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Oct 2, 2014 19:08
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Meme Emulator posted:Is Dolph Lungdren an Adolf with a more media friendly SAG name? According to the man himself he took the name when he became an actor, from an American football star from the 20's that had that name. His original first name is "Hans". Yeah regarding the Kevin name, i can tell you that's also often considered a low class name in Sweden too. Along with some names ending in Y, like the aforementioned Ronny, Johnny, and Conny. So much so that it was the name of one of the main characters in a Swedish comedy series (Ronny & Ragge), where the main characters are Swedish greasers. Falukorv fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Oct 2, 2014 |
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Oct 2, 2014 19:11
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Flipper the Dolp' Edit: is Kevin seen in a bad light in the UK or the US?
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Oct 2, 2014 19:18
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Quantumfate posted:in the vein of maps that ought to have been: Nice Swahili language imperialism.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:21
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That map has come up before and it didn't make much sense last time either.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:25
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Kurtofan posted:Flipper the Dolp' In the US Kevin is a normal name. I knew several Kevin's growing up in the 90s. It's not so big now since everyone is naming their kid Brayleigh or whatever the gently caress.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:35
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Kurtofan posted:Flipper the Dolp' yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuEY6jN6gY
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Oct 2, 2014 19:43
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Hogge Wild posted:Do you know any Josephs? Wait, is it weird to be named Joseph? Where are you from? It's a super Christian name, the husband of Jesus' mother was called Joseph after all. It's surely more common in Bavaria here in Germany, but I actually know a non-Bavarian Joseph.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:52
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Phlegmish posted:That map has come up before and it didn't make much sense last time either. It's an alternate universe map from an Eastern African state. The premise is that in that universe, Africa was never colonized. The names are all in Swahili because the creator spoke that language.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:56
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Torrannor posted:Wait, is it weird to be named Joseph? Where are you from? It's a super Christian name, the husband of Jesus' mother was called Joseph after all. It's surely more common in Bavaria here in Germany, but I actually know a non-Bavarian Joseph. Joseph Stalin. 
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Oct 2, 2014 19:57
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Irradiation posted:Joseph Stalin. Joseph Goebbels. I still don't see the point. Is the name now tainted for all eternity?
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Oct 2, 2014 20:02
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Joseph is just pretty old fashioned.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:04
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Torrannor posted:Joseph Goebbels. I still don't see the point. Is the name now tainted for all eternity? The context of that quote was discussing a name that is seen as tainted, Adolph, despite probably being more common than Joseph at one time and why some people would be named Adolph in this day. The poster brought up the name Joseph as a way of calling attention to the fact just because an evil person was named a thing it doesn't necessarily ruin that name forever, everywhere.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:07
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:It's an alternate universe map from an Eastern African state. The premise is that in that universe, Africa was never colonized. The names are all in Swahili because the creator spoke that language. I don't think the map is very good because it just throws a bunch of things together without much regard for consistence. First of all, as the northern and eastern parts of Africa have clearly been colonized by Arabs (as in real life), they clearly mean that it specifically hasn't been colonized by Europeans. Swahili itself is heavily influenced by Arabic and is in fact derived from the Arabic word for 'coastal dweller'. Second, why on earth would they draw the Iberian peninsula as a part of Africa? I don't understand the logic here. Finally, it's unclear to me why they're using the Latin alphabet if this is a world where European colonization never occurred.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:19
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Torrannor posted:Can you tell us what's politically loaded or just interesting about the map? Are the regions where the Socialist Party won those high percentages the richest parts of Portugal? The poorest? I thought it was interesting how support for the new leader was pretty uniform. PS's former leader António José Seguro was basically our own little François Hollande, except that everyone realized he was a loser before he got into power. Oh, also, these were the first major primary elections over here ever, in what's sure to become a trend. Maybe we'll get some Rick Perry moments out of it in the future! Costa's not significantly better than Seguro, but hey. If we're going to be bent over and hosed in the rear end, might as well be by someone who's nice about it.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:53
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How did Kevin become such an unpopular name in Europe? In the US it's a completely average name, not super popular but not uncommon or weird either. edit: I can't think of any names in the US anyone actually dislikes that much
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Oct 2, 2014 21:02
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Mustang posted:How did Kevin become such an unpopular name in Europe? In the US it's a completely average name, not super popular but not uncommon or weird either. Jayden, Aiden, Brayden, and other such names are generally considered pretty low-class, I think.
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Oct 2, 2014 21:06
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Mustang posted:How did Kevin become such an unpopular name in Europe? In the US it's a completely average name, not super popular but not uncommon or weird either. Anything ending in -ayden, and possibly -eegan. It's a more modern distinction but it's definitely the same signifier.
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Oct 2, 2014 21:07
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Pakled posted:Jayden, Aiden, Brayden, and other such names are generally considered pretty low-class, I think. Uhhh those are the names the idle rich have been giving their kids lately.
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Oct 2, 2014 21:08
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Uhhh those are the names the idle rich have been giving their kids lately. and are vastly out numbered by poors imitating them that's how these trends start. Haven't you read how this conversation started?
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Oct 2, 2014 21:09
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Smirr posted:None. Joseph strikes me as a really, really Bavarian name, and I try my best to avoid Bavarians where possible. My brother's called Josef  (OK, I'm Bavarian, I admit it  )
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Oct 2, 2014 22:39
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Disco Infiva posted:
Of all the Islamic Emirates, Caliphates and whatnot, Sweden is a Baathist Republic. Whats the story behind that? too many Iraqis or what?
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Oct 2, 2014 23:51
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Fizzil posted:Of all the Islamic Emirates, Caliphates and whatnot, Sweden is a Baathist Republic. Whats the story behind that? too many Iraqis or what? something something socialism ?
