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Nonsense posted:Also the bag bans are spreading nothing the legislature can propose will survive the cities desire to clamp down on bag litter. Actually wasnt it some rural county or town that started it? Plastic bags were causing issues with livestock and wildlife I believe.
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Communist Zombie posted:Actually wasnt it some rural county or town that started it? Plastic bags were causing issues with livestock and wildlife I believe. that actually sounds more disgusting and anger-inducing than just seeing bags all over the loving place because humans are poo poo
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Nonsense posted:that actually sounds more disgusting and anger-inducing than just seeing bags all over the loving place because humans are poo poo yeah you'll still find a lot of old populists out in the square counties. they may be just about the best salt-of-the-earth folks you can still talk to today, but they're rapidly disappearing of the west texas/panhandle counties, ~20 went clinton in '92, ~17 in '96, with 0 blue counties recorded in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012. but they're still there 
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VitalSigns posted:For people who don't care about other cities' local ordinances, the texas legislature sure has a curious number of bills targeting things like Austin's plastic bag ban. That curious number is "one" and it didn't even get a hearing.
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Sorry for the double post, but if anyone is interested the Texas Senate Health and Human Services committee is having an Ebola hearing. Tribune usually has the link.
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Dan Patrick trying to claim ISIS is going to get into the US through the border with Mexico... http://youtu.be/yfZ9eDA2daQ Here's the Washington Post article I found that ad on, btw... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/10/09/the-future-of-gop-relations-with-latinos-in-one-ad/ e_angst fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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e_angst posted:Dan Patrick trying to claim ISIS is going to get into the US through the border with Mexico... Someone else outside of Texas brought it up and was refuted by Homeland Security. This is the natural extension of that info. Incidentally, on my commute, I heard a anti-Wendy Davis ad on the radio. Accusing her of having conflicts of interest. Without any evidence or examples. As though no one in the state legislature can be accused of that. Which only strengthens my opinion that the Karl Rove school of politicking should be wiped out from the face of the Earth. I get that it is politics as usual but that was a terrible ad that people will agree with because Democrats bad!
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Federal judge ruled that the Voter ID law in Texas constitutes a poll tax. Ha!
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zoux posted:Federal judge ruled that the Voter ID law in Texas constitutes a poll tax. Ha!  I remember VDP telling the story that she was denied voting in an election shortly after the law was passed because her name on her voter registration card and her DL didn't match exactly (one included her maiden name while the other didn't). The article didn't mention it, but the law also disproportionately impacts anyone who takes their spouses name (most married women). So glad that nonsense got thrown out.
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Before we all start sucking each other's dicks, remember that the abortion laws were also ruled unconstitutional but a higher court decided to let them be implemented during the appeals process. Abbott will probably argue that the whole state electoral system has been prepared to operate under the new law and will probably ask the Fifth Circuit for the same thing.
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zoux posted:Before we all start sucking each other's dicks, remember that the abortion laws were also ruled unconstitutional but a higher court decided to let them be implemented during the appeals process. Abbott will probably argue that the whole state electoral system has been prepared to operate under the new law and will probably ask the Fifth Circuit for the same thing. Yea it's good to have that ruling but this means nothing until the higher court rules. Abbott, for as much as I legitimately hate him as a human being, knows how to play the game super well, he will probably be able to spin 'yo we already started doing things that were super oppressive, we can't change them this close to the election' well and at least get the rules to stay while things advance.
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Oh speaking of things people vote on, I found some fun facts about ballot measures in Texas, from Ballotpedia:quote:
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zoux posted:Federal judge ruled that the Voter ID law in Texas constitutes a poll tax. Ha! Oh you missed the best parts of the ruling. It wasn't just that it was a poll tax, the judge also found among other things that the burden placed on voters was not commiserate with the "problem" the law was claiming to fix and quote:This Court concludes that the evidence in the record demonstrates that proponents of SB 14 within the 82nd Texas Legislature were motivated, at the very least in part, because of and not merely in spite of the voter ID law’s detrimental effects on the African-American and Hispanic electorate. As such, SB 14 violates the VRA as well as the 14th and 15th Amendments to the Unites States Constitution. The poll tax ruling is pretty airtight, but the findings of fact in the other rulings are also exhaustive and overwhelmingly against Texas. Including tidbits like this: 1970-2014: Redistricting o In every redistricting cycle since 1970, Texas has been found to have violated the VRA with racially gerrymandered districts.
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Shifty Pony posted:
That's not possible, racism is over in the South per SCOTUS.
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zoux posted:Before we all start sucking each other's dicks, remember that the abortion laws were also ruled unconstitutional but a higher court decided to let them be implemented during the appeals process. Abbott will probably argue that the whole state electoral system has been prepared to operate under the new law and will probably ask the Fifth Circuit for the same thing. The abortion law was the Austin court and the voter law is the Corpus Christi court so there's hope there. But yeah, Abbott will get what he wants from the 5th Circuit.
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Is it possible that higher deliberations on the law will stall its re-implementation until after the elections or can Abbott ram it through fast it enough?
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1stGear posted:Is it possible that higher deliberations on the law will stall its re-implementation until after the elections or can Abbott ram it through fast it enough? He will probably seek an immediate ruling and if the ultimate result of the appeal is that the VID law gets thrown out, it will likely be in effect for at least this election. The positive news, I guess, is that it will unlikely flip any elections. The GOP is so far ahead pretty much everywhere the 1-2% of votes the law suppresses probably won't matter anyway.
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Communist Zombie posted:Actually wasnt it some rural county or town that started it? Plastic bags were causing issues with livestock and wildlife I believe.
