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That was pretty decent, the alien threat was underdeveloped but that wasn't really the point of the episode. I wouldn't mind having Pink as a second assistant (to be more of a dissenting voice/straight man), I assumed he was going to insist on joining them at the end of the episode.Payndz posted:This episode had some (mildly) amusing moments, but it's cemented something that's been developing all season: the show's become The Misadventures Of Clara rather than Doctor Who. This week, Clara has a big date with her hunky co-worker, but her wacky time-travelling
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Metal Loaf posted:"EAT THE FUCKIN' CHEESE, MASTER!" 
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Sep 27, 2014 23:18
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All that time running around Coal Hill School, and no way to work Ian into the plotline somehow?
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Sep 27, 2014 23:25
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Okay, seriously, how are we not all going monkey brain insane over Chris Addison?
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Sep 27, 2014 23:28
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Ms Boods posted:All that time running around Coal Hill School, and no way to work Ian into the plotline somehow? This  And I'm pretty sure William Russell would be willing to reprise the role in the actual show if asked - he's been pretty busy doing Big Finish audios (Companion Chronicles mainly, and as of late actually portraying the First Doctor in some stories) so clearly he has no disdain for the series/show.
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I think one of the interesting things about Capaldi Doc is that he isn't the point of view character. In the new series ever since Tennant took over the role, the pov has been pretty exclusively with the Doctor, and going back to following the companion around instead of the Doctor is weirding some people out it seems.
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remusclaw posted:I think one of the interesting things about Capaldi Doc is that he isn't the point of view character. In the new series ever since Tennant took over the role, the pov has been pretty exclusively with the Doctor, and going back to following the companion around instead of the Doctor is weirding some people out it seems. Really the Doctor has only been the point of view character since sometime in Matt Smiths second season.
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Afterlife as a hilarious bureaucracy is always fun to watch, dunno if they can pull it off though. Really enjoyed this episode, had me in stitches really. And yeah, the dollar store Matt Smith was amazing.
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I don't know if I would agree with that, you spend a good deal of time alone in the Tardis with Tennant. I understand we have had a few scenes so far with Capaldi alone, but it almost seemed more like it was as an observer rather than as a co-conspirator.
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Payndz posted:This episode had some (mildly) amusing moments, but it's cemented something that's been developing all season: the show's become The Misadventures Of Clara rather than Doctor Who. This week, Clara has a big date with her hunky co-worker, but her wacky time-travelling Never mind, Clara is going away. There's some sledgehammer-like foreshadowing going on in an ep that had so much heavy-lifting that on first watch really detracted from the silly dialogue for me. Perhaps it will then become Tales of Mr Pink, but personally I'm more worried that we're going to get hand-waved some new TARDIS feature that saves nearby Companions or others. You know what that means. Adric.
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Sober posted:Afterlife as a hilarious bureaucracy is always fun to watch, dunno if they can pull it off though. Afterlife as a bureaucracy is incredibly cliché and now thus always boring.
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Dabir posted:Jesus Christ Clara, how long did it take you to get to just coming out with the truth.
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PoshAlligator posted:Afterlife as a bureaucracy is incredibly cliché and now thus always boring. China will be disappointed to hear that.
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Ofaloaf posted:This was the most agonizing thing. For a character who's really assertive a lot of the time, Clara's efforts to avoid confronting any of that two-lives problem has been infuriating to watch. Keep in mind that her other life is INSANE. We're used to it because we're watching the show, but imagine telling the guy you've just started dating that the reason you're always so distracted and out of sorts is because you know a nigh-immortal time traveller who takes you on adventures through time and space every other day. Sure Danny had just seen some weird poo poo happen in the assembly hall, but most people aren't going to just naturally accept that there are aliens and temporal vortexes (keep in mind Moffat did away with RTD's "everybody knows about aliens but somehow society remains unchanged!" stuff). So she rather naturally tried to cover it up with yet another story, only this one was even more ridiculous than the alternative, and Danny is clearly somebody willing to accept the proof of his own eyes. I did laugh that the Doctor got confused and thought there really was going to be a play, though 
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I really, really liked the scene with Danny using the cloaking watch in the TARDIS. Him being less concerned that the Doctor's a mad alien spaceman, and more that he's a toff is fantastic, and the mocking "SAH, YES SAH!" thing warmed me up to him more in that one scene than all his bits previously. I hope they keep a bit of that once he inevitably starts travelling with them.
