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Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



There are some things you just don't joke about, man.

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Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

greatn posted:

Where are you getting that information?

It's legit, my uncle who works at Nintendo confirmed it.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Regy Rusty posted:

It's legit, my uncle who works at Nintendo confirmed it.

I just called Nintendo, your uncle was fired.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


The biggest fault of this game is making Agitha a playable character but not Groose.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Oxyclean posted:

The biggest fault of this game is making Agitha a playable character but not Groose.

I feel like I'm about to be exiled into the phantom zone for saying this but, I don't like Groose, he just never clicked for me as anyone I'd care about ingame.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

Judge Tesla posted:

I feel like I'm about to be exiled into the phantom zone for saying this but, I don't like Groose, he just never clicked for me as anyone I'd care about ingame.

Greetings, I will be escorting you to the Phantom Zone. Say goodbye to your loved ones

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

MarquiseMindfang posted:

Can someone give me a how-to-Zant and how-to-Ghirahim because they're really not clicking for me.

For Zant, mash on the combo finisher button to keep the combo going until his bar is full. Don't go past the end of the bar or you'll be stunned and the bar will empty. BY and BBY don't feel that good for me, but BBBY is AMAZING for clearing large groups and can get stronger things like lizalfos and shield moblins caught up in it too. BBBBY and BBBBBY do good damage to strong enemies if you can pull it off without being interrupted.

When the bar is full, press strong attack to go into full crazy mode. Now you can mash light attack to spin around like a lunatic - also great for clearing entire rooms - or mash strong attack to rapid-fire magic bullets at a single target.

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

MarquiseMindfang posted:

Can someone give me a how-to-Zant and how-to-Ghirahim because they're really not clicking for me.

Ghirahim is functionally a ranged character. His basic combo works from the full screen away, and nearly all of his moves either teleport him around the field to hit enemies that were far away or have projectiles zip in/out from the distance instead. BBBYYY is one of his better moves, it spawns a group of shadow moblin that will rush forward and start killing/collecting anything in their path. His special attack is an AOE directly in front of him, so it works well as a starter instead of a finisher for keep-clearing since all of his other attacks will reach even further.

His strong attack is a "string of fate", lock on to a target and use the attack. It makes your next series of strong attacks seek out and home whatever you're attached to, use it for long-range weakpoint smashing.


Also, be sure to dash after the end of an attack, as it will cancel any of his flourish animations.

Emalde fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Oct 2, 2014

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Also, if you get several stronger enemies caught up in Zant's spin or BBBY, it'll end with them perfectly positioned for his special, which is probably already charged from all those mooks you just killed.

Edit: you might have to run forward a bit after the BBBY, but they'll be clustered together is what I meant

Suaimhneas fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Oct 2, 2014

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I wish when you unlocked a character in adventure mode there was an immediate normal keep capturing mission to practice with them. It's hard to get the feel for a new character on the more gimmicky ones. I guess I should just suck it up and practice on free play with Agitha and Ruto.

Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 2, 2014

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
I just discovered YYYXX, dodge cancel, X with Lana's book and holy poo poo it rips things to shreds. Even Zant was being thrown around like a puppet

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

So figured out how the summoning gate works. It's pretty neat but the fact it's slow and RNG based damages its usefulness super hard

YX - Dodongo, a mini one hops out and rolls forward
YYX - Manhandla, a sprout will pop up and wiggle around hurting anything near it. Junk.
YYYX - Ghoma, tiny Ghoma pops out and tackles whatever is in front of it and does a spin
YYYYX - Argarok, shows up and spins around in place spewing fire.

None of these are terribly impressive outside the plant but if you hit X you'll summon a random boss to do another attack, you then start glowing and if you use one of the above combos it improves it (but only if you summon the same monster)

YX - 3 dodongo's appear, roar and shoot a 3 way fire ball shot that clears a wave in front of them
YYX- Manhandla sprouts up in the middle and does it's normal thing, then when it's over two more pop up and Lana slowly walks forward with them while beating up everything in front of her.
YYYX - I seriously can't get Ghoma to pop back out after figuring this out so will edit it in later if requested.
YYYYX - Lana hops onto the back of Argarok and shoots a fire ball or two while flying around and then suicide bombs it

I think that's everything?

