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Has anyone figured out why during the life on mars scene it cut to Lange watching the performance in a completely different costume, hair, and make up?
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Mr. Kennedy posted:Has anyone figured out why during the life on mars scene it cut to Lange watching the performance in a completely different costume, hair, and make up? I assumed it was hinting about how Elsa really felt inside. All her insecurities and all that. It's one of those things that would usually be cut because audiences hate being confused, so I'm really happy they had it in there.
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Oct 10, 2014 07:03
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This probably goes without saying, but you can easily correlate the actual lyrics to "Life on Mars?" with Elsa during that scene. The idea of being stuck in reality, knowing there's a better existence out there, yet it's just beyond reach.quote:And she's hooked to the silver screen Which is essentially what Elsa is doing, presumably watching her own performances on film in a saddened gaze. Also, she effectively admitted to Ethel that the only reason she maintains the freak show (not just the acqusition of Bette & Dot,) is to have a place for people to come see her. You could argue the revelation that she herself is without legs, suggests that in the back of her mind, she knows that no amount of attraction or fame or good fortune is going to change her life. For she is forever, a "freak."
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Oct 10, 2014 08:10
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i hope we hear twisty talk
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Oct 10, 2014 13:38
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John Romero posted:i hope we hear twisty talk I hope he has the same accent as Kathy Bates' character, she sounds like Philly Boy Roy
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Oct 10, 2014 14:28
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Emma Roberts had a terrible wig in that preview.
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Oct 10, 2014 16:21
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Feenix posted:How old is your daughter you loving monster? 6, but she's very mature for her age. Kinda funny that it was the balloon animals that freaked her out. My wife wouldn't even come into the room while the clown was on. Thankfully they both missed the lobster hand entertaining young women and freak orgy because my wife would probably have thrown something through the television. Just kidding, my daughter is 18
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Oct 10, 2014 17:09
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Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:29
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wormil posted:
Ok, ok... you're fine then. PIcs? I'm kidding... she's too old for me.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:45
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SomethingLiz posted:Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show. Theres something wrong with your brain meat.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:51
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Twisty better have some hosed up poo poo under his makeup. There's a mask over his mouth and I will not accept Joker scars, Murphy.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:52
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SomethingLiz posted:Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show. I went in assuming it was going to be a setup episode, which is was, as I'm sure the first few will be. AHS doesn't do anything in a hurry, so I'm going to wait until a couple episodes in before really weighing in on it. At least it's taking itself more seriously than Coven, so far  Also you're just wrong about Twisty, sorry. fullroundaction fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Oct 10, 2014 18:53
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SomethingLiz posted:Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show. I don't think you're wrong to say that. I'm still kind of ambivalent on everything besides the clown which is why I decided to give it one more week to see if some plot develops or if it's just going to spin wheels for another season.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:57
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Waffleman_ posted:Twisty better have some hosed up poo poo under his makeup. There's a mask over his mouth and I will not accept Joker scars, Murphy. I like to think he did something to himself to melt his face and the mask together.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:59
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SomethingLiz posted:Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show. I thought it was a good episode but it probably didn't need 90 minutes, especially since Chiklis and Bassett somehow didn't make it into this one. Those were the characters, along with Bates, that I was most looking forward to seeing.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:00
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I like the premiere. I got scared, sad and excited for the rest of the season. I hope it delivers. Also, can anyone spoil Coven for me? I dropped it after they took a break and didn't watch the last episodes since I wasn't enjoying the season.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:01
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radlum posted:I like the premiere. I got scared, sad and excited for the rest of the season. I hope it delivers. It's not even worth knowing how it ends, just that it was very unfulfilling and none of the plots that the audience actually cared about got satisfying resolutions.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:08
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radlum posted:Also, can anyone spoil Coven for me? I dropped it after they took a break and didn't watch the last episodes since I wasn't enjoying the season. Imagine the writing had no direction and a bunch of random poo poo happened because that's what happened. Actually I don't remember or I would tell you but I think someone finally became Supreme, probably blind herbalist daughter witch, but I've purged it from my mind.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:17
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I prefer to think as Coven as a vehicle for Steven Nicks' incredibly embarrassing, multi-episode, product-placement cameo.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:20
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radlum posted:I like the premiere. I got scared, sad and excited for the rest of the season. I hope it delivers. The daughter of the Supreme, I think, became the next Supreme. The girl who was loving Zombie Tate got choked out for being mean and then they went to Disneyworld to celebrate (that's not a joke). Kathy Bates ended up being really racist even though she watched an hour of Roots so she was sent to hell for all eternity. Her version of hell is watching her daughters that were introduced once getting tortured.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:38
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radlum posted:I like the premiere. I got scared, sad and excited for the rest of the season. I hope it delivers. Steve Nicks showed up. Papa Legba showed up and became the most important character. Nan got drowned by Fiona and Leveau; no one cared (not even Nan). Queenie self-rez'd off-screen. Misty got stuck in hell and died. Madison got choked out by ZombieTate. Zoe teleported onto a spike and died, then resurrected by Cordelia. Cordelia's the new supreme. Myrtle got burned at the stake a second time. *** Lalaurie chopped Leveau into tiny pieces and scattered them around New Orleans. Queenie did something or other that effectively 'killed' Lalaurie. Lalaurie's hell is watching her daughters tortured by Leveau (whose hell is torturing Lalaurie's daughters). Fiona dies from cancer. Fiona's hell is Knotty Pines with Axeman.