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Abbot you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever live: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-politics/2014/10/greg-abbott-texas-gay-marriage-ban-reduces-out-of-wedlock-births/ quote:AUSTIN – Attorney General Greg Abbott says Texas’ same-sex marriage ban should remain in place because legalizing it would do little or nothing to encourage heterosexual couples to get married and have children.
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Sardonik posted:Abbot you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever live: Does this mean he thinks every gay marriage means two lost heterosexual marriages?
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The Next Governor of Texas posted:Abbott, who is also the Republican nominee for governor, said parallels could not be drawn between the fight for same-sex marriage and previous cases that overturned bans on sodomy or affirmed the right for interracial couples to marry. Even a really dismissive handwave makes for a pretty lovely counterargument, Greg, drat. I hate that we're going to elect another full slate of Republicans statewide.
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Winter Stormer posted:Even a really dismissive handwave makes for a pretty lovely counterargument, Greg, drat. I hate that we're going to elect another full slate of Republicans statewide. There's still time to pray for a miracle, and get every single person you know to vote.
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Wendy, Wendy, Wendy...quote:"My reaction is if she wants to attack a guy in a wheelchair, that's her prerogative," said Abbott on Fox News Channel's "Hannity." "As for me, I'm running a different type of campaign." I do agree that Abbott is a huge hypocrite with respect to disabled rights (uh and, everything else) but even I know you don't say that poo poo in a campaign. Kill the idiot in charge of that call. Never give your opponent the chance to take the noble, moral high ground.
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zoux posted:Wendy, Wendy, Wendy... I see more anti-wendy commercials than I do anti-abbott. The hypocrisy and fact-spinning that goes on in politics and news in general is a pretty big letdown of our society.
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zoux posted:Wendy, Wendy, Wendy... He doesn't come off as noble, nor moral at all, he's coming off as playing the victim, and that's not held in high regard in every person's mind, rightwing or not. He did some rolling down a highway, complaining about traffic blaming it on Davis and saying EVEN ME A GUY IN A WHEELCHAIR IS FASTER. He's scum.
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Nonsense posted:He doesn't come off as noble, nor moral at all, he's coming off as playing the victim, and that's not held in high regard in every person's mind, rightwing or not. He did some rolling down a highway, complaining about traffic blaming it on Davis and saying EVEN ME A GUY IN A WHEELCHAIR IS FASTER. He's scum. Maybe to you but the Mythical Undecided Voter will see it as a cheap shot. Calling attention to the wheelchair was a bad idea. I mean, it doesn't matter since she'll lose by 12 instead of 9 points but it's just an example of how tone deaf and ineffective her campaign has been.
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zoux posted:Maybe to you but the Mythical Undecided Voter will see it as a cheap shot. Its pretty sweet deal that Abbott got, immunity from personal hypocrisy along with his cash payout. There's nothing Wendy's campaign could have done that would have made this election winnable.
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zoux posted:Maybe not but they could've made it close. Which would have been enough to get the Republicans to be sane and logical because "poo poo, we lost by a much closer margin than we would like, let's not go full pants on head stupid so that we don't risk losing the next election cycle." With enough of a margin between them, the message would be "hey, the people must like our ideas or they wouldn't have voted for us, let's burn this state to the ground." I would like to hope that Republicans are more rational than that. I would also hope the Republicans would lose enough to actually take a hard look at themselves. But past experience shows that neither is going to happen.
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Oh no, Abbott could win by one vote and the state GOP will go loving balls rear end nuts next session. They've got two, maybe three more sessions before one of the houses flips and then they are done for generations. They know it and they have to live it large while they hold the reins, and they are going to hold them as well as they ever have in 2015.
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zoux posted:Oh no, Abbott could win by one vote and the state GOP will go loving balls rear end nuts next session. They've got two, maybe three more sessions before one of the houses flips and then they are done for generations. They know it and they have to live it large while they hold the reins, and they are going to hold them as well as they ever have in 2015. I don't know. 2018 is the absolute earliest we could see any democratic gains in Texas, and it would be a stretch to get a statewide. Maybe 2020-2024 would be a realistic time to gain statewide offices and maybe flip one of the houses, but who knows what the 2020 redistricting maps will look like. How do Democrats get 100% more latinos to vote, have them vote at least as considently D as now, and not lose any more of the white vote? That's what Democrats need to win before 2024.
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As we predicted, the Fifth issued a stay that means the Voter ID requirements will be in place for the November elections.
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Nonsense posted:The laws that are being overturned by courts in TX and WI, are these capable of being brought back up as legislation later or are these rulings solid? Well, as it stands, the laws are in effect in Texas. Its a long time until we know how far these challenges get. For all we know the Supreme Court could just rule the laws valid.
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zoux posted:As we predicted, the Fifth issued a stay that means the Voter ID requirements will be in place for the November elections. Any chance of the Supreme Court revoking the 5th's stay?
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PostNouveau posted:Any chance of the Supreme Court revoking the 5th's stay? No way.
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If God were real those judges would have caught ebola and not the nurse.
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Cross posting from the SCOTUS thread: Thank the various gods... quote:The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday barred Texas from enforcing an abortion regulation that left only seven clinics open in the state. gently caress you Scalia, Alito, and Thomas. Abbot and Perry have got to be livid that their pet women
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That's really good news for a change. I'm not holding my breath they will step into the Voter ID rulings, the election is close.
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The thing I don't get about the stay is that their argument is that it's too close to the election to change the rules. That's only a problem if it's MORE restrictive. Even theoretically if someone went out of the way to get an ID then they're not going to get turned away because they had it. And by "don't get" I mean it's extremely transparently partisan.
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