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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Grantaire posted:

:siren: Lackadaisy updated :siren:

e: and I am in love with the Savoys as predicted

Holy mother of God, that swamp panel.

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RickoniX
Dec 4, 2005

A human or elf?

NO NOT A BADGER YOU GOON
Do we know what she's going for?

Diet Conan Doyle
Jan 15, 2010

Watch as I pluck the moon from the very sky!
I'm assuming Poppy's reaching for her heart medication in her bag. The Queen's a shareholder of the pharmaceutical company it comes from.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Rincewind posted:

Expecting to Fly has been so, so good. By far my favorite of the between-Bad Machinery arc comics he's done.
Giant Days had Susan Ptolemy.

Expecting to Fly is a lot of fun, though, and it just got started!

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

Hi guys I'm told this is the place to go when you actually like webcomics, so I'd like to share with you one of my favourites. It's about two roommates and their wacky adventures, their relationships, and their sexual expression. It's called Moon Over June! The comic is usually pretty :nws: but don't worry, I'm only going to post the worksafe stuff.






Before you think it's all violet on violet, those are just the earliest strips and the artist eases into full colour at strip 45-47 and on.


As you can tell Summer isn't exactly what you would call a role model, but she's an interesting flawed character to watch grow.

Just Offscreen
Jun 29, 2006

We must hope that our current selves will one day step aside to make room for better versions of us.
Thank you for sharing.

Tuxedo Ted
Apr 24, 2007

Hi, GBS webcomics thread. How are you all?

Dawning Horror
Jun 18, 2009

Elissia posted:

Hi guys I'm told this is the place to go when you actually like webcomics, so I'd like to share with you one of my favourites. It's about two roommates and their wacky adventures, their relationships, and their sexual expression. It's called Moon Over June! The comic is usually pretty :nws: but don't worry, I'm only going to post the worksafe stuff.

Funny story, the previous iteration of this thread hated on moon over june so much that we hurt SuperHappy's feelings. This happened in like... 2011? It's cool if you like it though.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It


:gb2gbs:

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

Luke Johnson posted:

Funny story, the previous iteration of this thread hated on moon over june so much that we hurt SuperHappy's feelings. This happened in like... 2011? It's cool if you like it though.

I think I may be the only other person who actually does. Probably not for the same reason though.

Telarra
Oct 9, 2012

Tuxedo Ted posted:

Hi, GBS webcomics thread. How are you all?

Hi. We're sorry about the MoJ, have some Moogles:




Dawning Horror
Jun 18, 2009

Elissia posted:

I think I may be the only other person who actually does. Probably not for the same reason though.

Okay I'm actually curious why you like it. Are there jokes in the speech bubbles? I can't read them because of my bad eyes.

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

Moddington posted:

Hi. We're sorry about the MoJ, have some Moogles:

We are not, in fact, sorry.

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

Luke Johnson posted:

Okay I'm actually curious why you like it. Are there jokes in the speech bubbles? I can't read them because of my bad eyes.

Sometimes there are, yeah. It's mostly the art and anatomy though. It's all got a surreal not-quite-human feeling to it that draws me in. A comparison was made in the other thread about MOJ is probably what you would get if you fed a machine a couple sitcoms and loads of lesbian porn and then told it to make a comic about humans.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I finally binge-read Ava's Demons. I didn't realize it'd be so quick to read, If it were six panels a page it'd only be like 200 pages.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

From what I've seen, Moon Over June is basically Least I Could Do but with lesbians, and the smug faces replaced with really bizarre faces.

Just Offscreen
Jun 29, 2006

We must hope that our current selves will one day step aside to make room for better versions of us.

Elissia posted:

Sometimes there are, yeah. It's mostly the art and anatomy though. It's all got a surreal not-quite-human feeling to it that draws me in. A comparison was made in the other thread about MOJ is probably what you would get if you fed a machine a couple sitcoms and loads of lesbian porn and then told it to make a comic about humans.

