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Strange Quark posted:What if you spend $200+ to play Golden and Dancing All Night. Please do spend 200+ bucks to play Dancing All Night. MrAristocrates posted:MGS3 on the go. That's all I need to justify my Vita. Gross Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Sep 27, 2014 |
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Sep 27, 2014 20:26
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The Vita is a nice system but it really isn't worth buying unless you've got a super hard-on for a very very specific type of game. (read: Monster Hunter clones or incredibly anime Compile Heart JRPGs.)
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Sep 27, 2014 20:47
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ImpAtom posted:The Vita is a nice system but it really isn't worth buying unless you've got a super hard-on for a very very specific type of game. (read: Monster Hunter clones or incredibly anime Compile Heart JRPGs.) It depends what you want out of it (and how cheap you can get one). For me, it was a way to play a bunch of PS1 and PSP games I haven't played before at Uni without having to bring my PS3 up, and it's been well worth it for just that. Add on to that all the indie games (which are available elsewhere, but you can play them on the go with a Vita) and the other obvious picks (P4G and the like), and a Vita becomes a pretty attractive prospect for a certain market. In addition, most of the games I want to play with it were given to me on PS Plus, so that's pretty awesome. Anybody who's been keeping up a subscription for a while ought to have a nice bundle of games to play immediately if they were to get a Vita. Memory card prices remain utter bull, though. 
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LITMUS TEST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-grhMSws4 MysticArksRevenge posted:That's all good with you, and everyone else in this drat country, but as for me, I want everything to be dark, violent and chaotic. If Persona 3 and 4 were never made, then maybe SMT can finally go back to its roots instead of having all of the bullshit I HATE (Dating simulations, lighthearted storylines, comedy) be a part of the series. The SMTs are supposed to be sad and to have an apocalyptic, controversial and heavily religious storyline. (Continued) MysticArksRevenge posted:(Continued) ATLUS created the Devil Summoner series for people who liked the SMT storyline, but wanted an action-oriented battle system. ATLUS created the Majin Tensei series for people who like strategy and tactical games, but have the same dark storyline as SMT. And what ATLUS wanted for Persona before they ruined it with Persona 3, they wanted an RPG for people who have just gotten a little bit into the MEGATEN franchise, with an easy to follow, but dark storyline. MysticArksRevenge posted:(Continued from last comment) ATLUS created the spin-offs for a reason- for different people to get into the MEGATEN series. If people wanted the same system as SMT but light-hearted, and more fantasy based, they had the Last Bible series, (which should still continue). If children wanted to get into the MEGATEN series, they had Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children, or Demikids as known here in the States. But unfortunately, those games WERE NOT as well-liked and didn't give them enough money. MysticArksRevenge posted:
MysticArksRevenge posted:That is EXXACTLY WHY Persona 3 and 4 suck in my eyes, and why they are and forever will be considered the worst in my eyes. Persona 1 and 2 will always be the best. BONUS ROUND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1OApK3nvQ MysticArksRevenge posted:Here is a good soundtrack that I especially like- it uses the kind of music I love- a hard-rock/metal styled soundtrack. If only more games nowadays used the kind of music used in this game. I am a fan of the PC Engine, and this game is one of my all time favorites. I feel that both the PC Engine (TurboGrafx-16) and the Sega Genesis should've been the most popular while Nintendo was dead last, and ended up failing. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 01:16
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There's something annoying about fans who insist that they know what a (game, movie, TV series, etc.) is "supposed" to be.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:32
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persona 3, a game whos main theme is death and peoples reactions to it, is light hearted persona 4, a literal murder mystery, is also light hearted NO megaten games EVER had even the slightest amount of humor in them before stupid babby for kids persona 3 and 4 showed up there is not enough  to go around in that dudes favorites section or even to describe him
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Sep 28, 2014 01:34
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It's funny how his opinions on things are based on whether those things are mainstream and well known or not. I bet he would love Persona 3 and 4 if they were exactly the same but less popular.
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Sep 28, 2014 01:58
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still cant wrap my head over why sperglords feel the need to grimdark the gently caress out of things you can tell the dude is only basing his opinions on videos rather than actually playing through them. Other wise he'd know about the dancing the wreck it ralph hateboner is an unforgivable sin though. seriously BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 02:09
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Race Realists posted:you can tell the dude is only basing his opinions on videos rather than actually playing through them. Other wise he'd know about the dancing Or how the original Persona was littered with anime-rear end sweatdrops and at least one boss battle set to music off a Jingle Cats CD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PycUlM-cu0 And I think in Persona 2 you could restore HP by visiting an aromatherapist. So that was pretty hardcore.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:16
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Innocent Sin has a subplot about how Lisa is a school idol and with her friends they form an idol group and have an anime song.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:18
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yea but you fight hitler you guys that instantly makes it  as gently caress
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Sep 28, 2014 02:19
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And more than half the Demon Negotiation (Did someone said it was in this game? Because it is, and it's annoying as hell in an already boring gameplay) were about as wacky and cliche as P4's worse moments.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:21
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Eikichi's family and school life is literally a Nickolodeon Sitcom.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:21
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How DARE you all imply something new is better than something old! You must like Micheal Bay movies, uncultured swine! 
