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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Man, this thread moves fast. Any help? It sure does. I don't have huge amounts of experience with steam streaming, but I have tried it out successfully a few times. To answer your questions, both computers need to be signed into the same account, the game needs to be installed on your "server" computer but not your "client" computer (and if it is installed on both, there should be a dropdown option next to the play button specifying which machine you want it to run on), the server computer absolutely needs to have a decent card, but the client machine still needs to not be total poo poo, and your router needs to be hefty/not busy or you'll get really annoying lag. Also, the server computer becomes unusable when running games - any keystrokes or mouse movements will be accepted along your own, just as if you were playing the game with 2 mice and two keyboards.
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vmdvr posted:It sure does. Thank you! One last question: is there considerable strain put on the server computer in streaming a game vs just playing it to begin with? Say my wife can play Skyrim at 60 fps at medium detail @ 720p, how much could that be expected to drop once the game is being streamed? Very sorry to not have the video card details, I'm not home right now.
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Quest For Glory II posted:That's not a problem with the algorithm and more a long, long-term problem that Steam has had in defining its genres. Those games are listed in the Steam database as "Adventure" games. Just like Tomb Raider and I think Far Cry 3 are considered "Adventure" games. I hope they eventually do recommendations based on your preferred tags. Have you considered starting a curator page for adventure games? I'm, like, 2/3 serious: finding the hidden gems in a semi-niche genre seems like a way better use for the curation system than endorsements from YouTube personalities.
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Movac posted:Have you considered starting a curator page for adventure games? I'm, like, 2/3 serious: finding the hidden gems in a semi-niche genre seems like a way better use for the curation system than endorsements from YouTube personalities. Down with this as well.
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Sep 23, 2014 20:39
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Thank you! One last question: is there considerable strain put on the server computer in streaming a game vs just playing it to begin with? Say my wife can play Skyrim at 60 fps at medium detail @ 720p, how much could that be expected to drop once the game is being streamed? Very sorry to not have the video card details, I'm not home right now. If you can make use of hardware encoding, the difference should be pretty minute. I have noticed that it'll occasionally screw up some gfx engines, though, but I can't say I have noticed any kind of pattern. At most, games run in OpenGL universally work for me (which has since become my favourite work-around for games that offer a selection of graphics API), but Skyrim (just to pick your example) creates awful compression artefacting when I try to stream it. No idea why. 
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Danmaku Dave posted:Huh, according to Steam.. Five Nights at Freddy's is a simulation game. It also really wants me to buy it, considering it keeps putting it in my recommended list. It's a very good game, especially if you stick with it all the way to the end.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Thank you! One last question: is there considerable strain put on the server computer in streaming a game vs just playing it to begin with? Say my wife can play Skyrim at 60 fps at medium detail @ 720p, how much could that be expected to drop once the game is being streamed? Very sorry to not have the video card details, I'm not home right now. If you have any halfway modern Nvidia card, you can use Shadowplay - their special recording/streaming software - and be able to stream 720p/60fps at effectively zero system resource cost. It does all the gruntwork on a dedicated encoder chip on your GPU. At worst, you might lose 2-3fps, but even that's unlikely. It even natively streams to Twitch, (optional) facecam, mic and all. If you're doing it all on your CPU, it'll probably put a dent in performance though. Not a massive one, but it's a pretty demanding process.
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Malek posted:Without spoilering it, what is the new content in Director's Cut of Shadowrun : Dragon Fall. I tried the original game but kept getting my poo poo clocked during the AI mission. There are at least 4 new missions (that I've found so far - I haven't finished the game yet) all of which have been excellent. Your main party members now "level up" more regularly, and you get to direct how they advance by picking x-com like perks for them (Your decker now can actually get the best deck!...if you choose that perk). There are also (I hear) a few new endings to the game. They've also completely overhauled the combat. It is a little tougher, but also a lot more rewarding. It's still not at X-com levels of strategy, but the comparison is no longer laughable. In a world without Wasteland 2 and Divinity:Original Sin, I feel that Dragonfall DC would be a shoe-in for RPG of the year. Heck, it still might be; I haven't even touched Wasteland 2 yet because I'm having so much fun with Dragonfall DC.
