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Does anyone have the little assembly sheet for Warlord's Soviet Infantry? The one that came with my box is for Germans.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 21:40 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:10 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Does anyone have the little assembly sheet for Warlord's Soviet Infantry? Have got it sitting literally beside my keyboard - still got half a box of them to build
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 23:56 |
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AWESOME! Thank you. I could have probably figured it out, but who wants to?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 00:49 |
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300 point Confident Shithouse T-34, haha holy poo poo
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 00:58 |
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Leo Showers posted:300 point Confident Shithouse T-34, haha holy poo poo That's not even particularly good value in EW terms, especially when they're gonna be H&C.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:02 |
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Who knows, they might get a really aggressive H&C discount
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:03 |
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So basically the T-34s are just going to get own-zoned by a smarm of cheaper tanks, 300 points probably buys a few tanks.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:15 |
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Well, it depends on whether the Germans get the upgunned Panzer IIIs or not, because otherwise there's not much outside of 88s, howitzers and Panzerjaegers that can really threaten T-34s. Oh, and assaults, because lol conscript
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:19 |
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Leo Showers posted:So basically the T-34s are just going to get own-zoned by a smarm of cheaper tanks, 300 points probably buys a few tanks. They're going to be own-zoned because they're in always attack forces that are going to have to attack and expose themselves, particularly that side armor 4 with hen and chicks. Tankovy will probably be best with something cheaper. I suspect Valentines may be a much better value, actually, though the lend-lease tankovy is rather limited. Keep in mind that there'll be like 4-5 on the board max in any game, and they're less well armored than Matilda IIs, so if you can deal with Matty 2s, you can deal with T-34s.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:21 |
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I suspect that you will see very few T-34's and KV's outside of Motostrelk and Strelkovy companies unless you play at stupid high points levels. (above 1700 or so). The only things that that seem interesting about that book from my perspective is that the Russians get Fearless stuff (confident sucks when you are always pinned or bailed because conscript) and probably also git Zis-3's. The tanks lists are meh unless there is some wrinkle in the units themselves we haven't seen yet. German-wise its much the same, the lists look to be a bit better (because they represent forces from later in the war) so they will probably replace all similar lists from previous books.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:50 |
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Leo Showers posted:So basically the T-34s are just going to get own-zoned by a smarm of cheaper tanks, 300 points probably buys a few tanks. From my brief browsing, the only force that would "weenie swarm" the T-34 would probably be the Russians themselves. There are few tanks that can really tip the scales completely in their favor. Most things can't take on a T-34 head on, even en masse, and those that can are still small in number, with only 2 to 3 available at 300 points (either because of the points, or because that's the limit on the platoon).
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:12 |
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YF19pilot posted:From my brief browsing, the only force that would "weenie swarm" the T-34 would probably be the Russians themselves. There are few tanks that can really tip the scales completely in their favor. Most things can't take on a T-34 head on, even en masse, and those that can are still small in number, with only 2 to 3 available at 300 points (either because of the points, or because that's the limit on the platoon). An full Italian Carri platoon costs about as much as a single T-34 and can kill it from the side. EW tanks are not that expensive, and Germany has plenty of access to AT 8-9(though perhaps not in tanks themselves) which is enough to kill a T-34 from the front.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:22 |
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There's also no guarantee that the stats will be the same. The T-28 changes from book to book seemingly randomly.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:24 |
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Panzeh posted:An full Italian Carri platoon costs about as much as a single T-34 and can kill it from the side. EW tanks are not that expensive, and Germany has plenty of access to AT 8-9(though perhaps not in tanks themselves) which is enough to kill a T-34 from the front. I'll have to breeze through Hellfire and Back and Burning Empires, but in strict terms of armor, the AT8 stuff from the Germans in Blitzkreig are 0/0/0 armored Panzerjager Is and an infantry gun platoon, the first you can only have three in a platoon, and two in the latter with ROF of 1 (granted a firepower of 1+). There are things that can kill the T-34, yes, but I don't think there is anything that can do it effectively and in such numbers as to tip the scales clearly in their favor, on a point by point basis. Basically I'm looking at this from a "what can I get for 300 points" sort of deal, not really a whole packaged army deal, because I'd have to see the new Russian armies first before I can make that determination. One on one, 300 points of 'x' vs. a single 300 point T-34, there are some things that can hurt it, nothing to really match it, and few, if any, that go above and beyond what the T-34 can handle. Two PzIVDs cost 300 points and have to flank the T-34 for a kill. Even my beloved M13/40s are a slow tank, and for 300 points you'd only take 4, and have to be in short range to kill on the flank, making it's armor all but useless against the T-34. We'll have to see what it looks like when it gets here, but I don't think the T-34 is going to be so horribly overpriced that it's useless. Also, the HQ is 300 points, it's possible the individual units are cheaper since HQ units often times have a points cost associated with any special rules.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:35 |