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Gohma's upgraded special summons 2 of them either side like the Dodongo, and they do a sweeping conal laser in front of each of them.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

After using deku stick Lana a bit more, I think I'd like her more if they swapped the slingshot with her noncombo strong attack. I think she still has a lot of crummy attacks, though.

Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

I used quite a bit of spear Lana last night and I think it's... okay? Overall it's pretty sluggish but it has some good crowd clearing abilities in her standard attack combo and in YYYYX (I think? It's the one where she pulls out the leaf and blows everyone away.).

My biggest complaint is the special on it is just so underwhelming it's not fun to use.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Kaubocks posted:

I used quite a bit of spear Lana last night and I think it's... okay? Overall it's pretty sluggish but it has some good crowd clearing abilities in her standard attack combo and in YYYYX (I think? It's the one where she pulls out the leaf and blows everyone away.).

My biggest complaint is the special on it is just so underwhelming it's not fun to use.

Yeah, the special is kind of cool visually but it seems like it takes forever to go away. If they cut out Lana patting the tree (???) then it would be way more bearable to me.

Doc V
Mar 20, 2010

Emalde posted:

Ghirahim is functionally a ranged character. His basic combo works from the full screen away, and nearly all of his moves either teleport him around the field to hit enemies that were far away or have projectiles zip in/out from the distance instead. BBBYYY is one of his better moves, it spawns a group of shadow moblin that will rush forward and start killing/collecting anything in their path. His special attack is an AOE directly in front of him, so it works well as a starter instead of a finisher for keep-clearing since all of his other attacks will reach even further.

His strong attack is a "string of fate", lock on to a target and use the attack. It makes your next series of strong attacks seek out and home whatever you're attached to, use it for long-range weakpoint smashing.


Also, be sure to dash after the end of an attack, as it will cancel any of his flourish animations.

Ghirahim's strong attack also makes his combos more effective against the enemy you target. I'm not entirely sure what the exact effects are, but at the very least it makes weak point gauges go down a lot faster.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Yeah, the special is kind of cool visually but it seems like it takes forever to go away. If they cut out Lana patting the tree (???) then it would be way more bearable to me.

It doesn't seem to have a lot of range, either. I feel like I'm only hitting like 10 guys with it no matter how surrounded I am.

Just Andi Now
Nov 8, 2009


Evil Mastermind posted:

It doesn't seem to have a lot of range, either. I feel like I'm only hitting like 10 guys with it no matter how surrounded I am.

I mainly use it to deal damage to captains and bosses, since it's one gigantic hit. I'm not sure how it compares to other attacks, though, since Lana's been consistently my highest level character. I have managed to kill 35 at most with it.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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MarquiseMindfang posted:

Gohma's upgraded special summons 2 of them either side like the Dodongo, and they do a sweeping conal laser in front of each of them.

They also fire a pair of electric orbs that explode a fair distance away and do an enormous amount of damage to anything you hit with it.

The summoning gate overall is really gimmicky, but if you get it figured out it's REALLY strong. On the mission to unlock the tier 2 version, I ran in to the second commander expecting a long fight. Poked him a few times and then I got the powered up Argorok summon which took the commander from 80% to nothing in about three seconds.

Vanrushal
Apr 2, 2005

I thought my Spitter was a Jockey!
Well Agitha just surprised the hell out of me. The Imprisoned is usually an unfun slog no matter who I play as, but Agitha mauled the poo poo out of it. Gave her a weapon with Strong Attack+ and Strength V which powers up her beetle charge combo, giving her the ability to kill all the Imprisoned's toes as soon as he finishes regenerating them without using Special. She's not exactly super speedy at breaking the weak point, but using XXY, dodge, repeat kept it down to 2 cycles per weak break. So far I'd thought that she's pretty lackluster, but taking care of the shittiest boss in the game so handily makes her a-ok in my book.

