Crusader Kings II: I desperately want to be cucked by Satan

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A_Spec: Nov 2, 2012

Sam. posted:

The interface for that is pretty unintuitive, and I think the mod may be too big.

The mod is too big for the workshop, we're working on a workaround to harbour larger mods in there at the moment.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 09:52

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 02:14

he1ixx: Aug 23, 2007; still bad at video games

Here's a dumb question for you guys. I just bought CK2 and EUIV on Steam sale and I'd love to check out the forums for CK2. Unfortunately the forums are tied to a key and I got no key. I went to get support and they require a key too so I'm kind of stuck at finding how how to get into the forums at this point. Any advice?

This game is so daunting. I spent an hour staring at the screen incredibly confused, click on people and do things but I'm never quite sure if anything is happening. This should be fun.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 13:15

Serperoth: Feb 21, 2013

he1ixx posted:

Here's a dumb question for you guys. I just bought CK2 and EUIV on Steam sale and I'd love to check out the forums for CK2. Unfortunately the forums are tied to a key and I got no key. I went to get support and they require a key too so I'm kind of stuck at finding how how to get into the forums at this point. Any advice?

This game is so daunting. I spent an hour staring at the screen incredibly confused, click on people and do things but I'm never quite sure if anything is happening. This should be fun.

There should be a key included with your purchases, if you check them out in your Steam library there should be a "Show CD Key" button to the right I believe.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 13:19

he1ixx: Aug 23, 2007; still bad at video games

Serperoth posted:

There should be a key included with your purchases, if you check them out in your Steam library there should be a "Show CD Key" button to the right I believe.

I know the spot you're talking about. There was a spot for CD key when I select EUIV but not CK2 for some reason.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 13:22

Generation Internet: Jan 18, 2009; Where angels and generals fear to tread.

he1ixx posted:

I know the spot you're talking about. There was a spot for CD key when I select EUIV but not CK2 for some reason.

I'm in the same boat as you, and I've had CKII for years. I seem to remember a cd-key popping up in the corner for a while but now for the life of me I can't find it.

That combined with the fact that apparently I hace two or three usernames tied to my e-mail because I keep trying to register and then give up every so often has really turned me off of ever actually using those forums.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 13:28

shut up blegum: Dec 17, 2008; --->Plastic Lawn<---

he1ixx posted:

This game is so daunting. I spent an hour staring at the screen incredibly confused, click on people and do things but I'm never quite sure if anything is happening. This should be fun.

It is fun. Check out this mega-thread with different tutorials. That should help you when starting out. There was also a video tutorial series linked by some guy, but I can't quite remember what that link was. Someone will surely know what I'm talking about and post it here. I hope.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 14:45

Selenephos: Jul 9, 2010

he1ixx posted:

Here's a dumb question for you guys. I just bought CK2 and EUIV on Steam sale and I'd love to check out the forums for CK2. Unfortunately the forums are tied to a key and I got no key. I went to get support and they require a key too so I'm kind of stuck at finding how how to get into the forums at this point. Any advice?

This game is so daunting. I spent an hour staring at the screen incredibly confused, click on people and do things but I'm never quite sure if anything is happening. This should be fun.

Generation Internet posted:

I'm in the same boat as you, and I've had CKII for years. I seem to remember a cd-key popping up in the corner for a while but now for the life of me I can't find it.

That combined with the fact that apparently I hace two or three usernames tied to my e-mail because I keep trying to register and then give up every so often has really turned me off of ever actually using those forums.

It's because I believe Crusader Kings II is having a free weekend, so the CD Key isn't viewable on Steam until it's over. Even if you actually own the game and aren't just trying it out. It's dumb, I know but there you go. It should be viewable again in a few hours.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 15:42

Eric the Mauve: May 8, 2012; Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Strudel Man posted:

Man. I started up another game today after a long time without playing, and there's still the bug where bastard children pop out half the time with no father whatsoever. Bugs the heck out of me, since it makes lovers mostly pointless, and of course it always seems like it's the strong ones that everybody apparently decides to be a virgin birth.