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Oct 3, 2014 00:09
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Phlegmish posted:I don't think the map is very good because it just throws a bunch of things together without much regard for consistence. First of all, as the northern and eastern parts of Africa have clearly been colonized by Arabs (as in real life), they clearly mean that it specifically hasn't been colonized by Europeans. Swahili itself is heavily influenced by Arabic and is in fact derived from the Arabic word for 'coastal dweller'. Second, why on earth would they draw the Iberian peninsula as a part of Africa? I don't understand the logic here. Finally, it's unclear to me why they're using the Latin alphabet if this is a world where European colonization never occurred. Iberia was Muslim dominated back in the day.
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Oct 3, 2014 00:40
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Guavanaut posted:http://www.ugebreveta4.dk/navnehjulet (Type in a first name, receive stats)
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Oct 3, 2014 01:09
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Hogge Wild posted:There are both spellings. I'm pretty sure that most Adolfs are given that name after their grandfather. It used to be a really popular name before the war. I can attest to that, my grandfather was Adolf.
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Oct 3, 2014 01:20
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Phlegmish posted:I don't think the map is very good because it just throws a bunch of things together without much regard for consistence. First of all, as the northern and eastern parts of Africa have clearly been colonized by Arabs (as in real life), they clearly mean that it specifically hasn't been colonized by Europeans. Swahili itself is heavily influenced by Arabic and is in fact derived from the Arabic word for 'coastal dweller'. Second, why on earth would they draw the Iberian peninsula as a part of Africa? I don't understand the logic here. Finally, it's unclear to me why they're using the Latin alphabet if this is a world where European colonization never occurred. The Iberian peninsula was conquered by the Berbers who are African? I think it's just supposed to be a world where Europe never really got its act together and how Africa turned out. Maybe it's to imply that Iberia is a North African colony? It's not like there's a thesis attached to it. I don't think it's anything to read into too much. It's like getting mad about Harry Turtledove novels or any other alternate history novel because they're built on a foundation of fallacies and supported by poo poo writing.
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Oct 3, 2014 01:31
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Hmm, the average year of birth of Danes named Adolf is 1943... ...stockholm syndrome?
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Oct 3, 2014 04:42
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Frostwerks posted:...stockholm syndrome? The nazis weren't that unpopular in many European countries. We just really, really like to talk about the resistance movements. No collaboration here - move along.
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Oct 3, 2014 05:15
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Smirr posted:I'm German. It's not just another name to me. If I met a guy my age (late 20s) named Adolf I would go slackjawed and immediately think less of his parents because they either a) are Nazis or b) went "what's the big deal, the boy's grandfather was named Adolf, it's just another name". Find another name then, this one's been retired to the rafters. I used to know a lot of guys named Osama. Suddenly about 13 years ago I started knowing a lot of guys named Sam.
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Oct 3, 2014 05:17
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Grand Fromage posted:I used to know a lot of guys named Osama. Jay is short for Jihad.
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Oct 3, 2014 05:23
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HER NAME WAS LEMONJELLO I TELLS YA
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Oct 3, 2014 06:00
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Anosmoman posted:The nazis weren't that unpopular in many European countries. We just really, really like to talk about the resistance movements. No collaboration here - move along. Guess what the Conservatives were doing before Hitler invaded.    I doubt today's Conservative Youth, the youth party of the Conservatives, like to talk about that part of their history.
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Oct 3, 2014 08:52
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I wouldn't be surprised if it was sorta similar in other (Western) European countries, but the Danish resistance started out mostly just being Communists and then eventually with Allied backing and Germany beginning to run into trouble various right wing resistance groups were founded. Immediately after the war it was basically decided officially that we would pretend like everyone had been resisting the Nazis from day one, so we could leave all that behind us as quickly as possible. What bugs me is that there's still this collective denial - sort of a mythology we like to tell each other - still, after 70 years. Like Frihedsmusset (Resistance museum) have registered 85.000 resistance fighters. However that includes people who signed up the last days of the war, people who were sent to concentration camps or otherwise imprisoned and those who provided passive support in some capacity. The number of people who actually planted bombs and shot people etc were about 2000. By contrast there was 12.000 volunteers for the German Waffen SS - people who volunteered to leave their country to fight in the Russian vastelands.
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Oct 3, 2014 10:10
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I doubt today's Conservative Youth, the youth party of the Conservatives, like to talk about that part of their history. Because of just that, they banned party Uniforms, a ban that's still active today, no Stormtroopers for the Conservative Youth anymore.
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Oct 3, 2014 10:37
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Guess what the Conservatives were doing before Hitler invaded. A good troll response to anybody posting Pledge of Allegiance stuff on their facebook wall.  The Bellamy salute was suddenly dropped for some reason in 1942.
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Oct 3, 2014 11:00
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The pledge of allegiance is the weirdest thing. I remember we knew a family who moved to the United States and their son got expelled from his school for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance despite the very reasonable objection that he wasn't an American.
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Oct 3, 2014 11:40
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The Pledge was invented by a socialist, iirc. America truly is a land of contrasts.
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Oct 3, 2014 12:12
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The pledge of allegiance is the weirdest thing. I remember we knew a family who moved to the United States and their son got expelled from his school for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance despite the very reasonable objection that he wasn't an American. What? When? Where?
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Oct 3, 2014 12:52
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The pledge of allegiance is the weirdest thing. I remember we knew a family who moved to the United States and their son got expelled from his school for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance despite the very reasonable objection that he wasn't an American. Gee, that must have been an awfully long time ago.
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