretty great moments.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 00:30

VerdantSquire: Jul 1, 2014

Jazerus posted:

The slavery events that the South gets push up militancy, and militant citizens are attracted to the most radical ideologies that have been invented - thus they flock to liberalism in the early game. I wouldn't worry about it, antebellum politics don't fit into the Victoria political system at all so weird poo poo is bound to happen.

Actually, I've read that in the CSA's first election, the liberal party was the one that ended up getting voted in. Don't remember where I got that information from though, so for all I know it could've been from the mouth of some hardcore CSA apologist. :shrug:

# ? Sep 21, 2014 01:06

Funky Valentine: Feb 26, 2014; Dojyaa~an

VerdantSquire posted:

Actually, I've read that in the CSA's first election, the liberal party was the one that ended up getting voted in. Don't remember where I got that information from though, so for all I know it could've been from the mouth of some hardcore CSA apologist.

There was no election; Jefferson Davis was just selected as a provisional president. Proper elections would presumably begin if the CSA won or at least survived the war.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 01:23

uPen: Jan 25, 2010; Zu Rodina!

al-azad posted:

If I hated Hearts of Iron 3 would you recommend Darkest Hour? HoI3 was my first real Paradox game when it came out and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. There was no real tutorial and I just didn't feel like looking up an online guide. And it wasn't fun to experiment with like Distant Worlds.

Depends on what you didn't like about HoI3 but yes, DH is a much better game.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 01:28

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

YF-23 posted:

What's up with the Dutch flag there?

# ? Sep 21, 2014 01:36

uPen: Jan 25, 2010; Zu Rodina!

Kavak posted:

What's up with the Dutch flag there?

Communist flag.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 01:53

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

uPen posted:

Communist flag.

So Imperial Germany is allied with the communist Dutch.

Victoria 2!

# ? Sep 21, 2014 02:01

uPen: Jan 25, 2010; Zu Rodina!

Maybe not allied, maybe the Dutch are sphered and Germany is protecting them against... Japan, Burma and... Pegu?

# ? Sep 21, 2014 02:04

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

uPen posted:

Maybe not allied, maybe the Dutch are sphered and Germany is protecting them against... Japan, Burma and... Pegu?

I think that's Laos.

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YF-23 posted:

I've been doing a V2 Ottoman game the last couple of days and it's had some pretty great moments.

Paradox

I'm playing a KR game as Imperial Russia currently, and I don't know whether an event to declare war on Turkestan has screwed up and failed to fire, or if it's merely taking its time triggering. One thing I would like to see in that mod is some tightening up of peace events that are part of a chain, like Russia reclaiming her empire and stuff.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 02:22

vintagepurple: Jan 31, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Funky Valentine posted:

There was no election; Jefferson Davis was just selected as a provisional president. Proper elections would presumably begin if the CSA won or at least survived the war.

There were congressional elections in 1861 and 1863. (And Davis technically was elected after being named interim president-he ran unopposed.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 02:40

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Mister Adequate posted:

Paradox

I'm playing a KR game as Imperial Russia currently, and I don't know whether an event to declare war on Turkestan has screwed up and failed to fire, or if it's merely taking its time triggering. One thing I would like to see in that mod is some tightening up of peace events that are part of a chain, like Russia reclaiming her empire and stuff.

I think you have to DoW Turkestan manually if they're the ones under not-Kazakhstan rather than vice versa.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 03:47

Westminster System: Jul 4, 2009

Yeah, Victoria 2 can get pretty weird. (And people weren't kidding about how broke China is)

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uPen: Jan 25, 2010; Zu Rodina!

China with 97% literacy :psyduck:

# ? Sep 21, 2014 07:23

Drone: Aug 22, 2003; Incredible machine

Westminster System posted:

Chinese United Kingdom of America
Federal Socialist Union of Canada
United States of Mexico
Free Confederacy of America

What mod is this? I'm like 90% sure those nations aren't in vanilla or NNM.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 07:33

Testikles: Feb 22, 2009

Managed to witness the U.S. and France getting into a war over the breakaway Kingdom of California in my USCA Vic 2 game. This is also the same game where a near major power is one state minor Krakow who has obscene amounts of prestige for no good reason.

# ? Sep 21, 2014 08:37

Westminster System: Jul 4, 2009

uPen posted:

China with 97% literacy

I actually have no idea why or how that happened, though I could of been messing with the literacy modifiers at the time to see the impact on the world and embraced the further ridiculousness it endows china with. Or the Japanese taught them how to read who knows. California in that game got a population from a few hundred thousand yankees and assorted others to like 4 million chinese within a decade, China is absurd.

As for the mod, its NNM, just with more country names, its just a country names .csv i'd used and messed with for years but is lost to hard drive failure now.

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YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

uPen posted:

Maybe not allied, maybe the Dutch are sphered and Germany is protecting them against... Japan, Burma and... Pegu?

Yeah communist Netherlands was in Germany's sphere. And alas, Japan's plans for a transcontinental empire remained in the drawing board and now I'm a bit sad that it didn't escalate to a Great War.

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