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FrozenVent posted:I was just watching Property Virgin and the host / realtor was going on and on and on about how the client lacked vision because she kept thinking about the sum total of her mortgage instead of the low low low monthly payments that she could totally afford with a few lifestyle change. Oh so that's what prudent financial planning is. A lack of vision. How the gently caress did realtors pick up corporate catchphrases E: also, imma leave rat poisoned steaks all around Guelph park this weekend gently caress you and your stupid loving dogs
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Cultural Imperial posted:E: also, imma leave rat poisoned steaks all around Guelph park this weekend Do you need some attention you feel you aren't getting? I have about 30 minutes before I go to bed to read...
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Pet ownership is not a human right holy poo poo. Even when dogs don't poo poo in hallways (I think I saw this twice in ~4 years at my new-ish Vancouver condo) they still bark, make hallways/elevators smell terrible all the time because it's Vancouver and rains all the time, and are really loud on hardwood floors.
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Dogs are awesome and people are insufferable, replace all condo owners with dogs
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I read an article a week or so ago about a condo project that was going to have a dog has an amenity. Like a strata-owned dog that the residents could "book" or "rent" or what ever. That kinda seems like a cool idea, I love dogs and often wish I had one but I'm much better hanging out with other people's dogs than deal with all the lovely aspects when they live with you full time. But that poor dog being raised by a bunch of loving condo owners. Dogs need training and consistent discipline, seems like a pretty lovely environment for the dog. Unless it's like an adult chill dog that's already trained and doesn't give a poo poo as to which human is currently petting and walking it. drat can't find the article. Was pretty sure it was for a Toronto condo and the shared dog was part of the pre-sales pitch.
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that's kind of messed up, where do liabilities fall there? I grew up with pets, love them, but im pretty firmly in the "if you cannot afford a pet - including the time and space for one, you don't get a pet. Why shut a dog up in an apartment? Seems cruel.
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It's hit and miss if a dog will be happy in a condo/apartment. I've known plenty of people with dogs in those sorts of situations, but they were never left alone a whole working day. Sometimes one person was able to go home for lunch to let the dog out and say hi. Sometimes they worked different shifts so the dog was only alone for 4-5 hours. Sometimes they had to spend a loving fortune on doggy daycare every day because their neurotic pure breed would get insane anxiety and have explosive diarrhea and destroy furniture and howl if left alone for more than an hour. I certainly wouldn't do it, nor would I get an indoor cat because litter boxes are disgusting. Maybe everyone with indoor cats I know just don't clean enough but where ever the litter box is is always covered in those little crystals and or it smells horrible. If you have a balcony though that often makes a good place for a litter box. I think though pet owners, just like parents, end up having to reduce their standards for what is "clean" and "doesn't smell horrible".
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Trying to position pet ownership as a human right is bullshit. You can't choose to be black or disabled but you sure as poo poo can choose to have a dog and deal with the consequences of ownership. Where did I position it as a human right? I said landlords shouldn't be able to discriminate on pet ownership. I did not say that it's a human right, or anything about the rest of your crap. There absolutely should be laws preventing landlords from rejecting tenants entirely on subjective factors. The right to housing is internationally recognized so I don't even know where you're going with this. What kind of subjective factors do you imagine that landlords should be allowed to exclude tenants for? I'm not sure why you're bringing up condos when we're talking about rentals, but a quick search shows that cat dander can be filtered out in central air systems and probably should be anyways because those filters block dust and mold too. Good luck finding a filter that will block out cigarette smoke though.
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Here's my wife and I searching for an apartment: :Hi! We'd like to rent your apartment. We are both working adults with no debt, non-smokers (tobacco or otherwise), we don't listen to loud music, we both work in the day so we're asleep by 11pm, we have quiet hobbies, we already have tenant's insurance and here's references from both our employers and previous landlord along with recent pay-stubs and a credit report.  :You sound like great tenants. We'd love to have you here.:We have a cat.  :gently caress YOU! GET OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU poo poo-SPAWN OF SATAN!I can understand a landlord trying to limit their risk exposure, but outright bans on pets treats every prospective tenant as if they were already an irresponsible pet owner. V V V V: Yes. Yes indeed. ductonius fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Sep 25, 2014 |
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Here's a solution: DON'T HAVE A PET
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-real-estate-breaks-2m-mark-east-of-fraser-street-1.2776611quote:A house at 846 E 27th Avenue, on a 33 ft. wide lot just east of Fraser Street has sold for the asking price of $2,150,000. And the realtor who listed it says the new buyers traded UP from their last home on the West Side. Keep buying motherfuckers! e: https://www.google.com/maps/place/8...8ba4a11e7df9a31 hahaha great decision you assholes namaste friends fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 25, 2014 |
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JawKnee posted:that's kind of messed up, where do liabilities fall there? Yeah at least if you have a single family house the dog can play and exercise in the yard.
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My in-laws are moving here (Victoria) in a few months and it's been really difficult trying to find a place that would let them keep their lab. It seems like 75-90% of rentals don't allow pets. That's the difference between age-restricted housing and restrictions on pets: age-restricted rentals make up a small fraction of potential rentals but the vast majority have restrictions on pets. It's a de facto ban. For all the crying of "well don't get a pet if you're renting!" what is someone supposed to do when they already have a pet? Being forced to give the pet up for adoption or, worst case, give it to the pound is traumatic for an animal bred to be a companion. I think it's pretty damning of BC landlords that other provinces have much more lax restrictions on pets but still, somehow, manage to not be bankrupted by destructive pets. Striking down the ability for landlords to disallow pets doesn't prevent their ability to evict tenants because their pet is a nuisance.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Here's a solution: DON'T HAVE A PET My favorite thing in Vancouver is people who somehow interpret "No pets" to mean "No pets. Except cats. They are fine because they poo poo in a box in my apartment and never leave, so it's not the same as a dog. So I'm just going to sneak it in."