Now someone tell me how to fight it as Zant because god drat. :suicide:

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
I think The Imprisoned's weak point gauge takes 2 rounds no matter how strong you are.

Against Giant Bosses, Agitha's YYYX > (air)X > YYY > X absolutely wrecks their faces because they can't avoid the iffy hitboxes on the aerial hits.

Wild Knight
Mar 27, 2010

Foul villain! I do not flee. I will never turn my back on you and run away!

[he says, running away]


Still works even in the patched NA version.

Can't get it to work with anything but the Master Sword and Gauntlets on Lana, Zelda, and Impa though. I wanted Lana's book on Zelda. :shrug: The novelty of watching Lana or Zelda make that stupid wide-open mouth when she flips the world is pretty great though!

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010

:psyduck: How are you doing that?

Can we get Darunia using the Deku Spear? oh right, you just said you were limited by weapon

Krysmphoenix fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Oct 2, 2014

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Krysmphoenix posted:

:psyduck: How are you doing that?

Can we get Darunia using the Deku Spear?

Sadly it apparently only works with (some) of the multi-weaponed characters.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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What does it do with the victory scene when you do that?

Wild Knight
Mar 27, 2010

Foul villain! I do not flee. I will never turn my back on you and run away!

[he says, running away]
Iiiiiiiit oh right I didn't post it in this thread. It's actually kinda complicated and requires a second controller.

- So P1 chooses the 'skin' character that they want to run around as and just clicks through their weapon list.
- P2 chooses the character and moveset P1 actually wants to use (again, only seems to work with the Master Sword, Gauntlets, and probably Lana's Summoning Gate but I haven't gotten it yet)
- Upon reaching P2's weapon selection list, hit B until it goes back to P1.
- P1 backs out with B one more screen.
- If you did it right the 'skin' character's weapon list won't have anything highlighted and you can faintly see the text of the moveset you selected below it. Hit A.
- flip the world with princess zelda

I've seen some people saying they got it to work with Zelda using Lana's book and there's a picture of the Japanese version of Ganondorf using Agitha's umbrella :haw: but I haven't had any luck with either of those, so either those have been patched or you need to do something different.

Shadowlyger posted:

What does it do with the victory scene when you do that?

Victory scenes don't happen in 2-player mode and it only works in 2-player mode, so yeah.

Theswarms
Dec 20, 2005
So the fight with monster Ganon.

Is something supposed to happen in this fight? I destroyed a tusk and a gauntlet using hookshot + bow then he just used fireball,horn machine gun and spin forever. I couldn't figure out how to hurt him and eventually lost because of lightning bolts striking the castle. What am I supposed to do against him? Did the game just bug out and make it so I could only do lovely amounts of chip damage to him? over 15 minutes I managed to remove about 1/4 of his health.

Edit: It helps if you read the text you arnt reading because you are dodging fireballs

Theswarms fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Oct 2, 2014

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010

Theswarms posted:

So the fight with monster Ganon.

Is something supposed to happen in this fight? I destroyed a tusk and a gauntlet using hookshot + bow then he just used fireball,horn machine gun and spin forever. I couldn't figure out how to hurt him and eventually lost because of lightning bolts striking the castle. What am I supposed to do against him? Did the game just bug out and make it so I could only do lovely amounts of chip damage to him? over 15 minutes I managed to remove about 1/4 of his health.

Edit: Oh you can boomerang and bomb those attacks despite them not using the giant blue glow literally every other attack in the game that works on uses.