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Movac posted:Have you considered starting a curator page for adventure games? I'm, like, 2/3 serious: finding the hidden gems in a semi-niche genre seems like a way better use for the curation system than endorsements from YouTube personalities.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Not just a tutorial but there's no exploration until very late game and at that point it's just constant battles in a large but ultimately extremely boring field until you go back to linear hallways for the rest of the game. Having constant battles wouldn't be a problem if the combat was good. But it's not. You control a single character's moves while the rest of your party is on autopilot. You can change their roles but not actually control what they do.
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Your party members may be on auto-pilot, but at least they almost always choose the best possible action available to them, so there's that.
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vmdvr posted:There are at least 4 new missions (that I've found so far - I haven't finished the game yet) all of which have been excellent. Your main party members now "level up" more regularly, and you get to direct how they advance by picking x-com like perks for them (Your decker now can actually get the best deck!...if you choose that perk). There are also (I hear) a few new endings to the game. They've also completely overhauled the combat. It is a little tougher, but also a lot more rewarding. It's still not at X-com levels of strategy, but the comparison is no longer laughable. Does it assume you already know how to play? I got Shadowrun and the DLC a while ago but have not gotten around to playing it. I wonder if I should start with the OG campaign or Dragonfall.
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K. Flaps posted:FF 13 has one of the best battle systems that has ever been in an RPG. It also looks beautiful and has wonderful music, as well as challenging optional hunts, if you like to grind around and do 100% in an RPG. Don't tell me this because I'm drawn to games with good battle systems. Even JRPGs. I do have a mild guilty pleasure of grinding, too. So someone refute this. Please
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Morter posted:Don't tell me this because I'm drawn to games with good battle systems. Even JRPGs. The battle system is neat. The problem is that it takes about 20 hours for it to really open up. Everything up till then is a tutorial.
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Unlucky7 posted:The battle system is neat. The problem is that it takes about 20 hours for it to really open up. Everything up till then is a tutorial. People repeat this 20 hour number a lot, but in my experience it's more like 3 to 5 until the battle system gets interesting and challenging enough. Now I know that 3 to 5 hours still sound like a lot, but it's worth it imo.
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Unlucky7 posted:The battle system is neat. The problem is that it takes about 20 hours for it to really open up. Everything up till then is a tutorial. Do you actually learn new gameplay features/mechanics 20 hours in or is this massive exaggeration.
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Ragequit posted:Do you actually learn new gameplay features/mechanics 20 hours in or is this massive exaggeration. It's really more like 5-10 if you don't really care (I'll own up to that) and it's more that they won't let you do the really good poo poo until later.
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Ragequit posted:Do you actually learn new gameplay features/mechanics 20 hours in or is this massive exaggeration. After 15ish hours every character can take on every combat role, whereas before that they are only able to switch between two or three. If you have a party of 3, each with three different roles it's still 27 different combinations though.
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K. Flaps posted:After 15ish hours every character can take on every combat role, whereas before that they are only able to switch between two or three. If you have a party of 3, each with three different roles it's still 27 different combinations though. I've never had the chance to play FFXIII, so I've always wondered how this complaint really compares to the other FF games. I mean, in FFVI you don't get to make your own parties until like 15 hours in, and you don't even get all the characters until like 20.
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Unlucky7 posted:Does it assume you already know how to play? I got Shadowrun and the DLC a while ago but have not gotten around to playing it. I wonder if I should start with the OG campaign or Dragonfall.
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Zombie Samurai posted:I've never had the chance to play FFXIII, so I've always wondered how this complaint really compares to the other FF games. I mean, in FFVI you don't get to make your own parties until like 15 hours in, and you don't even get all the characters until like 20. It's the same in every Final Fantasy, and even most other jrpgs (Persona 4 starts with like 2 hours without a single battle, and it's still one of the best games ever made). The same is true with the complaints about linearity. Sure, FFXIII is very linear until a late point in game, but in older FFs it always took dozens of hours until you got your airship, too.
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Max Wilco posted:I was curious about this, too. If there's no tutorial in Dragonfall, is it worth picking up Shadowrun Returns when it goes on sale to get acquainted with the game? Otherwise, I was going to buy the director's cut, since everyone says the main campaign isn't worth playing. It ramps up. You'll be fine. It's not hard to pick up.
