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Modern banning is so weird though. They banned Zenith because of its interaction with an otherwise or mostly unplayed card, and then just left it there? Why not ban Arbor instead? I also still don't understand why they bothered to unban bitterblossom. Samael posted:Well, we all know that MTGS is toxic, in fact, is there an internet forum related to magic that isn't completely retarded? I mean apart from here which has it's moments but is relatively decent.
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Spiderdrake posted:Goodgamery is really good if you avoid certain parts of it, but it is descended from misetings and has a really old guard crowd so it might be kinda bleh for people from here. I'll check that out, thanks! So is Jeskai Ascendancy good in standard also? I mean there isn't as many 1 drop spells that cantrip in the deck as in modern, so I'm a little pessimistic on whether it would work.
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Oct 3, 2014 08:14
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they better not ban glittering wish, the 5c Glittering Paruns deck is hilarious (and bad)
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holliday needs to learn to press F2
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Oct 3, 2014 08:22
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a dozen swans posted:they better not ban glittering wish, the 5c Glittering Paruns deck is hilarious (and bad) Why would they ban wish instead of ascendency? I mean, is that actually a likely outcome?
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Oct 3, 2014 08:23
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Rinkles posted:Why would they ban wish instead of ascendency? I mean, is that actually a likely outcome? It would be a stupid, useless idea that would not even solve the problem of the turn two combo kill, so 50/50.
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Oct 3, 2014 08:25
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Hellsau posted:It would be a stupid, useless idea that would not even solve the problem of the turn two combo kill, so 50/50. Pretty much this. Wizards has a history of a "throw out the baby, keep the bathwater" approach to banning.
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First Bass posted:Pretty much this. Wizards has a history of a "throw out the baby, keep the bathwater" approach to banning. except for necropotence 
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Oct 3, 2014 08:35
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A big flaming stink posted:except for necropotence Necropotence was the example I had in mind; don't read too deeply into the metaphor
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Oct 3, 2014 08:48
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Samael posted:So is Jeskai Ascendancy good in standard also? I mean there isn't as many 1 drop spells that cantrip in the deck as in modern, so I'm a little pessimistic on whether it would work. Plus I don't like a win condition of going off and pumping a bunch of dudes that can get chumped. Presumably you could cram in Nylea or Archetype of Anger, or maybe some Messenger Speed. Are there any better overrun type things that might actually fit in that deck?
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mango sentinel posted:In a world where Anger of the Gods is common and the quality of durdles is so low, I doubt it.
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Oct 3, 2014 08:57
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mango sentinel posted:In a world where Anger of the Gods is common and the quality of durdles is so low, I doubt it. if you go off, you'll bounce every nonland permanent they control, so chumpers don't matter. controlling decks are also less of an issue, since they can't put a clock on you quickly. the deck's worst nightmare is aggro, and aggro seems to be dying a screaming death right now.
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Oct 3, 2014 08:58
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Spiderdrake posted:Modern banning is so weird though. They banned Zenith because of its interaction with an otherwise or mostly unplayed card, and then just left it there? Why not ban Arbor instead? They banned zenith because it had the most potential to be abused and limited what they could print in modern legal sets. Bitterblossom should of never been banned in the first place.
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Spiderdrake posted:Modern banning is so weird though. They banned Zenith because of its interaction with an otherwise or mostly unplayed card, and then just left it there? Why not ban Arbor instead? Why should Bitterblossom be banned?
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Zenith wasn't banned only because of Dryad Arbor, but also because if your deck had green in it, you had no reason not to run GSZ.
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Oct 3, 2014 10:34
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Samael posted:Well, we all know that MTGS is toxic, in fact, is there an internet forum related to magic that isn't completely retarded? I mean apart from here which has it's moments but is relatively decent. I haven't been on it in a while, but goodgamery.com was pretty good.
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Bugsy posted:Nathan Holliday is playing modern Jeskai Ascendency on stream right now if people want to see how crazy the deck is. I played a version of this on Monday and oh boy it is bonkers. You can play a lot of redundant cards and the looting ability on Ascendancy lets you pitch them when you're done with mana guys/lands.
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Jorath posted:I'm posting this here as my posting was deleted from MTGS. See if you can guess why. Hidden information includes the deck which the other poster said. I'm gonna guess an argument erupted because you used girl names and this is part of the feminazi conspiracy to not use he and boy names as a default.
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Oct 3, 2014 12:48
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I'm gonna be really disappointed if WUR-Tang clan doesn't become a name.
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I hate hate HATE that we're getting Limited coverage from SCG this weekend. I want more Standard... 
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Pinwiz11 posted:I hate hate HATE that we're getting Limited coverage from SCG this weekend. I want more Standard... why is it limited?
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Sickening posted:why is it limited? GP Orlando, no open series.
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YourHumbleMessiah posted:Drafted tonight, guy next to me pulls a Sarkhan and a Foil Bloodstained Mire. It was a good night. Except for the part where I got blown out. Just curious, did he just get up and withdraw at that point? I'd have just thanked the store and kindly withdrawn with my packs at that point. Can't really do much better than that.