Ganon's a item quiz boss. Bomb the fireball gauntlet, arrow the blue laser gauntlet, boomerang the weird shoulder-spike guns, and hookshot his tail after his firebreath. They cue back to the bosses those attacks are based on, although the graphics are different. (The fireball one messed me up the most because I thought it as throwing bombs into the Dodongo's mouth, not at the fireball it's charging up)

Theswarms
Dec 20, 2005
Yeh I missed the key "use all the items" text. I keep missing text boxes in this game because no-one is saying anything just making noises. Trained myself to listen to voices for objectives in all DW games.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Theswarms posted:

Yeh I missed the key "use all the items" text. I keep missing text boxes in this game because no-one is saying anything just making noises. Trained myself to listen to voices for objectives in all DW games.

Also it's a zelda game and he's clearly doing everything the bosses do before attacking.

Also someone needs to get a video of Zelda doing the Summon Gate, heard she actually sings the lullaby when she uses it for some reason.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



I hate any adventure mode mission that requires you to fight a giant boss.

No, go ahead Manhandla, keep using your stupid poison fart and tantrum attacks. I only have ten minutes to kill two of you, but why spend that doing anything productive when I can sit and watch the RNG make the fight unwinnable?

Theswarms
Dec 20, 2005

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Also it's a zelda game and he's clearly doing everything the bosses do before attacking.

Also someone needs to get a video of Zelda doing the Summon Gate, heard she actually sings the lullaby when she uses it for some reason.

I haven't played a Zelda game past the very beginning since Ocarina of Time. I might have forgotten the Zelda boss rules.

Yuki Akuma
Apr 9, 2007
I do enjoy the fact that each of the first four giant bosses in story mode require you to use the item you got in that level to defeat them, just like a real Zelda game.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Ometeotl posted:

I hate any adventure mode mission that requires you to fight a giant boss.

No, go ahead Manhandla, keep using your stupid poison fart and tantrum attacks. I only have ten minutes to kill two of you, but why spend that doing anything productive when I can sit and watch the RNG make the fight unwinnable?

That's easy though, at least you don't have to kill 700 enemies in 10 minutes WHILE 2 Manhandlas run around messing poo poo up.

Oh and you have to be Ghirahim to get the A rank reward

romanowski
Nov 10, 2012

Endorph posted:

I don't get why they didn't do what they did for Midna in Twilight Princess, where she had voice acting but it was just backwards Japanese to represent it being Hylian or whatever.

actually it was backwards english phrases chopped up and played randomly. please don't make this mistake again

Inverness
Feb 4, 2009

Fully configurable personal assistant.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

That's easy though, at least you don't have to kill 700 enemies in 10 minutes WHILE 2 Manhandlas run around messing poo poo up.

Oh and you have to be Ghirahim to get the A rank reward
gently caress that level. I got hit in the back by Manhandla and got knocked down to a puny number of hearts. I ran around frantically killing stuff until I finally hit the required kill count while I was down on hearts and both bosses were blocking the only bridge out of the area I was cornered in.

Whatever, at least I made it to the Ghirahim unlocking level before I had to go to bed.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I beat Legend mode! :woop: Those were some drat cool final levels.

Man there's still so much stuff to do. Guess I'll complete the first skulltula thing and then head back to adventure mode to try and shoot for the rest of the weapons and characters.

Inverness
Feb 4, 2009

Fully configurable personal assistant.

Regy Rusty posted:

I beat Legend mode! :woop: Those were some drat cool final levels.

Man there's still so much stuff to do. Guess I'll complete the first skulltula thing and then head back to adventure mode to try and shoot for the rest of the weapons and characters.
Now you know the glory of Ganondorf.

Ganondorf's final level where he had to disable both Link and Zelda at the same time or they would keep recovering was the only time I ever failed a level in Legend Mode.

I was playing on normal difficulty though since I've never played a Warriors game before.

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ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Inverness posted:

Now you know the glory of Ganondorf.

Ganondorf's final level where he had to disable both Link and Zelda at the same time or they would keep recovering was the only time I ever failed a level in Legend Mode.

I was playing on normal difficulty though since I've never played a Warriors game before.

Is that the gimmick? I beat the hell out of both of them and after 3 times each they finally stopped getting back up. I thought that was the gimmick but Zelda never got back up after the first time.

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