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Sep 28, 2014 02:22
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From almost a year ago, but it's probably still relevant today, maybe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Znh1o1rJk
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Sep 28, 2014 02:28
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I guess I shouldn't have been running through Overclocked on NG+ with only a fifth of my attention span, but on the other hand I learned there's actually a decent number of unique lines in Yuzu's route if you let Haru die, and I got another chance to record the best line in the game.
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Sep 28, 2014 02:49
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Thanks for posting a bunch of youtube comments, I guess?
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Beef Waifu posted:Innocent Sin has a subplot about how Lisa is a school idol and with her friends they form an idol group and have an anime song. Her subplot is that she's a blonde american japanese girl who doesn't know english and is expected to sing a solo piece totally in english. cdyoung fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 05:17
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cdyoung posted:Her subplot is that she's a blonde american japanese girl who doesn't know english and is expected to sing a solo piece totally in english. Being raised by Steven Seagal will mess you up.
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ImpAtom posted:The Vita is a nice system but it really isn't worth buying unless you've got a super hard-on for a very very specific type of game. (read: Monster Hunter clones or incredibly anime Compile Heart JRPGs.) Ehh... I disagree. It's not just for Compile Hearts like stuff and MH clones on the system (some MH clones are great, try Toukiden). You can play all Persona games on the system and P3P/P4G are excellent. Atelier games are pretty good for crafting RPGs. If you want some good fighting games (on the go), its a great system. If you want indies on the go, it's a great system. Muramasa and Dragon's Crown are great action games. There are also couple Ninja Gaden which are great. There are a ton of games, but people keep bringing up "no gamez" thing. There are some nice platformers and most of other genres are represented decently enough. For some specific genres there is not that much, but overall, the library is quite rich. And yeah, if one likes some "anime" JRPGs, there are a ton of them on the system (a lot aren't great admittedly). Edit: Megaten fight video and that dancing video. Dying. Edit2: There are going to be 48 Megaten games released including stuff next year.... oblomov fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 06:00
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oblomov posted:Ehh... I disagree. It's not just for Compile Hearts like stuff and MH clones on the system (some MH clones are great, try Toukiden). You can play all Persona games on the system and P3P/P4G are excellent. Atelier games are pretty good for crafting RPGs. If you want some good fighting games (on the go), its a great system. If you want indies on the go, it's a great system. Muramasa and Dragon's Crown are great action games. There are also couple Ninja Gaden which are great. There are a ton of games, but people keep bringing up "no gamez" thing. There are some nice platformers and most of other genres are represented decently enough. I own a Vita. I play my Vita tons. The library is terrible. It is largely ports and ports that run significantly worse than they do on any other system. (Including games like Spelunky which I've none the less put countless hours into but which has no excuse for the massive slowdown present). Games like Borderlands or the Ninja Gaiden ports are kind of inexcusably terrible. Even games where the poor optimization doesn't impact the gameplay, like Atelier, still run pretty drat bad. The few games it has which are not ports are games which will drive people off due to either their content or their perceived content. The library is rich if you are looking for two very specific thing: poorly optimized portable ports of games you can get cheaper elsewhere or incredibly Japanese JRPGs. This happens to work for my own needs so I play mine a bunch but I'm not under any illusions that makes it a good library despite it working for me. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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I still disagree. Ports are mostly quite serviceable (i.e. Atelier has some frame drops but overall is great on Vita), but there are plenty of great ones (Rayman, FFX, DW8 for example) and some original games. Looking at my game library (in no particular order): - Uncharted - performs great, awesome game, my favorite Uncharted after 2 - Gravity Rush - simply excellent game - VLR - must have if you liked 999 on DS (better then 3DS version, IMO) - Muramasa - excellent, excellent game, performs great - Dragon's Crown - great game, slows down with lots of enemies, but that's how beat 'm ups supposed to be! - P4G - enough said - Sly Cooper - there are some frame rate drops but very serviceable and great game - Sanic Racing - great Mario Cart clone - Rayman Origins - performs great and looks excellent on Vita - MK - looks like poo poo, but plays great - DAO 5 Plus - looks great, plays great (best fighting game on any handheld) - Blaz Blue - looks great, plays great - Guilty Gear - looks great, plays great - Akiba's Trip - looks pretty good, love the game play, loading times suck but they suck on PS3 too - Danganronpa - looks great, plays great - FF X - looks awesome, plays great - SAO - looks great, plays great, ignore translation - Atelier games - look great, play great, some frame drops but very very serviceable - Guacamelee - looks great, plays great (have it on PS4, like it better on Vita) - Ys Celceta - great game - MSG HD Collection - love it on the platform, performs pretty well - Killzone - best shooter on portable ever - Toukiden - awesome MH like game, with great performance and gameplay - Disgaea 3 - works great on vita (yes, old port, but 4 is out too and both work very very well on handheld) - Demon Gaze (sold off at first, but then got it on sale and actually it turned out better then expected) - Miku f - great game, plays very well The above is not a full list, just my retail English games and digital currently loaded on the Vita. I am not including online games not loaded; ton of indies; Japanese imports; and PS1/PSP library. Having all Persona games on one platform is a bonus (will never ever replay the first one). Overall Vita provides (to me) a better library then my 3DS, for example. For MT thread, both handhelds are a must, IMO. oblomov fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 06:42
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It's funny because almost every game on that list is either a game I have on a platform where it runs better and is better suited for (Fighting games on handhelds are garbage and always will be.) or a game that is a worse version of a franchise that works better else were. The rest are okay platformers and P4G.