It's not a bug. Sometimes a bastard's father is known and sometimes it isn't. It IS somewhat annoying that if the father is unknown at birth then you're not allowed to acknowledge or legitimize him as yours.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 15:57

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

I don't have the game open right now, but somewhere in the shift-tab interface, there's a way to re-enable that pop-up that shows the CD key. It was really easy to find iirc. That was just a few weeks ago, so it should be there for you.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 16:25

he1ixx: Aug 23, 2007; still bad at video games

Thanks guys I'll take a look. It also sounds like it'll be resolved in a few hours one way or the other regardless. This game is pretty cool so far. I've fallen down a rabbit hole and broken both ankles though since it looks really all-consuming. It's also good that I'm starting this in the Fall since it really make my laptop fans run and it'll help heat my house this winter.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 16:28

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

Man, After the End is so awesome and impressive. Also it's really cool you have Louisiana's name change to Louisiane when ruled by Cajuns and Lwizyan when ruled by Creoles.

Is that Comancheria up on the github version?

# ? Oct 6, 2014 16:36

Funky Valentine: Feb 26, 2014; Dojyaa~an

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Is that Comancheria up on the github version?

yesyesyesyes empire of the summer moon here i come

# ? Oct 6, 2014 16:44

Ofaloaf: Feb 15, 2013

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Man, After the End is so awesome and impressive. Also it's really cool you have Louisiana's name change to Louisiane when ruled by Cajuns and Lwizyan when ruled by Creoles.

Is that Comancheria up on the github version?

Yep! It's Catholic for the time being, though, and I kinda want to at least keep it the ruling religion of the land (Catholicism's by-and-large limited to the Great Plains and they really need some powers to prevent everything from being steamrolled) so maybe peyote funtimes can be added in later as a culture-related thing rather than strictly a Native American Church deal.

Funky Valentine posted:

yesyesyesyes empire of the summer moon here i come

They're a bit fragile on, mind you. Comancheria's a de jure title (had to do something with West Texas) but Comanche's only the provincial culture in two Oklahoma counties. The rest of it's all Texan or Tejano, and some of the major vassals under the Comanche king are likewise Texan and Tejano, so it's all a bit of a delicate situation.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 17:15

Clanpot Shake: Aug 10, 2006; shake shake!

I pulled my sprawling mega-empire into EUIV and it began to immediately collapse under its own weight, with revolts popping up every 2 weeks. It might be salvageable, but this is the first I've played EUIV and I have no idea what I'm doing. Does EUIV have a tutorial island equivalent I could fool around with?

# ? Oct 6, 2014 17:34

Antwan3K: Mar 8, 2013

Clanpot Shake posted:

I pulled my sprawling mega-empire into EUIV and it began to immediately collapse under its own weight, with revolts popping up every 2 weeks. It might be salvageable, but this is the first I've played EUIV and I have no idea what I'm doing. Does EUIV have a tutorial island equivalent I could fool around with?

France is basically god mode in EUIV

# ? Oct 6, 2014 17:53

binge crotching: Apr 2, 2010

Antwan3K posted:

France is basically god mode in EUIV

Especially because there is a good chance you'll end up with half of Burgundy for free via event.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 17:55

QuoProQuid: Jan 12, 2012; Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Ofaloaf posted:

Yep! It's Catholic for the time being, though, and I kinda want to at least keep it the ruling religion of the land (Catholicism's by-and-large limited to the Great Plains and they really need some powers to prevent everything from being steamrolled) so maybe peyote funtimes can be added in later as a culture-related thing rather than strictly a Native American Church deal.

Yeah, keeping the Great Plains Catholic is a good idea. As it stands, the Pope almost always declares a suicidal Crusade against Louisiana or the Revelationists, gets smashed, and then spends the next few decades getting eaten by the surrounding powers. The Americanists have a similar issue, where every game starts with the President declaring war against New York, before getting annihilated by the Merchant Republic there. Unless there's a way to reconfigure how the AI decides to crusade, this last issue might not be solvable.

I've also noticed that most of the Vanilla flavor text about Rome is still in the game. It might be a good idea to change all references of Rome to America.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 18:01

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Eric the Mauve posted:

It's not a bug. Sometimes a bastard's father is known and sometimes it isn't. It IS somewhat annoying that if the father is unknown at birth then you're not allowed to acknowledge or legitimize him as yours.

It has to be a bug, because the woman in question should have a pretty good idea whose kid it is.

My best guess is that it's just doing a cuckoo impregnation, except there's no husband so 'nobody' is assumed to be the father.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 18:36

Allyn: Sep 4, 2007; I love Charlie from Busted!

If the actual father gets the event to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce a child as his, then renouncing gives the kid no official father. That's intentional, as far as I know

# ? Oct 6, 2014 18:54

QuoProQuid: Jan 12, 2012; Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Strudel Man posted:

It has to be a bug, because the woman in question should have a pretty good idea whose kid it is.

My best guess is that it's just doing a cuckoo impregnation, except there's no husband so 'nobody' is assumed to be the father.