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what the gently caress do you think chinese restaurants are for
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another loser posted:My favorite thing in Vancouver is people who somehow interpret "No pets" to mean "No pets. Except cats. They are fine because they poo poo in a box in my apartment and never leave, so it's not the same as a dog. So I'm just going to sneak it in." cats are the worst. cat people are even worse. here welcome to my home where everything smells like cat urea would u like some chardonnay
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eXXon posted:Where did I position it as a human right? I said landlords shouldn't be able to discriminate on pet ownership. I did not say that it's a human right, or anything about the rest of your crap. The only things you're legally not allowed to discriminate on are defined in the charter of rights and freedoms and a host of related civil rights precedent, thus saying pets shouldn't be a cause for discrimination puts them on the same plane as skin colour or sexual preference. It's stupid. Do you think their should be laws preventing other businesses from using their subjective opinion to make business judgement? Because there's a whole host of legal precedent that says they can do exactly that. If someone comes in to my place smelling of old socks and with unkempt hair you can bet your rear end I'm not renting to him no matter what he writes on the application form. He's demonstrated a clear lack of care for his own personal property so why the gently caress would I want him to use mine?
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Cultural Imperial posted:what the gently caress do you think chinese restaurants are for oh those coolies and their strange oriental ways 
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Cultural Imperial posted:what the gently caress do you think chinese restaurants are for What a terrible joke, everybody knows you can only get decent meat out of the bigger dogs.
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I say we just cut the Gordian knot on this pet issue and abolish landlordism.
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Sidakafitz posted:I say we just cut the Gordian knot on this pet issue and abolish landlordism. more like chinese puzzle
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eXXon posted:Where did I position it as a human right? I said landlords shouldn't be able to discriminate on pet ownership. I did not say that it's a human right, or anything about the rest of your crap. A tenant with pets poses a greater risk to the landlord's business. I don't see how that's subjective; have you ever been to a place where cat pissed had been left to sit in the carpet? Had a neighbour whose dog hollered all day long? Not allowing pets brings the risk of those things happening down to zero. I've also seen postings that specifically requested non smoking tenants, but I don't know how enforceable that is.
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FrozenVent posted:A tenant with pets poses a greater risk to the landlord's business. I don't see how that's subjective; have you ever been to a place where cat pissed had been left to sit in the carpet? Had a neighbour whose dog hollered all day long? Not allowing pets brings the risk of those things happening down to zero. Unless it's a precluded term under statute, if you agree to it in the lease it is enforceable. Usually the enforcement comes down to excess cleaning charges against the security deposit rather than eviction.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:The only things you're legally not allowed to discriminate on are defined in the charter of rights and freedoms and a host of related civil rights precedent, thus saying pets shouldn't be a cause for discrimination puts them on the same plane as skin colour or sexual preference. It's stupid. You sure demolished that straw man, good job. Kalenn Istarion posted:Unless it's a precluded term under statute, if you agree to it in the lease it is enforceable. Usually the enforcement comes down to excess cleaning charges against the security deposit rather than eviction. Ontario Law posted:May a landlord refuse to rent to a person who has pets? This law works quite well, thank you. The alternative is: aarp posted:For all the crying of "well don't get a pet if you're renting!" what is someone supposed to do when they already have a pet? Being forced to give the pet up for adoption or, worst case, give it to the pound is traumatic for an animal bred to be a companion. lol boil them it's okay I'm han chinese. Kalenn Istarion posted:Do you think their should be laws preventing other businesses from using their subjective opinion to make business judgement? Because there's a whole host of legal precedent that says they can do exactly that. If someone comes in to my place smelling of old socks and with unkempt hair you can bet your rear end I'm not renting to him Oh that's cool, should stores be allowed to refuse to sell to renters with unkempt hair? You are a tremendous shithead.
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Will someone just think of the pet owners?
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eXXon posted:You sure demolished that straw man, good job. There's a pretty big difference between someone buying their groceries and someone establishing a long-term contractually defined relationship.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:There's a pretty big difference between someone buying their groceries and someone establishing a long-term contractually defined relationship. You are a monster for not feeling guilty
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Cultural Imperial posted:You are a monster for not feeling guilty Not true. I harbor a deep and abiding sense of shame for being one of the landed gentry while the rest of the posters here are rentailures.
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Wait, I thought stores could refuse to sell to someone with unkempt hair? No shirt, no shoes, no service and all that?
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Not true. I harbor a deep and abiding sense of shame for being one of the landed gentry while the rest of the posters here are rentailures. scum
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Lexicon posted:Wait, I thought stores could refuse to sell to someone with unkempt hair? No shirt, no shoes, no service and all that? No you see being a shithead is s human right
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Cultural Imperial posted:No you see being a shithead is s human right See: this thread and all posts herein
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Kalenn Istarion posted:See: this thread and all posts herein your petty regionalism vancouver-style posting is a human right e: kicks a shiba inu
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Cultural Imperial posted:your petty regionalism Wrong again, I'm from (a small town outside of) Toronto, I just live in Vancouver 
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ITT: Why Canada is a declining banana republic in nearly every respect.
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Rime posted:ITT: Why Canada is a declining banana republic in nearly every respect. Bitumen constitutional monarchy 
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