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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:basically "don't put your eggs in one basket" isn't something that the USPTO subscribes to, says my new boss
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I mean, you obviously call her to the stand. Then you say just kidding and you specially except to the pleading and tell the court the hearing cannot go on. I chickened out! Application for Temporary Injunction: denied. So I guess I made the right call by not stirring the poo poo. Plus, OC wasn't objecting to ANY of my questions to her only witness (the plaintiff), so I just went to town, picking up perjury like it was Halloween candy.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:54
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I've never met a patent attorney IRL but this thread is lousy with them.
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Oct 11, 2014 14:24
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I've never met a patent attorney IRL but this thread is lousy with them. As a small, bitter Jew, I can say the only people I've met smaller, more bitter and jewier than me are patent attorneys and Gilbert Gottfried.
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Oct 11, 2014 16:19
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CaptainScraps posted:As a small, bitter Jew, I can say the only people I've met smaller, more bitter and jewier than me are patent attorneys and Gilbert Gottfried. Try being a small bitter Jewish patent attorney.
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Oct 11, 2014 18:35
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I only know one patent attorney and he seems pretty happy, but he is in house. Also, Calvin's dad was a patent attorney so that is what I see when I think patent attorney.
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Oct 11, 2014 18:43
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Kalman posted:Try being a small bitter Jewish patent attorney. I know lots of those.
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Oct 11, 2014 19:37
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I'm applying for jobs on Tuesday (for a patent attorney position)
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Oct 11, 2014 21:13
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm applying for jobs on Tuesday (for a patent attorney position) Rate your bitterness on a scale of coffee with soy milk to a spurned woman, your Jewyness on a scale of John Stewart to Paula Abdul, and your smallness on a scale of Ving Rhames to Vern Troyer. Multiply all three and it's like an LSAT for patent attorneys.
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Oct 11, 2014 22:06
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I just want to point out this guy got waitlisted at Harvard with a 3.75/180 and is now getting a phd. Oh poo poo, this hadn't even occurred to me at all. I thought my LSAT would've expired by now. fuuucccckkkk
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Oct 11, 2014 23:39
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BigHead posted:your Jewyness on a scale of John Stewart to Paula Abdul You're saying Jon Stewart isn't Jewy? 
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Oct 12, 2014 00:07
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nm posted:Also, Calvin's dad was a patent attorney so that is what I see when I think patent attorney. "This is the story of the hydraulic pump (Fig. 1), the wheel shaft flange (Fig. 2), and the evil patent infringement..."
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Oct 12, 2014 00:08
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BigHead posted:Rate your bitterness on a scale of coffee with soy milk to a spurned woman, your Jewyness on a scale of John Stewart to Paula Abdul, and your smallness on a scale of Ving Rhames to Vern Troyer. Multiply all three and it's like an LSAT for patent attorneys. bitter, jewish, but not small where does this get me
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Oct 12, 2014 01:51
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Alaemon posted:"This is the story of the hydraulic pump (Fig. 1), the wheel shaft flange (Fig. 2), and the evil patent infringement..." http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1988/12/03 lawyer.jpg My dad was a lawyer who liked to mountain bike. Unfortunately, I did not have a stuffed tiger.
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Oct 12, 2014 01:52
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nm posted:http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1988/12/03 Not having stuffed animals builds character.
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Oct 12, 2014 04:36
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nm posted:I only know one patent attorney and he seems pretty happy, but he is in house. Being an in house patent attorney owns bones.
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Meatbag Esq. posted:Being an in house patent attorney owns bones.
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Oct 12, 2014 20:20
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Ersatz posted:I'm convinced that going in house is a mirage. Most of the patent attorneys I interact with who are in house work the same crazy hours that I do for less money, and with no hope of hitting it big by making partner. They also seem stressed out most of the time. Whereas the hope of making partner is not a mirage, not at all.
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Vox Nihili posted:Whereas the hope of making partner is not a mirage, not at all.
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Ersatz posted:Fair enough. But, all other things being equal (and they are not), some chance is better than none. But even then, if you don't become the right type of partner, your life is still miserable. Gotta be the kind whose reputation is good enough or personality is popular enough that it brings in or keeps lots of clients, but whose work is fungible enough that you can hand it off to underlings. If you become a partner because you're really good at something in a way that few other people are, then you have to do everything yourself to keep clients happy. If you become a partner because you're fairly competent and you work extremely hard, then you'll be expected to work extremely hard until you burn out.
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Oct 12, 2014 22:40
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MoFauxHawk posted:But even then, if you don't become the right type of partner, your life is still miserable. Gotta be the kind whose reputation is good enough or personality is popular enough that it brings in or keeps lots of clients, but whose work is fungible enough that you can hand it off to underlings. If you become a partner because you're really good at something in a way that few other people are, then you have to do everything yourself to keep clients happy. If you become a partner because you're fairly competent and you work extremely hard, then you'll be expected to work extremely hard until you burn out. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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Oct 12, 2014 22:53
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, anyone at any point on the firm track should count on some amount of miserable. The trick for a new partner, I think, is to save enough to make it possible to live off interest once the burnout inevitably happens. Dropping half of after-tax income into student loan repayments for years helps in developing that kind of discipline. I think the key is to build up a book of business big enough that you can pawn most things off to associates and pick and choose your cases. Now if only that was easy or predictable. The real key is to get a government job. I have Monday off because of some genocidal Italian employed by Spain. Woo.