For some reason, I think you would like forming.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

SlothfulCobra posted:

From what I've seen, Moon Over June is basically Least I Could Do but with lesbians, and the smug faces replaced with really bizarre faces.

All I needed to know about MOJ, I learned from watching doubleDildoMachine.gif

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Bell_ posted:

Giant Days had Susan Ptolemy.

Expecting to Fly is a lot of fun, though, and it just got started!

After reading today's page I guess that a) Erin did rat out Shelly, and b) Shelly followed through on her threat, or that even the threat of a curse is enough to banish a person to hell, eventually.

Plus backstory got revealed, but who cares, Allison referenced a SGR story.

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

Rincewind posted:

Expecting to Fly has been so, so good. By far my favorite of the between-Bad Machinery arc comics he's done.

I agree, it inspired me to read everything again from the beginning starting with Bobbins

Dang that second last panel, I guess someone was listening
http://www.scarygoround.com/?date=20140923

edit: same as what the guy above was referencing

Vesi fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Sep 23, 2014

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Can someone briefly explain what the relationship is between Scarygoround, Bad Machinery, Bobbins and all the rest, because I have absolutely no idea what they are, why there's so many or where to start and the new reader section does nothing to change that.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Can someone briefly explain what the relationship is between Scarygoround, Bad Machinery, Bobbins and all the rest, because I have absolutely no idea what they are, why there's so many or where to start and the new reader section does nothing to change that.

Bobbins is an office-comedy strip. Scary-Go-Round is a supernatural horror comedy featuring some of the same characters and set at an indeterminate amount of time later. Bad Machinery is an occasionally supernatural kids-solving-mysteries serial set six years in the future featuring minor characters from Scary-Go-Round.

Expecting To Fly is a miniseries featuring the Scary-Go-Round characters in high school.

Feline Mind Meld
Jun 14, 2007

I'm pretty creeped out

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Can someone briefly explain what the relationship is between Scarygoround, Bad Machinery, Bobbins and all the rest, because I have absolutely no idea what they are, why there's so many or where to start and the new reader section does nothing to change that.

It's all chronological.

Start with bobbins. The early stuff is pretty awful and it takes him a bit to find his groove with the writing, and he loses whatever "artist" he has partway through. You can kind of watch his style go from talking heads in a blank panel to the actually pretty great looking stuff he puts out today.

Then read SGR which is generally really good. Then read BM. The new bobbins stuff you'll hit reading through BM, but once you get to the end of it you can read specifically that stuff with the link if you want.

It's just a shame that Expecting to Fly means you can't read Giant Days anymore. That arc was quite good. Anyone who's read them know if Her and the other one are worth dropping a couple bucks on for a pdf or something?

Fortis
Oct 21, 2009

feelin' fine

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Can someone briefly explain what the relationship is between Scarygoround, Bad Machinery, Bobbins and all the rest, because I have absolutely no idea what they are, why there's so many or where to start and the new reader section does nothing to change that.

They're all centered around the same fictional UK town of Tackleford and take place in roughly this timeline:

Expecting to Fly, Bobbins, Scary Go Round, Giant Days, Bad Machinery

Bobbins was John Allison's first webcomic and SGR immediately followed it up. Originally SGR had a different cast in the same setting but a lot of Bobbins characters eventually returned. When SGR ended he started Bad Machinery, which takes place 3 years later and is largely centered around a different cast but SGR characters still show up occasionally. Giant Days takes place during the 3 year span between SGR and Bad Machinery and is about one SGR character at college. Expecting to Fly is his latest 'side story' and is about the Bobbins/SGR cast in high school.

Recently he has also been doing short strips focusing on SGR cast memebers who aren't really a core part of Bad Machinery using the Bobbins name, but those are separate from the original and are distinguishable by being short strips that show up periodically in the Bad Machinery archives.

Anyway I think I have that right.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
Yeah, I think all of that is more or less it.