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Unlucky7 posted:Does it assume you already know how to play? I got Shadowrun and the DLC a while ago but have not gotten around to playing it. I wonder if I should start with the OG campaign or Dragonfall. A litte bit? There are a bunch of help pages you can read in DC, but that's about all you get. The original campaign used to do a decent job of easing you into the game systems and world, if by decent job you mean it took pretty much the whole campaign to do so, then had an absolutely abysmal and unfun final mission. So, not great. Plus, only Dragonfall DC got the awesome new combat changes. So my advice would be to only play the OG campaign if you've never played any shadowrun/cyberpunky and/or turn based RPGs before, and even then only play it until you start to get bored or annoyed. Otherwise, just go straight to Dragonfall DC (which is its own standalone game in steam, with its own steam entry, ie NOT the DLC dragonfall for Shadowrun returns) and see how you do with the first mission. If you feel you're having trouble, there's a thread on SA for the game here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3476514
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I'd argue Returns is worth playing. You really don't have to play it if you don't want to though, but if you're going to play it you should do so before Dragonfall because Dragonfall is the type of sequel that just really improves on everything to the point where its kind of hard to go back.
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Dominic White posted:If you have any halfway modern Nvidia card, you can use Shadowplay - their special recording/streaming software - and be able to stream 720p/60fps at effectively zero system resource cost. It does all the gruntwork on a dedicated encoder chip on your GPU. At worst, you might lose 2-3fps, but even that's unlikely. It even natively streams to Twitch, (optional) facecam, mic and all. This is your fault! Streaming Gauntlet shortly here. Note: Not Gauntlet's normal BGM.
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K. Flaps posted:It's the same in every Final Fantasy, and even most other jrpgs (Persona 4 starts with like 2 hours without a single battle, and it's still one of the best games ever made). The same is true with the complaints about linearity. Sure, FFXIII is very linear until a late point in game, but in older FFs it always took dozens of hours until you got your airship, too. The difference being, other games use these sequences to build the world and the characters in it. In ff13 they plop you in the middle of nonsense and you have to wait twenty hours until they tell you about anything that is going on and who any of these intolerable people are.
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K. Flaps posted:After 15ish hours every character can take on every combat role, whereas before that they are only able to switch between two or three. If you have a party of 3, each with three different roles it's still 27 different combinations though. Zombie Samurai posted:I've never had the chance to play FFXIII, so I've always wondered how this complaint really compares to the other FF games. I mean, in FFVI you don't get to make your own parties until like 15 hours in, and you don't even get all the characters until like 20. FF13 would have been a better game as a rail shooter.
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ffxiii might have been a decent game if it were released only on phones
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Orv posted:Streaming Gauntlet shortly here. Note: Not Gauntlet's normal BGM. Still a very solid BGM. 
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I made a curator page for bad video games that can easily be facecammed by sociable gamers in their 20s. I'm also looking for other gamehunters to add bad games to the list!! It's over here buddies.
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Kyrosiris posted:Still a very solid BGM.
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oversteps posted:Pretty much the perfect choice for a Gauntlet stream. I'm so excited to get home to play this game. I wish I could find more impressions of it to hype me up even further, but this thread might just be the biggest source of discussion that I can find. Then allow me to add another voice to the choir. It is pretty drat great. Someone more informed should probably make a thread for it, even if only to organize multiplayer groups. ZearothK fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Sep 23, 2014 |
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Stream over for now because good god it's 3PM and I haven't eaten today. We should get some Goon Gauntlet going tonight.
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Welp, finished Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate. The first two hours.. oh boy it's batman metroid!!! The last 5 hours.... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Orv posted:Stream over for now because good god it's 3PM and I haven't eaten today. We should get some Goon Gauntlet going tonight. Wizard needs food, badly.
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Drifter posted:Wizard needs food, badly. That wasn't intentional. 
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Would anyone mind shooting me an invite to the SA Goons steam group? Please and thank you! http://steamcommunity.com/id/S_J
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Mr. Fortitude posted:So the new Gauntlet is surprisingly good? It did catch my eye before but the relatively cheap price and complete lack of coverage gave me the impression it was going to be a stinker. It is good. Very good.
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I bought Gauntlet early based on early impressions reviews and am NOT disappointed at all. It plays really really really good. Definitely get it. Edit: Moved my 'looking for players' thing to the next page. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Sep 23, 2014 |
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S.J. posted:Would anyone mind shooting me an invite to the SA Goons steam group? Please and thank you! http://steamcommunity.com/id/S_J I think you need to ask that here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2584158
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