Red posted:

Nah, Owen kind of dropped out of the picture around that time.

ChampRamp posted:

That's not true. Martel had a stint in early '98.

1st AD posted:

I should point out that in 1999 or thereabouts I posted on a bunch of pro wrestling message boards that Lance Storm should win the US title and then slap a Canadian flag sticker over it to get over as a heel, then they Literally did that on the next TV broadcast.

So Vince Russo is awful AND a plagiarist.

Bigass Moth posted:

I had that Bret Hart shirt!

Luigi Thirty posted:

1998 WCW merchandise catalog.

http://wcwworldwide.com/post/97615593254/wcw-merch-cat-1998

triplexpac posted:

Felony posted:

People actually bought WCW merchandise outside of nWo shirts?

Felony posted:

People actually bought WCW merchandise outside of nWo shirts?

MassRafTer posted:

You have to remember that while he was Canadian by birth he still had that place in Springfield.

Luigi Thirty posted:

If you wanna ride the Hulk Hogan Raft, brother, you're gonna need to dress appropriately.



that's a lot of words to say no black people

Bigass Moth posted:

It bans do rags, torn shirts, and baggy jeans? The Hulkster can't even go on his own ride brother, and that ain't right jack!

Felony posted:

People actually bought WCW merchandise outside of nWo shirts?

1st AD posted:

I had a Wolfpack shirt. I even bought the WCW soundtrack

Red posted:

Nah, Owen kind of dropped out of the picture around that time.

epitasis posted:

he died when he fell from the rafters during a live ppv (owen hart I mean)

LividLiquid posted:

or paying Stevie Ray seven-hundred-and-fifty-thousand dollars? That's absurd.

quote:

- Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Eddie Guerrero got new contracts around January of 1999, reported as three years for $1,350,000 ($400,000, $450,000, $500,000) apiece.

- Mikey Whipwreck and Hak (The Sandman) were initally reported as being in the $130,000 to $200,000 per year range. Hak's deal was later confirmed as $245,000 per year for three years, but WCW used a 90 day out cycle to release him in October 1999 when cost cutting was implemented and mass releases, including Whipwreck, and renegotiations of existing deals took place.

- Warrior wanted $2,500,000 per year in 1995 when WCW approached him. That money was considered outrageous and was a motivation for creating The Renegade gimmick with the guy getting a more reasonable $150,000 per year.

- Davey Boy Smith was making $400,000 per year when cut in April of 1999.

- Rick Rude, who had been working for the WWF and ECW without a contract, jumped to WCW in November of 1997 for $300,000 per year for three years from November 1997. He made $315,000 per year in his 1991-1994 stint.

- Goldberg was making $800,000 per year in the spring of 1999 as renegotiations occurred. I think he wound up getting something in the $3,000,000 or more per year range.

- Shane Douglas wanted $350,000 from the WWF but was told "no way". I'd forgotten they even talked given his bitter departure in late 1995. It wasn't made clear what WCW gave him.

- Scott Hall made $30,000 per week in mid 1999 which adds up to $1,600,000 per year, but WCW cut his pay by 50% during his lengthy spell on the shelf that year.

- WCW offered Chris Jericho between $425,000 and $500,000 to stay, but he turned them down figuring his WWF downside would be lower, but he'd make more with a push there that WCW wouldn't give him.

- It was written that Swoll got a one year deal for $400,000 in mid 1999. Fellow No Limit Soldiers Chase Tatum and Tank also got one year deals for undisclosed terms. All were said to have been eventually released.

- $900,000 for Karl Malone, $1,000,000 for Jay Leno, $2,250,000 for Dennis Rodman, $3,500,000 for Mike Tyson, and $200,000 per Nitro appearance for Master P. The Master P thing seems a lot crazier until you count up that he made maybe half a dozen appearances. Then his pay is still dumb, but more in line with the other celebrities.

- Jesse Ventura got $350,000 per year from WCW from 1992-1994.

- Lanny Poffo was getting $75,000 and wasn't even being used by WCW.

- KISS got $500,000 to play two songs on Nitro when The Demon debuted plus additional money for the wrestler's gimmick.

- WCW paid Raven $275,000 per year.

- Tazz wanted a $450,000 downside from the WWF, while it proposed $200,000. WCW offered more, but he went with the WWF after worrying about not getting pushed in WCW.

- Scott Norton got $800,000 per year before his deal either ran out in the fall of 1999 or he was flat out cut via a 90 day out cycle.

- Vampiro was getting $350,000 per year, but the contract had 90 day out cycles that WCW executed. WCW wanted him to take $175,000 in a new deal in October 1999, later increased to $200,000 per year with the chance to make money on outside merch, and a promise see about getting some extra money to him after the crisis ended.

- Wrath had $350,000 per year until November 1999 when a 90 day review cycle was used to renegotiate him downward.

- Stevie Ray got $750,000 per year until November 1999 when a 90 day review cycle was used to renegotiate him downward.

- Alicia Webb got $60,000 as of November 1999 to valet for The Maestro.

- DDP was getting $1,300,000 as of November of 1999 with two and a half years to go. Apparently with WCW approval, since it wanted to get salaries off the books, he used his contacts with Big Show and Big Bossman to see about WWF interest. The interest was there, but not at a guarantee for that kind of money, so he stayed put.

- Tank Abbott was getting $300,000 per year.

Rusty Shackelford posted:

Were the WCW and WWE contracts structured differently? It seems like the WCW ones were basically salaried positions while the WWE ones are (and were) structured with a base salary plus bonus and commission on merchandise.

Luigi Thirty posted:

If you wanna ride the Hulk Hogan Raft, brother, you're gonna need to dress appropriately.



either that's a lot of words to say no black people or Hogan can't even go to his own restaurant!

Bigass Moth posted:

Man, imagine if DDP had gone to WWF in 1999 when they were in serious need of star power.

quote:

- Tazz wanted a $450,000 downside from the WWF, while it proposed $200,000. WCW offered more, but he went with the WWF after worrying about not getting pushed in WCW.

Luigi Thirty posted:

If you wanna ride the Hulk Hogan Raft, brother, you're gonna need to dress appropriately.



either that's a lot of words to say no black people or Hogan can't even go to his own restaurant!

MassRafTer posted:

WCW's contracts were guaranteed (some lower tier contracts having 90 day termination cycles in them) but might have other incentives. You got paid X and had a maximum number of dates you had to work. This became a problem with Sting a couple of times.

WWE contracts are based on a percentage of revenue you generate with a baseline guarantee. You are paid based on house show gates, PPV, merch, etc but you cannot make less than X. These aren't really bonuses, they are how your pay is calculated.

Charles Gnarwin posted:

A bit of a bummer when you consider that Tazz didn't get pushed in WWF either.

triplexpac posted:

I thought that at first too, but Tazz did go on to have a long announcing career so I don't think he's too upset over the whole situation. If he was let go when they stopped using him in-ring it might have been a different story.