He doesn't really advertise the connections back to his really old stuff because you don't actually need them to understand what's going on these days and I think he's sort of embarrassed by some of his old work, which isn't surprising after a decade and a half of artistic development. (The first Bobbins strip is 16 years old, almost to the day.)

Some of the characters from old Bobbins are still around in the background of Bad Machinery; for example, the current between-cases story, Expecting to Fly, is partly about Shelley Winters, one of the three people in that very first Bobbins strip from 1998. But all you really need to know about her is well established in Bad Machinery itself or in neo-Bobbins. (As is the thing with her sister Erin that has people ooh-ing about today's strip.) I'd recommend starting at the beginning of Bad Machinery, really, and checking out the older stuff if it holds your interest.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Eldercain posted:

Start with bobbins. The early stuff is pretty awful and it takes him a bit to find his groove with the writing, and he loses whatever "artist" he has partway through.

The art was 100% John Allison, he just switched it up.

Feline Mind Meld
Jun 14, 2007

I'm pretty creeped out

Gabriel Pope posted:

The art was 100% John Allison, he just switched it up.

Then what was that weird transition period? I seem to remember a comic about someing leaving the team or something and assumed the abrupt art change to illustrator meant it was an artist.

I started reading bad machinery first and it's pretty good by itself, but having come back through and knowing who Mr. Beckwith and amy etc are made some of the stuff like the party at kroptokin's make a lot more sense. You could probably skip bobbins honestly but SGR is pretty drat good and around the giant days arc (not the side story of the same name) he really takes off with it.

e: http://www.scarygoround.com/bobbins/index-archive.php?date=20000619 this one

Feline Mind Meld fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Sep 23, 2014

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Holly is berating John Allison for having taken a hiatus.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Allison doesn't like to talk about the connection between all his strips because it makes the back-catalogue seem intimidating. His new stuff is made to stand on its own, with the connection to his older comic being just a bonus for long-time readers.

But yeah, the main comics go: Bobbins, then Scary Go Round, then Bad Machinery. They were written in that order, and take place in that order, but for quality, I recommend them in the opposite order:
  • If you want to read something solidly good, that's available online now, just read Bad Machinery. Kids (later, teens) solving mysteries in a town where there's actually supernatural things happening occasionally, but it's more about the people still. It's really well made and fun.
  • Read Scary Go Round if you want a really long comic, that starts out messy and convoluted with bad art, but over time gets better art and becomes super entertaining and even more convoluted. There are lots of wacky supernatural shenanigans in an otherwise quiet english town, but the story structure feels more like a "slice of life" thing somehow. It features adult characters who act like they're a bit drunk 24/7.
  • I've never read the original Bobbins. It's probably worse than the beginning of Scary Go Round, but an interesting curio for someone who's super interested in John Allison's work.

Then there's also these side project things, written during Bad Machinery whenever he needs a break:
  • Giant Days features Esther, a teen character from SGR, now off in college. It takes place between SGR and BM. It's amazing, but isn't available online anymore I think. It can work well on its own, but would be even more meaningful if you're slightly familiar with Esther already.
  • Expecting to Fly, the current thing, is featuring the teenage backstory of the main characters from Bobbins and SGR (one of whom is also a side character in BM). It's turning out really well.
  • Bobbins (the reboot, kinda?) and Bobbins Now are four-panel bonus comics, written occasionally. They're probably the only things not worth reading without previous experience with the characters.

EDIT: okay, I'm done messing with this post finally. No more.

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Sep 23, 2014

Feline Mind Meld
Jun 14, 2007

I'm pretty creeped out
Old bobbins is really pretty bad and easily skippable. That said, the man has come so SO far.

Giant days owns but I think without having read SGR it wouldn't be nearly as good since about half of it is exploring a character from that series.

Has anyone here read Her or Murder She Writes? With how good his side storied have been I want to know if I'm missing out.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

Eldercain posted:

Old bobbins is really pretty bad and easily skippable. That said, the man has come so SO far.

Giant days owns but I think without having read SGR it wouldn't be nearly as good since about half of it is exploring a character from that series.