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YF19pilot posted:I'll have to breeze through Hellfire and Back and Burning Empires, but in strict terms of armor, the AT8 stuff from the Germans in Blitzkreig are 0/0/0 armored Panzerjager Is and an infantry gun platoon, the first you can only have three in a platoon, and two in the latter with ROF of 1 (granted a firepower of 1+). There are things that can kill the T-34, yes, but I don't think there is anything that can do it effectively and in such numbers as to tip the scales clearly in their favor, on a point by point basis. Basically I'm looking at this from a "what can I get for 300 points" sort of deal, not really a whole packaged army deal, because I'd have to see the new Russian armies first before I can make that determination. It's the kind of thing where you have to see the specifics, though. I'm fairly sure the Germans will get better access to Pak38s in Barbarossa as well as new and improved tank destroyers as well as discounts on it all to accomodate the creep. We'll see what happens with them.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 03:11 |
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YF19pilot posted:Also, the HQ is 300 points, it's possible the individual units are cheaper since HQ units often times have a points cost associated with any special rules. 5 points at most for being the HQ unit. There is 0 chance of these soviet lists having any special rules beyond those seen in Rising sun (or not having H&C since i've seen some wishful thinking on that point on other forums). They might not have the "Must take at least 1 combat platoon of the same type as the HQ" rule (I don't think the Rising sun lists had that) so you might be able to skimp and take the HQ as a BT-7 or something and then 1 platoon of T-34's. Personally I don't see them being viable, If I can I might run 1-2 T-34's or a single KV as support for a T-26 horde though. A T-34 company is just too many points sunk into too few tanks. Assuming max T-34's, you got 5 tanks with no support at 1500. Sure you will ruin the day of that guy running a Char company but that's about it. Anybody running infantry or medium/light armor will just swarm you. Roll enough dice and you are going to roll five 1's. I've been playing with the points (using Rising sun costs for the CC tankovy) and the less t-34's you have the better the list.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 03:29 |
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Battlefront's Early War sale is going on right now. I know this because I just bought 6x Panzer 35(t)... for Late War. :romania:
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 23:16 |
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Project 18mm Waterloo is coming along nicely I think. drat it's a pretty scary experience using GMB Designs flags for the first time. "Must. Not. Ruin. Expensive. Flags!" And of course I ended up doing some damage on some of them anyway. They're modelled after Picton's 5th Division. Doing up 8th and 9th Brigades at the same time, and will reinforce with 10th Brigade from 6th Division. I also found a Picton model that fits in scale with the rest of the models, and I'm looking forward to painting him up too. Umbrellas and top hats in combat all day erryday Painting a regular Foot batallion takes me about a week if I only paint a couple of hours each night. The Highlanders take... a bit longer.
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 12:36 |
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Picton owns. I've got him in 6mm Serotonin fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Sep 20, 2014 |
# ? Sep 20, 2014 12:40 |
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These are awesome. I'm really really tempted to get a group/phalanx/whatever they're called but I know if I get one I'll need a table-full! Once I get a unit of WW2 guys painted up I want to start a Wars of the Roses or medieval unit, but rows of men with rifles look really cool too. What size are the Perry Miniatures models? I had a look at their site and judging from the pricing they seem to be 28mm but they don't actually say (that I can find)
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 12:53 |
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Regiment but more usually when fielded, a battalion. Perry are 28mm
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 13:14 |
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Serotonin posted:Picton owns. I've got him in 6mm He really does. I bought the pack he was in from AB miniatures first and loved the detail and sculpt. Too bad he was noticeably too small compared to the other mounted models, so I had to buy one from Newline Designs instead. That was a perfect fit size-wise, but I don't know if it was an old mould or something, because the detail was atrocious. I'm counting on him looking better when I've gotten him painted. krushgroove posted:These are awesome. I'm really really tempted to get a group/phalanx/whatever they're called but I know if I get one I'll need a table-full! Once I get a unit of WW2 guys painted up I want to start a Wars of the Roses or medieval unit, but rows of men with rifles look really cool too. Thanks. You should totally go for it. Linear formations with colourful uniforms are awesome. If you'd like something in a smaller scale than 28mm I can recommend AB miniatures. Unfortunately, cost was an issue for me and my group, so we got a great deal on Man at War models, but it's a bitch finding stuff that fits in scale with those models. Some of the Newline 20mm fits, some are way too chunky. (also, those aren't rifles, but muskets)
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 14:24 |
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Regiment. 28mm. Muskets. Got it! I'm building up my M4A3 Shermans from Plastic Soldier Company, from Wikipedia I take it the most common armament is the 76mm gun, right?