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Oct 12, 2014 23:31
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Until your government job is drowning in bureaucracy and ugh I want to go private sector (DC only)
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Reasons to go to law school: after graduating, you may some day get to contemplate making a chart of which partners always use two spaces after every period, which use just one space, and which use a random numbers of spaces between 1-10 until it "looks right." Every one of these men will correct any other usage and send the document back to you to revise, and none understand or care about proportional-width fonts and whatever has been "correct" for the past decade or so.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:13
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the milk machine posted:Reasons to go to law school: after graduating, you may some day get to contemplate making a chart of which partners always use two spaces after every period, which use just one space, and which use a random numbers of spaces between 1-10 until it "looks right." Every one of these men will correct any other usage and send the document back to you to revise, and none understand or care about proportional-width fonts and whatever has been "correct" for the past decade or so. Of course, I have forgotten whether he wanted one space or two.
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the milk machine posted:Reasons to go to law school: after graduating, you may some day get to contemplate making a chart of which partners always use two spaces after every period, which use just one space, and which use a random numbers of spaces between 1-10 until it "looks right." Every one of these men will correct any other usage and send the document back to you to revise, and none understand or care about proportional-width fonts and whatever has been "correct" for the past decade or so. It is two loving spaces. I shall accept nothing else! Yes, my dad was a partner and reviewed helped proof my papers in high school. Seriously though, one space is a travesty. I even try to do two while posting on sa on my cell phone.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:45
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Oh good, it's time for this debate again
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Oct 13, 2014 19:03
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Soothing Vapors posted:Oh good, it's time for this debate again There is no debate. Only a correct answer and wrong ones. Two is the correct answer. Let's move to harvard commas.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:10
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Justified Margins = It doesn't loving matter and looks better.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:15
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blarzgh posted:Justified Margins = It doesn't loving matter and looks better. Yeah. Of course, the partner that is the firm's most ardent supporter of two spaces after a period also justifies everything.
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Oct 13, 2014 19:17
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blarzgh posted:Justified Margins = It doesn't loving matter and looks better. I am a big fan of justified. I will still use two spaces because reasons. However, the absolute worst is when people use pleading paper but don't space out the lines to line up with the numbers. Especially if they have two many lines. This is a loving plague in both da and pd offices.
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nm posted:I am a big fan of justified. I will still use two spaces because reasons. The firm I was at before my clerkship only occasionally did CA matters. No matter how many times our CA attorney tried to explain this to our secretaries & even provided them with Word templates, they'd inevitably screw up the lines. So we'd have to spend far more time than is reasonable fixing it. And then we'd see OC's filings, which didn't even bother to try and get anything but the first line on a page correct. So I guess we had that going for us? Arcturas fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 19:29
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nm posted:I am a big fan of justified. I will still use two spaces because reasons. Cite to Plaintiff's Original Petition, Pg. 3, Line ~17/18
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Oct 13, 2014 19:37
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What's wrong with justified margins?
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It bothers and triggers me that SA posts don't save the whitespace with 2 spaces. Like this just had 2 spaces, but it looks like one. I still put them in anyway: God knows my true heart.
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woozle wuzzle posted:It bothers and triggers me that SA posts don't save the whitespace with 2 spaces. Like this just had 2 spaces, but it looks like one. I still put them in anyway: God knows my true heart. Same. I'm sure it was radium's fault. Arcturas posted:The firm I was at before my clerkship only occasionally did CA matters. No matter how many times our CA attorney tried to explain this to our secretaries & even provided them with Word templates, they'd inevitably screw up the lines. So we'd have to spend far more time than is reasonable fixing it. For 28 line: Times New Roman 13 Line spacing at exactly 22.75pt I'm happy I actually had to look that up. Unhappy that I'm spergy enough to have it saved AND looked it up to post it on the internet. nm fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 20:33
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woozle wuzzle posted:It bothers and triggers me that SA posts don't save the whitespace with 2 spaces. Like this just had 2 spaces, but it looks like one. I still put them in anyway: God knows my true heart. It shows up when you get quoted. So I check every post to see who's a true OG
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Oct 13, 2014 20:35
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Two spaces is literally a relic of not having PCs. Gotta move on guys
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semicolonsrock posted:Two spaces is literally a relic of not having PCs. Gotta move on guys What kind of relic are semicolons?
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semicolonsrock posted:Two spaces is literally a relic of not having PCs. Gotta move on guys nm posted:What kind of relic are semicolons?
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