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PoshAlligator posted:Afterlife as a bureaucracy is incredibly cliché and now thus always boring.
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Sober posted:I didn't even know it was big enough of a thing to be cliche. The afterlife as bureaucracy? Oldest joke in the book. 
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Potsticker posted:Can the tv show use characters created by Big Finish? Paul McGann said some names for a web thing, but Thomas Hector Scofield showing up would be beyond amazing. Pages and pages ago, but I'd love to see Twelve and Evelyn Smythe go back and forth.
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Stop playing 11's theme on the previews, you jerks.  Dug this ep quite a bit. Capaldi's amazing.
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I strongly suspect it's a sham afterlife. In Into the Dalek we had The Doctor pick someone up just as they were about to die, and in Time Heist we had people getting teleported instead of killed as well. They might just be collecting Doctor "victims" and no-one else.
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That was my favourite Capaldi episode yet. I liked the jokes and bickering, a bit of character drama, it didn't feel rushed and the concept wasn't too silly for me to roll with. If the rest are half this strong this could end up being a pretty good season.
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I thought there was a lot of fun character stuff from everyone in this one. Capaldi's Doctor is clearly one that could hang with Rick from Rick and Morty.
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LividLiquid posted:Stop playing 11's theme on the previews, you jerks. God yes, that's such a tease. I liked the episode well enough, but the sound was wonky on my tv or something, so I think I'll have to rewatch to get a better handle on the dialogue.
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Signs and Wonders was really, really good. The whole Hector storyline is really good.
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Doctor Who as screwball comedy. I love it. Gareth Roberts's episodes tend to be a bit hit or miss for me, but this one worked so well. Danny's I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU attitude there at the end was pretty drat off-putting, but that's not a criticism of the episode. Quite the opposite. As long as the show doesn't leave it there, and I'm fairly certain it won't, just judging from Clara's reaction to it. Between that, though, and the way he interacts with and talks about the Doctor, I do feel like I have more of an idea of broadly what must have happened in his soldiering past now, and it's all developed rather more subtly than the HELLO NEW TEACHER DID YOU EVER KILL ANY CIVILIANS classroom scene we got a few episodes ago. The show's not been perfect, but the writing's been really smart this year, and I hope it continues.
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Best episode of the season for sure, and in my top few in the history of the show.
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I really liked 12's personality in the first half. I really hated 12's personality in the second half. One step forward, two steps back. C'mon show. I really want the show to move past this idiotic "scorned ex" thing they're doing with 12. I don't care what Capaldi, Coleman, and Moffat say, even if that isn't what they're trying to do with the character (it is) that's definitely the way it comes across. The first 15 minutes of this episode were great because they finally allowed Capaldi to give the character some characterization that wasn't "friendzoned redditor". I mean goddamn. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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I could've watched that episode all night. THE FLIP was rather silly though.
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Bad news for DoctorWhat: Lynda Bellingham, the Oxo mum and the only watchable character in Trial of a Time Lord other than Brian Blessed, has terminal cancer and expected to die within weeks. 
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What i'd really like to see (hoping jerusalem has some kind of catalog) is the .gif of "The flip" (Which was goofy but didnt really bother me) right next to Rory Ponds famous "The slide" from "Asylum of the daleks". (You know, for contrast or something)
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MattD1zzl3 posted:What i'd really like to see (hoping jerusalem has some kind of catalog) is the .gif of "The flip" (Which was goofy but didnt really bother me) right next to Rory Ponds famous "The slide" from "Asylum of the daleks". (You know, for contrast or something) Sure why not v  v
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TinTower posted:Bad news for DoctorWhat: Lynda Bellingham, the Oxo mum and the only watchable character in Trial of a Time Lord other than Brian Blessed, has terminal cancer and expected to die within weeks. I finished the third season of Gallifrey earlier this week. She was fantastic through the entire series, and had some great JNT stories on their "behind the scenes" filler disc. This is really sad.
