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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Isn't the general D&D consensus that the main young guys with political ambitions (Castro, Booker) are still too young? I think in terms of Booker, it's that he's been found out as a really lovely Dem. I don't know if there's dirt on Castro, yet.
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Brannock posted:Biden looks like a lich. The democrats are too afraid to nominate someone born after Jimmy Carter's presidency.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:54
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Isn't the general D&D consensus that the main young guys with political ambitions (Castro, Booker) are still too young? Castro will be 42 if Hillary taps him for VP and 50 if they serve two terms together. He'd be older than Obama was in 2008 if that happened.
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SedanChair posted:Today Joe Biden visited Renton Technical College. it's not as though seattle traffic isn't a giant cluster gently caress on the best of days though.
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Trabisnikof posted:The democrats are too afraid to nominate someone born after Jimmy Carter's presidency. That person would still be considered very young for president.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:57
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Berke Negri posted:That person would still be considered very young for president. unconstitutionally young... 35 years have not elapsed since 1981
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Oct 10, 2014 04:07
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Joementum posted:I don't think we should continue on this topic without making sure that everyone sees the incredibly stupid thing Eric Schmidt said during that panel event with Rand. Here it is: “Gamify the lessons. … As jobs get automated away, the only thing we can do is have smarter people.” And I was just reading today about how there is a huge glut of post docs in math and hard sciences who are graduating and can't find jobs.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:16
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Jagchosis posted:unconstitutionally young... 35 years have not elapsed since 1981 Like he said, afraid.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:17
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Grapeshot posted:Call me Aaron Burr from the way I'm dropping Hamiltons Late but this is fantastic
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Oct 10, 2014 04:21
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Fried Chicken posted:And I was just reading today about how there is a huge glut of post docs in math and hard sciences who are graduating and can't find jobs.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:26
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uncurable mlady posted:Late but this is fantastic Its also a lyric from a Lonely Island song circa 2008.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:28
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Chantilly Say posted:That Salt+Straw ice cream might be hipster ice cream but it's really, really good. Lumberjack Stack is fantastic.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:35
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Nessus posted:B-but I thought STEM jobs were a guaranteed thing! It is if you come from the right family, have the appropriate connections, and attend the correct university with sufficient alumni network and networking events. Or, "it is when every other type of job is already a guaranteed thing"!
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Oct 10, 2014 04:38
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Caros posted:Its also a lyric from a Lonely Island song circa 2008. Well gently caress, I thought dude was just really clever! Also technology is terrible. I say this as a tech person. Tech culture is hilariously bad and I think it's funny that people think the problem is that the stakeholders aren't going and getting their voices heard by Google, et. al. Google, et. al. don't seek their input or when they do, it's only the voices that are predisposed to their point. If you want a great example of how top-down Ed tech fucks up go read up on inBloom, another Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation initiative.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:41
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My Imaginary GF posted:It is if you come from the right family, have the appropriate connections, and attend the correct university with sufficient alumni network and networking events. A guaranteed job in finance. Not in what their phd was in.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:41
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computer parts posted:It's also important to note that labor participation peaked around 2000 so it's not like declining labor participation is solely due to the recession. Why has it been declining all this time exactly? Fried Chicken posted:And I was just reading today about how there is a huge glut of post docs in math and hard sciences who are graduating and can't find jobs. Sounds like they're just being lazy.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:42
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hobbesmaster posted:A guaranteed job in finance. Not in what their phd was in. After some of the poo poo I've read over the past year, all I could do was say "ouch" when I read your post. Get rich and gently caress up the rest of the world, oh yes!
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Oct 10, 2014 04:43
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I'm applying to an MBA program this week and my inner leftist is feeling a little defeated.
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Grapeshot posted:Call me Aaron Burr from the way I'm dropping Hamiltons Yup. Sorry, Shageletic, couldn't let this one go to waste.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:00
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Mr Interweb posted:Why has it been declining all this time exactly? Tl;dr - a combination of factors, including the fact that large numbers of Boomers are retiring right now, a reduced fertility rate (which means that there are fewer workers), and that 16-22 year olds are not going to work (because of increased college participation rates or just "not dropping out of high school").
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Oct 10, 2014 05:01
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Albinator posted:Yup. gently caress that's cold. Is this imperialism??
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Oct 10, 2014 05:02
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Fried Chicken posted:And I was just reading today about how there is a huge glut of post docs in math and hard sciences who are graduating and can't find jobs. So glad I didn't get a PhD.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:03
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DemeaninDemon posted:So glad I didn't get a PhD. It gets better. From an article from a few months back, we hit equilibrium on engineering and CS professionals. Which means that those jobs will be driven to the ground in time. We didn't need to get more H1Bs to get the job done. I find myself mixed with feelings of sympathy for the students that will hit that wall in time and disgust for those who go on about how viable and plentiful those jobs are because they will just accuse those students of laziness or making poor choices. Can we eat the rich yet?