No, it is not a bug. What you are referring to is an explicit mechanic.

The idea is that fostering a child out of wedlock is such a serious indiscretion that you are trying to keep the matter quiet. If the bastard child's parent is announced, then either your attempts to silence the matter failed or the mother revealed your complicity in the affair. If the bastard child's parent is not displayed, then that means the affair was kept quiet.

It is also possible for two lovers to conceive a child and have the female lover's husband accept the child as his own. In this case, the husband will appear as the "father" but share the real parent's DNA.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 18:58

ninjahedgehog: Feb 17, 2011; It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.

Are we getting a new thread for Charlemagne? This one's getting pretty long and the OP still thinks the Old Gods is the latest DLC.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:03

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Ofaloaf posted:

Yep! It's Catholic for the time being, though, and I kinda want to at least keep it the ruling religion of the land (Catholicism's by-and-large limited to the Great Plains and they really need some powers to prevent everything from being steamrolled) so maybe peyote funtimes can be added in later as a culture-related thing rather than strictly a Native American Church deal.

They're a bit fragile on, mind you. Comancheria's a de jure title (had to do something with West Texas) but Comanche's only the provincial culture in two Oklahoma counties. The rest of it's all Texan or Tejano, and some of the major vassals under the Comanche king are likewise Texan and Tejano, so it's all a bit of a delicate situation.

Look, I think we all need to know: will Chicago be Muslim?

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:12

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Jedit posted:

Look, I think we all need to know: will Chicago be Muslim?

Unless I'm getting whooshed here, it is already in the game as Rustbeltist or whatever it is, I believe.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:17

GSD: May 10, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Chicago is, I believe, Catholic, but it is right next to a bunch of Rust Cultist states (not to mention the vikings across the lake) so it often does not last long.

It is, alas, not a republic like Detroit is.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:19

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

QuoProQuid posted:

No, it is not a bug. What you are referring to is an explicit mechanic.

The idea is that fostering a child out of wedlock is such a serious indiscretion that you are trying to keep the matter quiet. If the bastard child's parent is announced, then either your attempts to silence the matter failed or the mother revealed your complicity in the affair. If the bastard child's parent is not displayed, then that means the affair was kept quiet.

It is also possible for two lovers to conceive a child and have the female lover's husband accept the child as his own. In this case, the husband will appear as the "father" but share the real parent's DNA.

Allyn posted:

If the actual father gets the event to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce a child as his, then renouncing gives the kid no official father. That's intentional, as far as I know

I'm talking about cases where the player-controlled character is the father, and the woman giving birth to the child has no husband, but the event to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce the child does not occur. That is the bug.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:24

binge crotching: Apr 2, 2010

Strudel Man posted:

It has to be a bug, because the woman in question should have a pretty good idea whose kid it is.

My best guess is that it's just doing a cuckoo impregnation, except there's no husband so 'nobody' is assumed to be the father.

That does seem correct. If you turn on char info, you'll see the difference when you hover over the pregnant woman. For some events that cause a pregnancy, it'll show up as " father X (bastard)". These ones popup the option to choose what to so. For other event based pregnancies, it doesn't list a father on char info display, so no option is given. Those ones will list (real father X), but don't seem to properly spawn the bastard event.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:24

QuoProQuid: Jan 12, 2012; Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Bort Bortles posted:

Unless I'm getting whooshed here, it is already in the game as Rustbeltist or whatever it is, I believe.

The joke is about Obama.

Strudel Man posted:

I'm talking about cases where the player-controlled character is the father, and the woman giving birth to the child has no husband, but the event to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce the child does not occur. That is the bug.

From what I understand, the event only pops up if your adultery is revealed. The decision to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce the child is damage control.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:28

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

QuoProQuid posted:

The event only pops up if your adultery is revealed. The decision to legitimize/acknowledge/renounce the child is damage control.

I certainly hope you're wrong about that being the intention, because the damage control is actively desirable, giving you the chance to gain a new member of your dynasty and potential heir at your own discretion. That damage control also occurred 100% of the time before the cuckoo mechanic was introduced, a mechanic which theoretically should not impact the perception of "unmarried mother" cases at all.

It makes essentially zero sense, as well, that your perception of your lover giving birth to a kid would be "A son was born to Lady MacBeth and an unknown father." A properly-functioning cuckoo birth lets the father know that the kid is actually his - it's not credible that a properly-functioning bastard birth would not.

edit: Further, the event text for the father's choice, when it occurs, is simply "It seems my amorous adventures have resulted in a child - little [From.GetFirstName] is my spitting image." Nothing about the affair being broadly revealed; it's just a birth announcement.

Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 6, 2014

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:33

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

QuoProQuid posted:

The joke is about Obama.

gently caress American politics.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 19:43

Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

Are Canadians too polite to holy war? My current king of Ontario is both zealous and ambitious but there are no holy war available even against the rust cultists.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 20:02

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

GSD posted:

Chicago is, I believe, Catholic, but it is right next to a bunch of Rust Cultist states (not to mention the vikings across the lake) so it often does not last long.

It is, alas, not a republic like Detroit is.

I cannot wait for expanded event chains for the Rust Cult, they're a really cool idea.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 20:20

Top Hats Monthly: Jun 22, 2011; People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT

I like how the first member of the Papacy in the mod is Petrus Romanus, nice touch

How many legendary characters are there?

# ? Oct 6, 2014 20:30

Eric the Mauve: May 8, 2012; Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Mr. Fortitude posted:

It's because I believe Crusader Kings II is having a free weekend, so the CD Key isn't viewable on Steam until it's over. Even if you actually own the game and aren't just trying it out. It's dumb, I know but there you go. It should be viewable again in a few hours.

Free weekend and the sale are over and I still can't get the CD key (which I also know for a fact I had access to as recently as last week) anywhere. Anybody else?

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:03

Awesome!: Oct 17, 2008; Ready for adventure!

Eric the Mauve posted:

Free weekend and the sale are over and I still can't get the CD key (which I also know for a fact I had access to as recently as last week) anywhere. Anybody else?

same. i have no idea what possessed me to register on the paradox forums this weekend but apparently it was bad timing.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:04

GenderSelectScreen: Mar 7, 2010; I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME; College Slice

I still think that registering bullshit needs to go away. It especially sucks when their forum wont register the CD-Key and you have to try repeatedly for a week until it finally goes through. Just let me look at the forums for gently caress's sake.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:16

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Turns out it wasn't actually too hard to rig up an event to fix the bugged bastard thing.

code:

character_event = {
	id = 317
	desc = EVTDESC300
	picture = GFX_evt_birth
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	trigger = {
		was_conceived_a_bastard = yes
		real_father = { always = yes } 
		NOT = { father = { always = yes } }		#Has a 'real father' set, with no father - improper cuckoo birth.
	}

	option = {
		name = OK
		
		real_father = {
			ROOT = {
				set_father = PREV
			}
		}
		set_real_father = 0
		character_event = { id = 300 }
	}
}

Stuck it in the on_action.txt for childbirth. It checks to see if any bastards are born fatherless, but with a real father set. If they are, it makes their real father their father, and then fires the normal bastard event. Seems to work fine.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:25

Selenephos: Jul 9, 2010

Eric the Mauve posted:

Free weekend and the sale are over and I still can't get the CD key (which I also know for a fact I had access to as recently as last week) anywhere. Anybody else?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/203770/discussions/0/613937942980498750/

Paradox is being really lazy and haven't enabled Steam to display the CD Key again yet.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:29

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

I still think that registering bullshit needs to go away. It especially sucks when their forum wont register the CD-Key and you have to try repeatedly for a week until it finally goes through. Just let me look at the forums for gently caress's sake.

I guess the whole registering thing is so their forums dont get shat up by trolls that down own the game/so spammers cant just log in and spam ads/ect. It would be nice if we could all SEE the forums but you need to register to post? I really hate needing to register because of the aforementioned issues, and I wont go on the forums often. Usually I see a link to a cool mod or something then go "whelp, not registered, gently caress it".

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:32

TheMcD: May 4, 2013; Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Bort Bortles posted:

I guess the whole registering thing is so their forums dont get shat up by trolls that down own the game/so spammers cant just log in and spam ads/ect. It would be nice if we could all SEE the forums but you need to register to post? I really hate needing to register because of the aforementioned issues, and I wont go on the forums often. Usually I see a link to a cool mod or something then go "whelp, not registered, gently caress it".

I'm pretty sure that the CD key thing is their version of anti-piracy. If you want mods, support, or basically anything that isn't the game itself, you use the CD key.

# ? Oct 6, 2014 21:37

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 02:14

cool new Metroid game: Oct 7, 2009; hail satan

TheMcD posted:

I'm pretty sure that the CD key thing is their version of anti-piracy. If you want mods, support, or basically anything that isn't the game itself, you use the CD key.

yes

# ? Oct 6, 2014 22:10

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