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 17:25 |
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Lucky for you, massive spergs have kept a meticulous record of how many M4A3s were made with what kind of gun. 4671 75 mm M4A3s, including those with wet ammo racks and without, excluding Jumbos 4542 76 mm M4A3s, all types of 76 mm guns 3039 105 mm M4A3s
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:05 |
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Guys at my club are doing lots of Napoleonics using 1/72 plastics, and they look great. Heres a batrep from a big game at the club a couple of weekends back http://lurkusspleen.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/battle-of-the-four-nations-black-powder/ http://lurkusspleen.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/battle-of-four-nations-black-powder-more-pictures/
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:16 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:Lucky for you, massive spergs have kept a meticulous record of how many M4A3s were made with what kind of gun. Thank goodness for massive nerds!
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 18:39 |
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krushgroove posted:Thank goodness for massive nerds! Are you planning on playing any particular system? Surly they have guidelines on what the composition of your platoons should be given a certain period/theater.
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 19:07 |
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Numlock posted:Are you planning on playing any particular system? Surly they have guidelines on what the composition of your platoons should be given a certain period/theater. ehhh...actually I was going to look up how the infantry should be laid out. From what I understand so far, if I put the individual men on bases as FoW stipulate I can use the same bases in other systems? I have a feeling we'll play FoW but since I've got Cold War Commander I might get a copy of Blitzkrieg Commander too. I think in the UK FoW is pretty popular in the 15mm scale?
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:38 |
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Has anyone played Chain of Command or Bolt Action at 15mm? I got some gift certs for miniatures for my birthday and I'm tempted to try out something in 15mm. Might make the ranges seem less 40k'ish (at least for Bolt Action).
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 20:48 |
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I've played Chain at 15mm, the ranges seem a lot more realistic and the D6 movement feels better because the guys appear to cover more ground. Plus you can get a whole army for the cost of a FoW blister and bases.
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 22:10 |
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Bolt Action question: Is it better to have squads with mostly matching weapons (so everyone has a rifle or everyone has an SMG), or to mix it up a bit? I can see both arguments, but having not actually played the ruleset yet, I'm curious how it work on the tabletop.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 12:42 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Bolt Action question: The thing that changes is how many dice you get a particular range. So the question is, do you want all your dice at every range or less dice at long ranges but more at close range? Personally I like mixed rifle units with the NCO having an SMG. But go with what you're comfortable with.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 13:13 |
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Matching weapons is nice if possible but the important thing is to maximize the number of order dice you have by having as many squads as possible, even if they have to be smaller. Also LMGs are almost never worth the two men given up by paying the points for them.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 13:52 |
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I never really thought about the LMG points. I have 500 points of British Airborne and 500 of German Heer, each have LMGs, so I may keep it just for consistency, but those are good points.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 14:03 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:Bolt Action question: It's better to arm historically or stop playing Warhammer WW2 😉
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 15:17 |
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These are historicals, you arm with whatever the Quartermaster gives you
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 15:25 |
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Sero won't be happy until everyone itt is playing rulesets that you can only order as scans of typewritten paper that are delivered by fax
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 15:26 |
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Serotonin posted:It's better to arm historically or stop playing Warhammer WW2 😉 Well it's the Red Army, so arming them "historically" is rather up in the air.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 16:22 |
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As the scenery in the vids is mostly historic I thought I'd post here. Lindy Beige: Making scenery for wargames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_qDkJFFNtE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTTUyXOIAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOYotmflDzE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl9PUJfRJTg Some of his techniques seem downright quaint compared to what some people do for scale model stuff; but I think there is good info to be found.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 17:32 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:10 |
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He seems like a dedicated luddite really. Got some great ideas, but very much wishes it were the 30's.
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