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Sep 28, 2014 07:36
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The mobile ports of Disgaea are invariably better than the console ones. I'm happy with my Vita, but I'm really not sure about calling VLR better on Vita if only because of the crash bugs and save deletion bugs.
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neongrey posted:The mobile ports of Disgaea are invariably better than the console ones. I'm happy with my Vita, but I'm really not sure about calling VLR better on Vita if only because of the crash bugs and save deletion bugs. Isn't it the 3DS version that has those bugs? I thought the Vita version was bug-free.
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oblomov posted:I still disagree. Ports are mostly quite serviceable (i.e. Atelier has some frame drops but overall is great on Vita), but there are plenty of great ones (Rayman, FFX, DW8 for example) and some original games. Looking at my game library (in no particular order): What? Half the games you mentioned don't "run great." You're passing off terrible slowdown as "that is how beat 'em ups are supposed to be" or ignoring that the Atelier games often drop into single-digit FPS which only means they're not unplayable because they're slow-paced JRPGs. You have immensely low standards based off this list. There are a few on there that are better (the Disgaea games) but that's about it.
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ImpAtom posted:What? Well yeah, we're talking about how happy he is with the Vita library. I thought that was an assumed thing.
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One of the biggest draws to the Vita to me is portability. Hell yeah I wanna be able to play Persona 4 Golden and Final Fantasy X in bed and not be chained to my TV for 100 hours. I want more appealing titles before I purchase one but Portable RPGs are a nice plus to me. If that's not your thing though, I can understand a Vita being pretty lame.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:46
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Moltrey posted:One of the biggest draws to the Vita to me is portability. Hell yeah I wanna be able to play Persona 4 Golden and Final Fantasy X in bed and not be chained to my TV for 100 hours. I want more appealing titles before I purchase one but Portable RPGs are a nice plus to me. Portable RPGs are nice when you can just save anywhere and just pop it on and off, and that is not something SMT or FF is exactly known for. Hell, for portability the 3DS SMT games and RPGS are a lot better at that.
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Moltrey posted:One of the biggest draws to the Vita to me is portability. Hell yeah I wanna be able to play Persona 4 Golden and Final Fantasy X in bed and not be chained to my TV for 100 hours. I want more appealing titles before I purchase one but Portable RPGs are a nice plus to me. Portable RPGs are a nice feature, especially with the Vita's sleep mode drawing like no energy so you can just turn it on and off at will. It's just that you have to be a pretty specific kind of gamer for that to make you shell out for the system + insane memory card prices.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Portable RPGs are nice when you can just save anywhere and just pop it on and off, and that is not something SMT or FF is exactly known for. Hell, for portability the 3DS SMT games and RPGS are a lot better at that. But you can just pop the Vita on and off. Just push the power button and it goes into sleep which it can stay in for literally days with a game right where you left it when you turn it back on.