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I can't decide which color to accompany black in my lovely Agent of Fates deck. White has the cantrip +1/+0 for W, plus a few other heroic guys. Red has Dragon Grip and Crowd's Favor, but both of those would just make the opponent sac whatever Agent was about to kill. Rabblemaster + Agent plus some first strike stuff seems most balanced but what goes best to stay competitive on turns 1-2? Monastery Swiftspear + thoughtseize?OssiansFolly posted:Just curious, did he just get up and withdraw at that point? I'd have just thanked the store and kindly withdrawn with my packs at that point. Can't really do much better than that. Yeah, actually playing Magic is pretty tedious. Gimme those shineys.
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Recess Rapist posted:I can't decide which color to accompany black in my lovely Agent of Fates deck. White has the cantrip +1/+0 for W, plus a few other heroic guys. Red has Dragon Grip and Crowd's Favor, but both of those would just make the opponent sac whatever Agent was about to kill. Rabblemaster + Agent plus some first strike stuff seems most balanced but what goes best to stay competitive on turns 1-2? Monastery Swiftspear + thoughtseize? Its not that its tedious, but if you are just at a local store you will likely get more value out of taking the lucky draw and playing again another night. If it was a major event with a decent prize pool then playing it out may be worth it. With those 2 cards you can practically buy a box and throw your own draft...
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If it from the same pack you just go buy a new one and pocket the one you opened
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I've been playing with and against the Jeskai Ascendancy deck and I don't think it's broken. I think it's an insanely reliable combo engine and easily a tier 1 deck but I'm getting a lot of wins because people don't know exactly the right way to go about disrupting the combo and also haven't allocated the proper sideboard slots to the deck since it's so new. It gets hurt bad by sideboard cards that are relevant against plenty of other archetypes but kind of steamrolls anyone without efficient targeted enchantment hate. I like anytime the metagame gets shaken up significantly so I hope they don't ban it out.
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Holiday said the Jeskai deck feels really close to Eggs, which seemed true. It was fun to watch go off for a few games but it looks miserable to play and to play against, so hope it is banned.
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How can I do an either-or text search on magiccards.info? I'm trying to search for all the cards in my color identity that Mwonvuli Beast-Tracker can find.
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Terrible Horse posted:Holiday said the Jeskai deck feels really close to Eggs, which seemed true. It was fun to watch go off for a few games but it looks miserable to play and to play against, so hope it is banned. Oh it's much easier to play than eggs. It's almost like playing combo elves except the combo is just one elf.
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Recess Rapist posted:I can't decide which color to accompany black in my lovely Agent of Fates deck. White has the cantrip +1/+0 for W, plus a few other heroic guys. Red has Dragon Grip and Crowd's Favor, but both of those would just make the opponent sac whatever Agent was about to kill. Rabblemaster + Agent plus some first strike stuff seems most balanced but what goes best to stay competitive on turns 1-2? Monastery Swiftspear + thoughtseize? White also has Gods Willing and Feat of Resistance. That will let you counter any removal spell aimed at your agent and make them sacrifice a creature in turn. Fabled Hero is a good standalone Heroic target, since with any spell at all he gets huge, and Eidolon of Countless Battles makes your dudes gigantic. Seeker of the Way also combines very well with a heroic deck, and Soldier of the Pantheon is randomly excellent against some decks.
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What would the standard version of the ascendency deck use for cantriping? Or would it mostly rely on the looting ability plus treasure cruise to not run out of fuel?
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Rinkles posted:What would the standard version of the ascendency deck use for cantriping? Or would it mostly rely on the looting ability plus treasure cruise to not run out of fuel? The versions I've seen run 0-mana artifacts like Astral Cornucopia and Briber's Purse, along with a creature hit by Refraction Helix, to create an infinite/infinite attack. Same problem; without Ascendancy in play, you're just running a bunch of crappy creatures and do-nothing spells.
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Rinkles posted:What would the standard version of the ascendency deck use for cantriping? Or would it mostly rely on the looting ability plus treasure cruise to not run out of fuel? Probably some combination of Dragon Mantle, Defiant Strike, Stratus Walk, Nylea's Presence, Fate Foretold, Karametra's Favor, Chosen by Heliod. You probably don't really need more than the first four though, that plus the looting plus some actual card draw should be sufficient.
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LordSaturn posted:How can I do an either-or text search on magiccards.info? I'm trying to search for all the cards in my color identity that Mwonvuli Beast-Tracker can find. http://magiccards.info/query?q=c!g+%28o%3Adeathtouch+or+o%3Ahexproof+or+o%3Areach+or+o%3Atrample%29&v=card&s=cname
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LordSaturn posted:How can I do an either-or text search on magiccards.info? I'm trying to search for all the cards in my color identity that Mwonvuli Beast-Tracker can find. Use parentheses and "or" (deathtouch) or (reach) or (trample) or (hexproof)
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Rinkles posted:What would the standard version of the ascendency deck use for cantriping? Or would it mostly rely on the looting ability plus treasure cruise to not run out of fuel? No idea how it plays, but this showed up a few days ago. http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/valuable-lessons-valuable-lessons-standard-has-a-real-combo-deck/ Mana dorks + untap triggers make it work, you just continually draw multiple cards per turn, sometimes you don't even need to loot.
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Cactrot posted:No idea how it plays, but this showed up a few days ago.
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mango sentinel posted:Dunno how well this works. probably really poorly
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It probably works very well (for the deck, not sure how well the entire thing works), since otherwise your gigantor creature is likely to get chumped. retraction helix + multiple untaps isn't the worst sweeper ever, I guess. Cactrot fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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