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Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




The Cheshire Cat posted:

A lot of poo poo that would most likely be deleted if it were new ends up being kind of grandfathered in just because they've become too well known and referenced in too many places to get rid of easily. It's why Able is still on there despite it being the perfect example of what not to write when you're trying to make horror.

It's pretty similar to some of the stuff on tvtropes in that regard. Sometimes it's easier to just say "look, we know this is poo poo, don't use it as a metric for writing your own stuff" than it is to clean up all the cross-references between things, plus the inevitable complaints from the people that hate change.

From a bit ago, but...

It really does not speak well to me that they're not willing to purge stuff even the people in power (presumably) admit is godawful poo poo that would've been deleted as soon as it was found by their most recent standards on the grounds that it'd be annoying to scrub out every reference/

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Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Somfin posted:

On a similar note, the stack of DVDs with pre-recorded responses to all conversations was pretty fun. Basically, when researchers play a given DVD for the first time, the man on screen responds politely to all questions but doesn't know much more about the situation than the researchers do. From all testing, all of the DVDs are completely pre-recorded- rewatching shows exactly the same thing as the first watch showed.

The primary researcher assumes it's some sort of elaborate temporally-displaced prank.

Oh for christ's sake, that's ripped off from the same episode of Doctor Who as the poopy bloody baby statue.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dabir posted:

Oh for christ's sake, that's ripped off from the same episode of Doctor Who as the poopy bloody baby statue.

If you really think Dr. Who was the first place "evil creature that doesn't move when you look at it" showed up, you're the troper here.

Like it's a horror gimmick going back to medieval folktales, which is where Dr. Who ripped it from in 2007.

Hell, that's what Boo does in Super Mario World.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Oct 10, 2014

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dabir posted:

Oh for christ's sake, that's ripped off from the same episode of Doctor Who as the poopy bloody baby statue.

IIRC, the statue actually came first.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


The two apparently happened around the same time. Supposedly, the statue one came out a month before the Weeping Angels episode did.

Not that "thing that attacks when you aren't looking" is a difficult idea to come up with. It's on par with "thing under your bed that grabs your ankle."

Ninjasaurus
Feb 11, 2014

This is indeed a disturbing universe.
Wow, this whole SCP thing sounds loving retarded and terrible. So it's a good topic of conversation for the TVTropes thread, is what I'm saying.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Ninjasaurus posted:

Wow, this whole SCP thing sounds loving retarded and terrible. So it's a good topic of conversation for the TVTropes thread, is what I'm saying.

"Interesting concept executed with stunning incompetence" is basically tvtropes.txt, really.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

mr. stefan posted:

"Interesting concept executed with stunning incompetence" is basically tvtropes.txt, really.

So you're saying "pony torture/rape porn" is an interesting concept?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

So you're saying "pony torture/rape porn" is an interesting concept?

It's interesting in the same way a train wreck full of on-fire dead babies covered in hummus is interesting. At some level you're curious about how it got to that point.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

RaspberryCommie posted:

The best ones are usually just the odd or bizarre ones. Like the racist alien from another universe who talks to researchers by fog writing on a window.

Which one was that?

Ninjasaurus
Feb 11, 2014

This is indeed a disturbing universe.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

It's interesting in the same way a train wreck full of on-fire dead babies covered in hummus is interesting. At some level you're curious about how it got to that point.

Then you find out and say "Nope, gently caress this"

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

TheHeadSage posted:

Haha, I quite liked that one. What's the ratio of good ones to poo poo ones like?

yeah seconding this the commie spiders are a good read

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

yeah seconding this the commie spiders are a good read

This one's great.

Also This one.

Segmentation Fault fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Oct 10, 2014

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
Catching up on this thread (and skimming a heck of a lot - I'm only human) taught me that Cinema Discusso apparently has a bad reputation. Perhaps I don't look hard enough for awfulness (since most of my activity is posting small reviews and lurking the Let's Play-styled threads), but it's still a reminder that even today it's hard to find a quality online community where you can discuss films (both seriously and jokey jokily).

dont make me go to tv tropes guys

quote:

I miss olden timey science fiction where the idea wasn't "teh futures gonna suck so hard gais!" to "Man if we play are cards right the future is GONNA KICK SO MUCH rear end! LOOK AT OUR POWER ARMOR!"

I think you're overthinking this franchise for children posted:

Pokemon are an alien bioweapon created to conquer planets (or given Arceus, regions of space-time) but human beings have managed to adapt the technology (Pokerus, "berries", Apricorns, the newly discovered megastones) for their own use. Why else would humans be the only non Pokemon megafauna left? They simply substitute humanity for their original masters once the right tools are in use but still have a passive aggressive resistance, which badges and what not need to be applied.

Which does not discount it from a cockfighting promotion, though beetle wrestling is more likely given it was made by a bug catcher. Then again Blazekin (one of my least favorite "popular" monsters) is a fighting type. Cockfighting cannot be completely ruled out without word of god.

quote:

Real life is boring, I don't want to watch a movie based on it. The point of movies - of art - (in my opinion) is to create a new reality and immerse you in it, not pull you deeper into the one you're already living in.