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I am not sure what the heck are you guys talking about with standards here. We are in the Megaten thread where the next entrees encompass a fighting game, a chibi dungeon crawler with no continuity whatsoever, and a dancing rhythm game (yes, that whole P5 thing is coming sometimes next year). From performance standards, I haven't seen Atelier drop into single frames (Totori/Meruru) and framerate is not all that worse then PS3. DC drops, yeah, but again, if you look at beat 'm ups, it's pretty darn good game with a lot of re-playability, great options and ARPG skill trees. Vanillaware is also a great company and DC is a great game with admittedly controversial art. It's actually a very small studio and DC with their $1mil budget was by far their most expensive games so take that into account. They'd be considered indie studio in the West. Oh and the thing with Vita, yeah, portability with their suspend functionality and long battery life (esp. with flight mode on) is a winner with RPGs. Crafting RPGs like Atelier or games with episodic battles like Disgaea work very well with that. Heck, that's the reason I picked up FFX on the Vita as well. Would have loved to be able to play Nocturne like that mode (come on PS2 compatibility for PS4, suspend and vita remote play). We need to get Vanillaware x Persona crossover, think of the possibilities. Oh, and this argument really should have been in the vita thread. Edit: Also, on memory card prices, it's not that bad. You can get 16gb on sale for under $30 and that's enough if you clean your system (backup to PS3/Computer/PS+) and get bigger games on carts (SAO/Atelier are unfortunately digital only). You can get 64GB for $95 on Amazon right now and 32GB has been below $60 on sale. oblomov fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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I like my Vita. I've got plenty of games on it that are fun and/or great. And since my PSP died I transferred all my digital PSP games to it, including my favorite game of all time Tactics Ogre. I've got Persona 1, 2, 2, 3 and 4 on it.
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oblomov posted:We need to get Vanillaware x Persona crossover, think of the possibilities. Oh, and this argument really should have been in the vita thread. You can just play Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters, coming soon to your Playstation Vita, since it combines the vaguely flash animation aesthetic of Vanillaware's catalog with the high schoolers fighting the supernatural aesthetic of Persona.
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oblomov posted:I am not sure what the heck are you guys talking about with standards here. We are in the Megaten thread where the next entrees encompass a fighting game, a chibi dungeon crawler with no continuity whatsoever, and a dancing rhythm game (yes, that whole P5 thing is coming sometimes next year). What does genre have to do with standards? Yes, the dungeon crawler is a silly game. It is also from a team who is known to make well-designed and generally well-regarded dungeon crawlers. oblomov posted:From performance standards, I haven't seen Atelier drop into single frames (Totori/Meruru) and framerate is not all that worse then PS3. This is objectively untrue, straight-up. You may not notice it but it's extremely well documented and is pretty easily provable by having the two run right next to each other. Atelier's framerate isn't perfect on consoles but it is terrible on Vita. oblomov posted:Edit: Also, on memory card prices, it's not that bad. You can get 16gb on sale for under $30 and that's enough if you clean your system (backup to PS3/Computer/PS+) and get bigger games on carts (SAO/Atelier are unfortunately digital only). You can get 64GB for $95 on Amazon right now and 32GB has been below $60 on sale. I have no idea how you can say "they're not that bad" and then follow it up with extremely terrible prices. 64gb for $95 is loving nuts. That is like at minimum 150% markup over other matching sizes.
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RPGs and platformers are great fits on a handheld and where I prefer to play them, but I'll never understand the appeal of portable shooters.
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Manatee Cannon posted:RPGs and platformers are great fits on a handheld and where I prefer to play them, but I'll never understand the appeal of portable shooters. Um Aya Brea's clothes fall off when she takes damage? Can you say the same thing about console/PC shooters? (I didn't actually play The Third Birthday so I don't know if it really counts as a shooter or not.) TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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ImpAtom posted:What does genre have to do with standards? Yes, the dungeon crawler is a silly game. It is also from a team who is known to make well-designed and generally well-regarded dungeon crawlers. Oh, I am not saying that PQ is going to be terrible (pre-ordered it and P4AU), but lets not put it on any sort of a pedestal, it's going to be a pretty silly game (nothing wrong with that). DC is a great game within beat'em ups genre. Muramasa is a great action game (on Vita, not sure how it was on Wii). Now, Code of Princess is very much mediocre in that same genre. P4A and P4A U are surprisingly good fighting games in that whole 2D fighting game club. I liked P4A better then say BlazBlue. For Atelier, I am going to have to search the internets to see how it's done then. I honestly haven't noticed and played both for PS3 and Vita (most of Totori on vita and some Meruru). I couldn't tell you about the Rorona remake though. For memory pricing, yes, it's higher then say microsd (for upcoming n3DS), but it's not insanely higher like it used to be. Also, 16GB and 32GB while higher are not that bad considering proprietary system and the fact that system price itself is pretty good for the handheld in question. It's all relative. Paying $25-30 for a memory card which is enough if you are somewhat diligent about housekeeping and don't go all digital is not bad.
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TurnipFritter posted:Um Aya Brea's clothes fall off when she takes damage? Can you say the same thing about console/PC shooters? Killzone is the only one which is decent so it's not like there is a huge amount of them. And yes, agree on this one, but then again, to me shooters belong on PCs.
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