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Nehru the Damaja posted:Between the top 32 of Indy and Jersey combined to 64 decks, something like 12 didn't Courser/Caryatid I think. I am willing to wait and see how things shake out but I don't think anyone who paid any remote attention is surprised by this development. I would be surprised if Courser/fetchland interaction isn't always relevant, and if you run that Caryatid typically makes a lot of sense too.
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Do you guys think that a Mono-red burn with prowess creatures can be a thing? It sounds like it could work, you can have something like: T1:Monastery Swiftspear T2-T99: Burn while beating face with grown swiftspear
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Sep 28, 2014 10:17
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Unsurprsingly, Dig Through Time was an all star every time I saw it cast.
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Sep 28, 2014 10:25
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A most excellent thread title. Also gently caress Azban and their loving 4/4 Lifelink Giraffe riders in draft. Sultai (and soon Mardu) fo lyfe! Edit: Going to try to get back into standard, really liking the cards that came out of khans. I'm thinking a token oriented deck with Rabblemaster, Mardu cards and some convoke stuff. Then just trumpet blast people down. Thisuck fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Sep 28, 2014 10:25
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superstepa posted:Do you guys think that a Mono-red burn with prowess creatures can be a thing? there is too much good burn in colors besides red to make a mono red build viable
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Sep 28, 2014 10:48
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Attorney at Funk posted:No way, this is: I actually know him... He works at TOGIT
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Sep 28, 2014 13:42
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LordSaturn posted:Alex Bertoncini is one of the leading names in tournament magic cheating, in this age of video replays letting us all watch him cheat long after he's gotten away with it. "Two Explores"
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Sep 28, 2014 14:43
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Jeskai Tempo vs. Mardu Midrange in the SCG Open Finals. So cool to see the wedges doing well.
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Sep 28, 2014 15:05
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Steam Augury on the finals table! 
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Sep 28, 2014 15:42
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Count Bleck posted:Steam Augury on the finals table! Narset is on the board and protected from crackling doom Hits: Stoke the flames and 3 misses
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Sep 28, 2014 15:42
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Devor posted:Narset is on the board and protected from crackling doom DOUBLE STOKE THE FLAMES FOR MATCH POINT
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Sep 28, 2014 15:43
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Count Bleck posted:
Narset....pretty loving good.
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Sep 28, 2014 15:44
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Devor posted:Narset is on the board and protected from crackling doom Sarkhan wasn't a miss, had that not been lethal he could have played it post-combat.
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Sep 28, 2014 15:45
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burntnorton posted:Sarkhan wasn't a miss, had that not been lethal he could have played it post-combat. Narset seems a lot better than I give her credit for now.
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Sep 28, 2014 15:47
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burntnorton posted:Sarkhan wasn't a miss, had that not been lethal he could have played it post-combat. Oh man, I thought it was instants and sorceries, not 'noncreature'. Jesus Christ.
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Sep 28, 2014 15:49
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The only misses for Narset are Lands and Creatures. Everything else is a hit but still subject to normal "timing" rules for casting them.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:36
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Pretty good open. Wonder if/when/how control may develop. It would be pretty funny if it just didn't, and midrange ruled the roost. I think they'd make some quick (for magic) changes to removal, sweepers, counters if they just ended up killing aggro and control in one fell swoop. It may just be a quirk of this standard but Caryatid and Courser do so much to just stuff aggro, and green-X midrange can easily side in the 3cmc aggro sweepers in black and red. Woops.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:43
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superstepa posted:Do you guys think that a Mono-red burn with prowess creatures can be a thing? There is a deck like this, it's called SubSligh. Check the brewhaus. It's capable of turn 3 kills.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:48
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jassi007 posted:Pretty good open. Wonder if/when/how control may develop. It would be pretty funny if it just didn't, and midrange ruled the roost. I think they'd make some quick (for magic) changes to removal, sweepers, counters if they just ended up killing aggro and control in one fell swoop. It may just be a quirk of this standard but Caryatid and Courser do so much to just stuff aggro, and green-X midrange can easily side in the 3cmc aggro sweepers in black and red. Woops. They've been pushing for just midrange durdles for the past few years though. Pure aggro, combo and control have been getting weaker while the G/B/x decks have gotten all the fun toys and push everyone into midrange because the best cards are in those colors.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:48
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I'm glad to see Narset win a tournament. The card seems to get underestimated because it's a 3-power creature for 6, but she really does do something fundamentally broken. She also seems to be in a good place right now since Crackling Doom and End Hostilities are about the only things that kill her. That Jeskai Deck looks so sick, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more copies of Narset.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:50
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There was one deck listed as "Control" in the top 50 (ie top 25 of NJ/IN) and it got 7th in NJ: R/W Control http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=73400 Interestingly, Anger was the main 4-of sweeper in the deck and the only copy of End Hostilities was a singleton in the sideboard.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:54
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L0cke17 posted:They've been pushing for just midrange durdles for the past few years though. Pure aggro, combo and control have been getting weaker while the G/B/x decks have gotten all the fun toys and push everyone into midrange because the best cards are in those colors. I have noticed I guess I just don't get why. The outcome of such a thing is decks that are really similar. It gets closer to "what color do you like besides green?"