Ninjasaurus
Feb 11, 2014

This is indeed a disturbing universe.

quote:

I miss olden timey science fiction where the idea wasn't "teh futures gonna suck so hard gais!" to "Man if we play are cards right the future is GONNA KICK SO MUCH rear end! LOOK AT OUR POWER ARMOR!"

I don't think I've seen that episode of Star Trek.

quote:

Real life is boring, I don't want to watch a movie based on it. The point of movies - of art - (in my opinion) is to create a new reality and immerse you in it, not pull you deeper into the one you're already living in.

James Cameron TVT account spotted.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Nintendo Kid posted:

If you really think Dr. Who was the first place "evil creature that doesn't move when you look at it" showed up, you're the troper here.

Like it's a horror gimmick going back to medieval folktales, which is where Dr. Who ripped it from in 2007.

Hell, that's what Boo does in Super Mario World.


Grizzwold posted:

I'm just going to quote the OP from the SCP thread over here.

DeusExMachinima posted:

For those not in know, the SCP Foundation (SCP stands for "Secure Contain Protect") is what you'd get if you crossed the X-Files with CSI, with the same level of investigative competence. It all got started as a one-off joke on 4chan's paranormal /x/ boards with an unusual copypasta. If that article reads suspiciously close to a Weeping Angel from Doctor Who, consider that it began to show up shortly after the first Weeping Angel episode aired in 2007.

Given the context of the site's userbase, which is more likely? Someone looks at ancient mythological concepts and makes a spooky story out of it, or a giant nerd copies that totally awesome episode of Doctor Who he saw the other day.

SerialKilldeer
Apr 25, 2014

On an unrelated matter, TV Tropes has advice on how to beat people up with large books:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThrowTheBookAtThem posted:

Heavy books are handy to use on humans like squirting water at cats... though if you really want to use them as a weapon, a hard cover one works great, especially the corners.
The spine of a sufficiently thick mass-market paperback might as well be a piece of petrified wood, as it's very tightly-bound paper. Clock someone upside the head with a paperback version of Harry Potter 7, The Silmarillion, or Dune, and they might well fall victim to a VERY substantial concussion. Ironically, the bindings of a hardcover book soften the blow in comparison.
The most common size and binding for the average manga makes it nicely hand-sized when gripped opposite to the spine, and just thin and strong enough for effective aimed strikes to areas such as the wrist. If you're already holding a book, there are much worse choices for an Improvised Weapon.

I don't own any manga, but from what I've seen (my sister owns a bunch) they're not really that large. Like, maybe octavo size.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

SerialKilldeer posted:

On an unrelated matter, TV Tropes has advice on how to beat people up with large books:
The spirit of Troper Tales lives on. :unsmith:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

quote:

Clock someone upside the head with a paperback version of Harry Potter 7, The Silmarillion, or Dune, and they might well fall victim to a VERY substantial concussion.

Nope. Nah-uh. No way.

Shoombo
Jan 1, 2013
I own a paperback of Dune. It's not really thick at all. Or at least not big.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Maybe if it was the Gutenberg Bible or something

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Loki_XLII posted:

I own a paperback of Dune. It's not really thick at all. Or at least not big.

Yeah, you're not gonna get a concussion from it unless it was fired out of a cannon.

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!

quote:

The spine of a sufficiently thick mass-market paperback might as well be a piece of petrified wood, as it's very tightly-bound paper.

Ugggh. Petrified wood is rocks, not compressed paper. Hitting someone with a rock hurts way more than even a thick paperback, which aren't that big anyway.

:goonsay:

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dabir posted:

Given the context of the site's userbase, which is more likely? Someone looks at ancient mythological concepts and makes a spooky story out of it, or a giant nerd copies that totally awesome episode of Doctor Who he saw the other day.

Dude, the first SCP "article" was literally a 4chan post. The dude found that weird rear end Japanese statue pic and wrote the "article" in the 4chan post attached to it. And again, it's literally the attack pattern of Boo from Super Mario World. And it's surely been in multiple Goosebumps books and books like that etc.


Like if I remember right, the original guy who did it has never gone to the site or written any other ones, cuz it was a throwaway post really that happened to spark other people's interest. Half of the writing is describing the way the picture off the artist's gallery website looks. All of the early ones were similarly 4chan or other forum posts that were quite short, and there wasn't a community behind it with a wiki for quite some time.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 10, 2014

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity

Ninjasaurus posted:

Wow, this whole SCP thing sounds loving retarded and terrible. So it's a good topic of conversation for the TVTropes thread, is what I'm saying.

Lovecraft documentary if anyone wants to kill 90 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spoz_1KyZiA

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Nintendo Kid posted:

Dude, the first SCP "article" was literally a 4chan post. The dude found that weird rear end Japanese statue pic and wrote the "article" in the 4chan post attached to it. And again, it's literally the attack pattern of Boo from Super Mario World. And it's surely been in multiple Goosebumps books and books like that etc.