Has anyone here read Her or Murder She Writes? With how good his side storied have been I want to know if I'm missing out.

It's been ages since I've read either of them, but I remember Murder She Writes being really charming and good.

Her was a perfectly serviceable story in the vein of the SGRs of yore, IIRC (I really don't remeber it that well), but it wasn't super memorable.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Murder She Writes plops Shelly and Lotte in an Agatha Christie style whodunit. I don't remember Her at all.

That! was pretty good, if you like the idea of Shelly running around in a classic 50's monster movie.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Eldercain posted:

Old bobbins is really pretty bad and easily skippable. That said, the man has come so SO far.

Giant days owns but I think without having read SGR it wouldn't be nearly as good since about half of it is exploring a character from that series.

Has anyone here read Her or Murder She Writes? With how good his side storied have been I want to know if I'm missing out.

I don't think I've read Her (or you confusing it with THAT? Because it's pretty darn good), but Murder She Writes is absolutely wonderful. And apparently there's going to a be a sequel. :allears:

Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:
Old-school Bobbins is kind of like the Tackleford equivalent of pre-party Achewood, in that everybody's there but their characterization is a bit off. What always stood out in particular to me was how Ryan used to be known as Ryan Beck and he was treated as "that one Hanna-Barbera character that everybody ditches" during a holiday storyline; he's sure come a long way since, considering he and Amy are the only two characters that have stayed in the spotlight since Bobbins. I guess JA and I have the same favorite characters :3:

The best decision Allison ever made was to ditch the focus on Rachel and Tessa completely early on in Scary Go Round, considering I couldn't even remember their names when I wrote this post. I still can't believe it's been nine years since I first started reading it; I was going into the eighth grade at the time, for Pete's sake. The sense of charm I got from the strip then still holds when I read whatever comes up on scarygoround.com today.

Leroy Dennui fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Sep 23, 2014

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

howe_sam posted:

Murder She Writes plops Shelly and Lotte in an Agatha Christie style whodunit. I don't remember Her at all.

That! was pretty good, if you like the idea of Shelly running around in a classic 50's monster movie.

Oh, I was getting Her and THAT confused, I guess. I have literally no idea what Her is, then.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

And again: if you haven't read any of this stuff, just read Bad Machinery. John Allison would probably be horrified to see everyone trying to disentangle it all for you. He's said that he hates how the back-catalogue can scare people away from the newer work he's more proud of.

(Or, if you're up for a humongous archive binge and watching an artist grow, the SGR archive is here. These two links are the only places you need to bother with considering, as a new reader.)

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 23, 2014

Feline Mind Meld
Jun 14, 2007

I'm pretty creeped out

Rincewind posted:

Oh, I was getting Her and THAT confused, I guess. I have literally no idea what Her is, then.

Yeah I'm probably confused on it too. All I remember is the title is a pronoun that is basically useless to google. Think I might go pitch the 3bux or whatever it is to allison for the right to read Murder She Writes since nobody gives much of a gently caress about the other one.

Leroy Dennui posted:

Old-school Bobbins is kind of like the Tackleford equivalent of pre-party Achewood,

This is basically spot on. Maybe even pre-cats achewood.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

howe_sam posted:

Murder She Writes plops Shelly and Lotte in an Agatha Christie style whodunit. I don't remember Her at all.

That! was pretty good, if you like the idea of Shelly running around in a classic 50's monster movie.

Her was the one where Shelley fought giant insects in a mid-american town whilst on a book tour.

Also bobbins is kind of rubbish (which is easy to remember because that is what bobbins means).

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

I've come to realize through seeing his twitter quoted repeatedly by people I follow that KC Green is basically the Woody Allen of webcomic artists, and I don't mean that as a compliment.

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sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

mr. stefan posted:

I've come to realize through seeing his twitter quoted repeatedly by people I follow that KC Green is basically the Woody Allen of webcomic artists, and I don't mean that as a compliment.

.....Does KC have an adopted daughter we should be worried about?

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