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Oct 10, 2014 21:10
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Misty and by association Stevie were the best part about Coven 
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Oct 11, 2014 00:16
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Misty and by association Stevie were the best part about Coven The Axeman was pretty great, too. In fact the whole season had some great performances and it was a shame that they were all wasted on such a big loving barely-watchable mess. Good to see that the show seems to be back on-track this season though. It felt like I was watching something at least comparable to Asylum with that premier, but we'll see where it goes.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:29
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Coven did have a lot of good stuff. If you distilled the whole season down to a 3-4 episode supercut (and took liberties fixing the story) it might actually be salvageable.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:38
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The whole season without Death meaning nothing and Madison would have made it a lot better for me. Mytle Snow was so loving great, and Beverly Leslie making a cameo made my night when I first saw that episode.
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Oct 11, 2014 00:43
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SomethingLiz posted:Am I the only one who was a little disappointed with this episode? I love a good evil clown, but I didn't think he was very scary. And the rest of the show was definitely more freak show than horror show. I'm with you on all of this, though I will add I think it was because of the extra 30 minutes, an the fact we were all used to the weird sex stuff now. If this was the second season, lobster clawing vaginas and opium den gang rape would have been terrifying but we've seen it all before so it has no impact (for me last least).
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Oct 11, 2014 01:32
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I'm liking the slow start to this season. One of my complaints about Asylum is that they threw too many supernatural elements at us too quickly and in a way that made it obvious is was real. It ruined the tension for me. As of right now there's nothing explicitly magical happening. I'm hoping it will make the inevitable demons or cryptoids or whatever that much better.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:42
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I honestly have no idea what to think of that first episode. I kind of wish Jessica Lange wasn't once again "the person in charge" and I really don't like her or Bates' fluctuating accents. Twisty is pretty rad and the Irish (?) skeleton tattoo guy owns but I'm honestly ambivalent about the rest. I really hope musical numbers don't become a regular thing and I hope to hell they cement what freaks actually work at the show instead of discarding old ones and having new ones pop up in the background willy nilly. I just really don't know. Coven was terrible and there were equally good and bad parts about this premiere but I guess I mostly just don't think Ryan Murphy can churn out another even half-decent season.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:24
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You're wrong about the musical numbers. Bring on American Horror Picture Show
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Oct 11, 2014 03:32
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I won't be surprised if there's nothing at all unusual behind Twisty's mask. "The real freaks are normal people" etc etc.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:35
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Twisty is nothing. The real freak is that manchild who came to see the show. Something's loving wrong there.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:44
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TrekBek posted:Twisty is nothing. The real freak is that manchild who came to see the show. Something's loving wrong there. I predict he kills Twisty in like the third or fourth episode and takes over as the main villain. What a twist!
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Oct 11, 2014 04:06
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TrekBek posted:Twisty is nothing. The real freak is that manchild who came to see the show. Something's loving wrong there. Mother kept your seat all nice and toasty for you!
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Oct 11, 2014 04:08
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Finally had time to watch the first episode. I'm pretty pleased with it. Tod Browning's classic film "Freaks" from 1932 should be required viewing along with this season, by the way. It's a good watch to this day, and surely is the great great granddaddy of this whole season of AHS.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:11
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Mother kept your seat all nice and toasty for you! Between Twisty and the manchild, there was a lot of unsettling innocence/childishness in this premiere and I'm wondering if that's going to be a recurring thing this season.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:19
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Periodiko posted:It may not be intentional, but the juxtaposition of aw shucks 50's America, stages and red curtains, dark sexuality, physical deformities, and surreal spurts of violence gave me a real David Lynch vibe. Like, he'd never make something exactly like this, but during the song it just hit me like a wave, that same sense of intensely emotional weirdness. The sense of humor and sense of horror. I dunno. One thing that really hit me with these juxtapositions is that perfect mid-century suburban interior (so spot on it took my breath away) versus the red/black freakshow baroque.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:25
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Also, while I was disappointed that filming wouldn't happen in the actual Jupiter, Florida (and thus putting me within stalking distance of Emma Roberts), I can see why he didn't do it. The desolate swampland aesthetic would be hard to find in modern Jupiter, which is a bunch of soulless upscale condos for snowbirds.
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Oct 11, 2014 06:01
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xeria posted:Steve Nicks showed up. For some reason I'm not remembering the bolded one, but I was tuning out a lot past episode 5. Why was that Leveau's hell? Was it because she's just a prop in LaLaurie's hell?
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Oct 11, 2014 19:15
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All I could hear during the musical number was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIb5872TLXo
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I want to say it was to prove a point that Laveau was as bad as Lalaurie? I don't know honestly, I was half tuned out through the end of that season and that finale, Jesus tap dancing Christ was a poo poo show that was. Really enjoyed this premier, feels more focused than last year, and it didn't feel like they were just throwing everything at us all at once. Also I love Sarah Paulson's characters, holy poo poo that's going to be really entertaining this season. Twisty is awesome and they better not gently caress him up. I hated the latex man from Murder House, Bloody Face was amazing and Axe Man was meh, but Twisty already has my attention. He's doing all his acting through his eyes and body language and that scene in the murder bus when he goes apeshit, I was genuinely creeped out. Bates accent gives me the giggles, it's so bad. I'm interested to see if Pepper plays a bigger role this season seeing as this is sort of her prequel story, which I know some people are against tying this season to Asylum but I'm actually okay with that idea. I don't need the whole franchise to be tied together in some big dumb way, but I always assumed that the seasons took place in at least the same general universe of "American Horror Story", however tying these two seasons together could be interesting, unless they gently caress it up, which I could easily see them do.
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