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Jerusalem posted:Fun episode this week, but the alien menace stuff was the weakest part of it - it served as a great excuse to get the Doctor being awful at being undercover and lead to great interactions between the Doctor, Clara and Danny but I think I actually might have been happier if in the end the menace had turned out to be some innocuous piece of alien technology (maybe even something HE left behind) and given more room for the strain of Danny discovering Clara's double life. This was the same technique used in the The Power Of Three - the threat is a sideshow to focus on the main characters. Ms Boods posted:All that time running around Coal Hill School, and no way to work Ian into the plotline somehow? Wasn't he listed as the headmaster on a sign in the 50th? But besides that, true, I'm really surprised he hasn't done a cameo. Other random thoughts: I was a little annoyed that Clara had the finger-snapping-door-opener technique. I personally think that should be Doctor only. I don't think even River could/did do that? Were they foreshadowing a lot of death to come "soon"? All the other scenes with Missy were in comfortable surroundings, this time it was in City Hall. And her assistant said she was "busy"... I wonder if they will all pool their knowledge of Future Pink, now that all the coverups are done with. I'm really glad it appears that 12 has a consistent personality now. (Yes, I still hate his pointless bickering in Sherwood.) Really hated that the War Machine couldn't hit moving targets worth a drat. Not even someone doing The Flip Maneuver at point blank range. I know, I know, I said before this episode wasn't about the Threat, but still... RunAndGun fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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They managed bringing Abslom Daak into TV canon from the Marvel Doctor Who series from the 1980s. I am vaguely disappointed that Courtney Woods wasn't named Sharon Davies from the same series:
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What a disappointing, wretched pile of kack in this episode. I really like Capaldi and I like Clara as his conscience and companion but the ghastly sitcom poo poo with her new boyfriend and the doctor being a complete dick to him because "he doesn't like soldiers" is awful writing and I hope they'll drop that crap moving forward. Last week's Time Heist is the show I want to watch - adventures in wonderful places with the Doctor, not lovely retcons of the series. The whole new series has hammered home that the Doctor wasn't some bystander or last remaining watcher of things, he was a soldier in the Time Wars and Eckleston, Tennant and Smith all make mention of that. Now, Capaldi suddenly forgets that he was on the front lines himself? Way to poo poo all over your own storylines you jerks. The afterlife story arc for this season is not terribly compelling to me. Ho hum, mysterious lady and a bunch of dead folks in The Promised Land. Whatever. Move on to more actual adventures not a loving rehash of a plot that was stale when Three's Company did it. The grumpy, bickering, fairly rude Doctor is really making me laugh. His utter obliviousness to Clara is a decent source of comedy and fits in decently with the series as a whole. Here's hoping they will focus on telling adventure stories and gadding about the galaxy instead of writing more drivel like this week and the season opener.
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I'm sure the Doctor knowing he was a soldier plays into his mistrust of them. Remember he's still not sure of being a good person.
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Ian was listed as the Chairman of the School's Governors in Day of the Doctor. I would have loved to have seen him to but I don't know where it could have really been jammed in without doing the old boy justice. I do have high hopes that he'll make a cameo at some point though, if only to marvel at seeing Danny Pink filling in for his old role as somehow having incredible martial arts abilities for a schoolteacher RunAndGun posted:This was the same technique used in the The Power Of Three - the threat is a sideshow to focus on the main characters. That episode wasn't quite as good as this one, but it had the same "problem" where the interactions between Doctor, companions and other humans is really strong and interesting and the requisite alien menace stuff is not only sidelined but poorly executed to boot.
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Jerusalem posted:That episode wasn't quite as good as this one, but it had the same "problem" where the interactions between Doctor, companions and other humans is really strong and interesting and the requisite alien menace stuff is not only sidelined but poorly executed to boot. The Van Gogh episode had a similar problem, where there was clearly only a monster because There Has To Be A Monster. To say nothing of: 
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