Like if I remember right, the original guy who did it has never gone to the site or written any other ones, cuz it was a throwaway post really that happened to spark other people's interest. Half of the writing is describing the way the picture off the artist's gallery website looks. All of the early ones were similarly 4chan or other forum posts that were quite short, and there wasn't a community behind it with a wiki for quite some time.

I can say this only because I was the biggest Goosebumps fan as a kid because gently caress yeah child horror stories, but no there were no ghosts or aliens or such that acted like that in any of the Goosebumps books.

Or Are You Afraid of the Dark.

Might have been a few in Creature Teacher or whatever that off brand bullshit was.

Hammurabi
Nov 4, 2009

Harime Nui posted:

Lovecraft documentary if anyone wants to kill 90 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spoz_1KyZiA

Goddamn get a load of those comments.

bucketmouse
Aug 16, 2004

we con-trol the ho-ri-zon-tal
we con-trol the verrr-ti-cal

AATREK CURES KIDS posted:

The canon explanation for that now is that there is no SCP 231-7, and the article is a loyalty test. Any researcher who gains the clearance level to read that article and decides to save SCP 231-7 is shot.

The Ones Who Walk Away From TvTropes

bucketmouse
Aug 16, 2004

we con-trol the ho-ri-zon-tal
we con-trol the verrr-ti-cal
double post because awful.app crashes whenever I try to edit my last one:

Burkion posted:

I can say this only because I was the biggest Goosebumps fan as a kid because gently caress yeah child horror stories, but no there were no ghosts or aliens or such that acted like that in any of the Goosebumps books.

Or Are You Afraid of the Dark.

Might have been a few in Creature Teacher or whatever that off brand bullshit was.

It's in one of the Scary Stories books and I'm almost positive the monster is a China doll.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hey is it okay to post about Tropers when they're not on TV tropes? Because here's some stuff if it is.

http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2014/07/11/throwing-popcorn-gravity-falls/

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

RaspberryCommie posted:

That one was supposed to be "What actually happens behind all those [Redacted] or [Data Expunged] labels."

Except it was handled by all the skill and subtlety of, well... a troper.

Honestly it's a bad idea because each SCP has different ideas of what different recurring elements of the canon mean. For example there's an article discussing "Class A Amnestics" as a simple aerosol that can be used as a spray or in gas grenades for use in crowd control and only erases the past several hours of memory, while many articles that bring up the Class A Amnestic treat it as a much more potent tool. IIRC at one point there was a consensus that "Class A Amnestic" was actually a series of beatings and tortures taking advantage of the brain's ability to erase information it finds traumatic.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Hammurabi posted:

Goddamn get a load of those comments.

Off-topic but

some autistic moron posted:

Transgender is more horrific to me, than Lovecraft stories could ever be! There is politicly correct and there is just letting a part of society go against the human nature. If we accept transgender and don't question it anymore, then i believe the future will be very grim. In 200 years from now people will take a pill or a shot and turn into the opposite gender or something in between.

So our descendats will be men one day, women the other and from time to time something in between. In the story Frankenstein the creature was stitched together from different body. Nowadays we have cut open, banana splitt their penises and stitched together into a new being not that far fetched is it? And we are forced to accept this because we have to be "PC" even though we are confused and deep within somewhat terrified. Sorry for the long speech guys, but we need to draw lines.

All of this might sound horrible and fascist, but it's my honest opinion. If you want to hate me for this do it!
But your great grandchildren might be hemophrodites/transgenders from pills or shots, so be prepared!

I think I found Lovecraft's modern reincarnation.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

RareAcumen posted:

Hey is it okay to post about Tropers when they're not on TV tropes? Because here's some stuff if it is.

http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2014/07/11/throwing-popcorn-gravity-falls/

The show has a waitress called Lazy Susan. That's sheer genius.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Off-topic but


I think I found Lovecraft's modern reincarnation.

If the future of medical technology means being able to completely transform the body with just some drugs, that's awesome.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

RareAcumen posted:

Hey is it okay to post about Tropers when they're not on TV tropes? Because here's some stuff if it is.

http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2014/07/11/throwing-popcorn-gravity-falls/

It reads like a serious version of If Films Were Reviewed Like Video Games

Chaltab
Feb 16, 2011

So shocked someone got me an avatar!

Puppy Time posted:

Not that "thing that attacks when you aren't looking" is a difficult idea to come up with. It's on par with "thing under your bed that grabs your ankle."
I see what you did there but I'm not sure if it was intentional.

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

mr. stefan posted:

"Interesting concept executed with stunning incompetence" is basically tvtropes.txt, really.

In the hands of some decent authors, the SCP foundation concept would be a really nifty horror/mystery anthology. But alas, the Internet got its mitts on it first so now it's poo poo.

DarkFleetOne
Nov 11, 2012
In the hands of some competent authors, tropes might still be a vague philosophical response to universals. Hth.

DarkFleetOne
Nov 11, 2012
The worst thing about tvTropes is that none of us can be assed to read http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/tropes/

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Off-topic but I think I found Lovecraft's modern reincarnation.

I love how he's so far down the rabbit hole that he doesn't realise his horrific trans future actually sounds pretty neat.

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