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Sep 28, 2014 16:54
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Lets Pickle posted:I'm glad to see Narset win a tournament. The card seems to get underestimated because it's a 3-power creature for 6, but she really does do something fundamentally broken. She also seems to be in a good place right now since Crackling Doom and End Hostilities are about the only things that kill her. Anger of the Gods, also.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:56
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Lets Pickle posted:She also seems to be in a good place right now since Crackling Doom and End Hostilities are about the only things that kill her. Also Drown in Sorrow and Anger of the Gods. But forcing them to keep their sweepers meant for aggro against your burn deck is kind of a win. E:f;b
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Sep 28, 2014 16:56
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The new control colours could go any way though, it's not obvious what the best setup is: I suspect Mardu, because it has red for Anger of the Gods/Stoke the Flames, black for Drown in Sorrow, Bile Blight and Hero's Downfall, and white for Banishing Light and End Hostilities. Then you have Elspeth and Sarkhan as finishers.
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Sep 28, 2014 16:59
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Lets Pickle posted:I'm glad to see Narset win a tournament. The card seems to get underestimated because it's a 3-power creature for 6, but she really does do something fundamentally broken. She also seems to be in a good place right now since Crackling Doom and End Hostilities are about the only things that kill her. That Jeskai Deck looks so sick, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more copies of Narset. If you listen to the guy who won, he said that she's just a 1 of in the sideboard for removal-heavy matchups. Making it out like Narset was the cornerstone of the deck is a bit inaccurate.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:00
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:If you listen to the guy who won, he said that she's just a 1 of in the sideboard for removal-heavy matchups. Making it out like Narset was the cornerstone of the deck is a bit inaccurate. Yeah, when you have to get to 8 mana in a burn-heavy deck to really get to use her (6 drop + 2 for counter), there's just no way she can be considered anything other than a sideboard card. Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for the Narset kill both times it happened on camera, but it's clearly a cool niche finisher rather than anything amazing.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:03
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Yea, Narset was just a fun one-of anti-control finisher, that's it. The cornerstone creature of the deck is mantis rider really, that card is absurdly good in the current format.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:10
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Jeskai Tempo looks sweet. Also funny in how it's playing none of the cards articles were harping on about.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:35
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Ascendancy Combo 11th Andrew Baeckstrom StarCityGames.com Standard Open 2014-09-27 Indianapolis So I guess this means that combo is a thing in standard.
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Zorak posted:Jeskai Tempo looks sweet. Also funny in how it's playing none of the cards articles were harping on about. I just listened to the first Constructed Resources article where they're really down on Jeskai in general and say Mantis Riders looks OK but there just doesn't seem to be any deck for it. Constructed is way harder to predict than Limited.
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Sep 28, 2014 17:41
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Korak posted:Ascendancy Combo 11th Andrew Baeckstrom StarCityGames.com Standard Open 2014-09-27 Indianapolis I don't think you can say any deck is a "thing" in standard based on the first open of the block since nobody really knows whats in anyone else's deck.
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Sep 28, 2014 18:00
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Sure Narset was a SB card here, but seeing her win the finals on-screen means that people will at least be trying to make her work, so I'm sure we'll see more of her soon. When was the last time a "cast spells without using actual mana" mechanic wasn't really strong?
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Entropic posted:I just listened to the first Constructed Resources article where they're really down on Jeskai in general and say Mantis Riders looks OK but there just doesn't seem to be any deck for it. Constructed is way harder to predict than Limited. This. I'm sure that nobody consider a tempo deck that was 3 colors that centered on a 3 drop. Now that I look at it, its like slow UR delver, but since most other decks are durdly too, it works out.
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Sep 28, 2014 18:07
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Do these people not remember Lightning Angel? How can you look at Mantis Rider and not see an obviously playable card?
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Sep 28, 2014 18:10
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jassi007 posted:This. I'm sure that nobody consider a tempo deck that was 3 colors that centered on a 3 drop. Now that I look at it, its like slow UR delver, but since most other decks are durdly too, it works out. It's not like mono colored aggro was absent.
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stinkles1112 posted:Do these people not remember Lightning Angel? How can you look at Mantis Rider and not see an obviously playable card? It was more of if there was a viable deck to put it in, not the card.
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Sep 28, 2014 18:11
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Zorak posted:Jeskai Tempo looks sweet. Also funny in how it's playing none of the cards articles were harping on about. I'll officially eat crow on it; good cost for the abilities, but didn't think non-control Jeskai would be a thing so early. Sidisi is also much better than I'd thought.
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Sep 28, 2014 18:19
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BJPaskoff, the New Brewhaus thread is up: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668234
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Honestly I think the palming a Kira on camera was a better cheat but for reasons absolutely alien to me the guys is allowed to keep playing in big tournaments instead of receiving a lifetime ban.
I Love You! fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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