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Oct 10, 2014 05:13
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Jagchosis posted:gently caress that's cold. Is this imperialism?? No no, we don't do that. Hegemonism? Well, maybe.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:14
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there's a big thread on it already because it didn't really have anything to do with US politics
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Oct 10, 2014 05:34
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Aliquid posted:there's a big thread on it already because it didn't really have anything to do with US politics How silly, everything has to do with US politics. I'll find the thread, thanks.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:35
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Aliquid posted:there's a big thread on it already because it didn't really have anything to do with US politics the disappearance of the leader of a nuclear armed state whose collapse could completely gently caress up some of our biggest trading partners is a pretty important thing for US politics.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:40
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Fried Chicken posted:the disappearance of the leader of a nuclear armed state whose collapse could completely gently caress up some of our biggest trading partners is a pretty important thing for US politics. I can't stop the potential derail if you say what I edited out of my post! Actually, that thread is horrible and I hope it gets better because page one sucked. Edit: page 2 sucks as well. Edit: that whole thread sucks. Pohl fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Pohl posted:I can't stop the potential derail if you say what I edited out of my post! actually yeah, i agree. vice and the daily show sure are making a fuss, but everyone else seems pretty cautious and nobody reads cautious articles 
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I haven't finished school yet. Maybe it's not too late to switch. What are the "proper useful degrees" now that CS and engineering are overpopulated? 
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Ditocoaf posted:I haven't finished school yet. Maybe it's not too late to switch. What are the "proper useful degrees" now that CS and engineering are overpopulated? Do what you want to do. By the time you finish, anything that sounded great will be overstaffed and outdated. Basically, do what you like. Pohl fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Brannock posted:Biden looks like a lich. No, there ain't a lot of 35-40 challengers around now.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Isn't the general D&D consensus that the main young guys with political ambitions (Castro, Booker) are still too young? Booker's inexperience would make Obama look like LBJ and he's best known for being a nice guy. Which means he will get his rear end handed to him or he'll be so involved in the political game that you'd probably be better off with George P. Bush instead. Jagchosis posted:unconstitutionally young... 35 years have not elapsed since 1981 It will have been exactly 35 years in 2016.  Ditocoaf posted:I haven't finished school yet. Maybe it's not too late to switch. What are the "proper useful degrees" now that CS and engineering are overpopulated? Become an electrician or a similar hands-on job. Those seem to be in short supply in no small part due to the dumb "if you don't get a college degree gently caress you you worthless scum" mentality that gets pushed.
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Pohl posted:Do what you want to do. By the time you finish, anything that sounded great will be overstaffed and outdated. This is still horrible advice if "what you like" is dancing or playing music. Just saying. And for the record, this is coming from a person with a music performance degree who actually made an above poverty level wage with it for awhile before retraining. If you love that stuff, secure a day job first, then pursue it as an avocation that might make money...unless you're gifted at marketing and have good connections of course!
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Okay, so stupid hypothetical. Which candidates for either party would make for a truly generational election? And would the candidates chosen by both parties, no matter their age, represent a generational politics? Clinton vs. Paul jumps out at me in this scenario, as Gen X citizens are fairly likely to vote and skew conservative/libertarian. Who could run that could turn out Millennials in greater-than-Obama numbers? What are the chances the Democratic candidate is older than the Republican candidate? What are the chances that candidate is older by a whole generation than the opponent? Correct me please, but I believe Romney is the only viable boomer Republican candidate, which signals a major coming shift in generational politics. I'm probably leaving out the B-team, I actually don't know how old Kasich and folk are. I'm not considering Christie a viable national candidate because he's not. i say swears online fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Become an electrician or a similar hands-on job. Those seem to be in short supply in no small part due to the dumb "if you don't get a college degree gently caress you you worthless scum" mentality that gets pushed. I had a plumber today telling me that everyone is a goddamn plumber now, which happened while he was looking right at the maintenance guy from my apartment. This is a long story so I won't bore you, but the plumber straight up told the maintenance guy that he was poo poo, and then insulted him further by saying he did it for $10 an hour or whatever he makes. It was really loving brutal. He did that because maintenance people had been in in my apartment for two days and had been unable to fix the problem. Luckily I'm moving in a few weeks, because they cut the loving wall apart and cut a bunch of pipes and just holy poo poo. I have an incredible mess. The point I'm trying to make is, even being qualified in a particular field like plumbing isn't a guarantee of a job. Everyone is hiring the cheapest person available, and that is often the 'handyman'. Everyone is a goddamn plumber now. Today was a really bizarre day.
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Aliquid posted:Okay, so stupid hypothetical. Which candidates for either party would make for a truly generational election? And would the candidates chosen by both parties, no matter their age, represent a generational politics? Clinton vs. Paul jumps out at me in this scenario, as Gen X citizens are fairly likely to vote and skew conservative/libertarian. Who could run that could turn out Millennials in greater-than-Obama numbers? Irrelevant, no matter how many twenty-year olds vote republican it won't make up for their grandparents being dead.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Become an electrician or a similar hands-on job. Those seem to be in short supply in no small part due to the dumb "if you don't get a college degree gently caress you you worthless scum" mentality that gets pushed. Not trying to discourage you but a lot of career advice and educational advice, while well meaning, doesn't quite grasp how stupid the job market is like. Some degrees are hazardous to future employment but even high demand degrees are not sure bets. Especially with a lack of connections. Research well and keep at it until you have a job or the revolution comes. Whichever comes first.
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SedanChair posted:Irrelevant, no matter how many twenty-year olds vote republican it won't make up for their grandparents being dead. i just spent the evening with a room full of my chronological peers but the average family size was like seven and i'm still hyperventilating
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