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Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
Patch v1.1.1824 released

Notes: http://forums.firefall.com/community/threads/patch-notes-for-v1-1-1824.5498521/

Highlights:
  • 50% reduction to AoE/Charge modules.
  • Elemental weapons now do damage of that element. Haha all you fools with fire weapons.
  • All elemental chambers are now useless except Chemical Chambers, as they change your damage type, which means you lose any perk bonuses.
  • After their first day, new players get an email with a code for a permanent LGV that expires after 24 hours.
  • New system rewards people who play each day and can remember to click a button four times for 1 hour 50 minutes.
  • ARES Jobs will no longer give white items, only uncommon and above.
  • Another new "New Player Experience".
  • Some new encounters. Also, things like Bandit Camps show up on the map.
  • Ability to return to your home shard. You won't get stuck on eu-west anymore.
  • Lots of changes to Broken Peninsula.

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Fina
Feb 27, 2006

Shazbot!
Wow, so not only do they ignore what the community had to say regarding that change, they also admit that only certain weapons had issues and that it'd cause problems for weapons like the tesla rifle that they'll fix later.

And then on top of that they didn't bother to remove all those broken perks from the list. Did they just push the PTS update out the door or what?

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

Fina posted:

Wow, so not only do they ignore what the community had to say regarding that change, they also admit that only certain weapons had issues and that it'd cause problems for weapons like the tesla rifle that they'll fix later.

And then on top of that they didn't bother to remove all those broken perks from the list. Did they just push the PTS update out the door or what?

Firefall.txt

Inimicul
Oct 14, 2006

Shenanigans!
I haven't been able to muster the interest to log in much lately so Nalin is now your new rocket boot overlord.

Nalin, what do you want to do about Goon2?

precedence
Jun 28, 2010
So I just spent $100 to get the icarus wings, and just got paints/patterns and licenses. worst day ever...

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
I can't justify spending more money than I already have. R5 haven't done much to earn it as of late, and their unresponsiveness to player feedback makes me feel like they are moving towards a specific point for their content, and it's a our way or the highway motto. So I say chill out, wait 6 mos or a year, and then reevaluate.

Counter point: another loving aoe nerf makes me feel like they have no idea what they are doing and are making it up as they go along.

I don't know which is worse.

precedence
Jun 28, 2010

xxEightxx posted:

I can't justify spending more money than I already have. R5 haven't done much to earn it as of late, and their unresponsiveness to player feedback makes me feel like they are moving towards a specific point for their content, and it's a our way or the highway motto. So I say chill out, wait 6 mos or a year, and then reevaluate.

I was/am completely aware of my dumb-assery

JonusRockweller
Jul 3, 2013

precedence posted:

I was/am completely aware of my dumb-assery

I gave it a go with the 300 beans- Got crap all as well, definitely not enough to pull back in enough credits to cover the loss. I'm surprised theres not a Casino in Dredge or Copa, seems all we do in this game is gamble. RNG loot, RNG crafting, RNG nerfs, RNG tokens, RNG hoping the game managed to stitch it's rear end back together.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Inimicul posted:

I haven't been able to muster the interest to log in much lately so Nalin is now your new rocket boot overlord.

Nalin, what do you want to do about Goon2?

I created a new character, Nalin2, and applied to GOON2.

JonusRockweller posted:

I gave it a go with the 300 beans- Got crap all as well, definitely not enough to pull back in enough credits to cover the loss. I'm surprised theres not a Casino in Dredge or Copa, seems all we do in this game is gamble. RNG loot, RNG crafting, RNG nerfs, RNG tokens, RNG hoping the game managed to stitch it's rear end back together.

Luckily they are dealing with RNG crafting. They are designing a new crafting system that can take the random out of prefixes.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

xxEightxx posted:

I can't justify spending more money than I already have. R5 haven't done much to earn it as of late, and their unresponsiveness to player feedback makes me feel like they are moving towards a specific point for their content, and it's a our way or the highway motto. So I say chill out, wait 6 mos or a year, and then reevaluate.

Counter point: another loving aoe nerf makes me feel like they have no idea what they are doing and are making it up as they go along.

I don't know which is worse.

I feel the same way and I hate it.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
NOTICE

I purged GOONS of everybody inactive for 120 days. If you feel there was a mistake, feel free to send me a message here or in-game (same name) and I'll re-invite you.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
All of you still in Archeage? I went to check out the thread a while back but it got gassed and mod threatened ban for anyone who recreated an Archeage thread.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Don't know about everybody else but I'm on Kyrios still playing and very much enjoying the game away from all the stupid drama and bullshit that seems to crop up every other day.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
If anybody has a massive supply of resonators from beta (like, thousands of them), there is currently a way to turn them into a lot of Broken Peninsula vouchers with time and, optionally, some red beans. Broken Peninsula vouchers can buy improved versions of some modules, as well as some special battleframe cores. If you have a massive stash, let us know in-game so we can convert them to vouchers.

Nektu
Jul 4, 2007

FUKKEN FUUUUUUCK
Cybernetic Crumb
Moving away from the misgivings of dissillusionised vets for a moment, is this game fun for a new player if you just want to waste a bit of time now and then?

Any class thats particular useless and should be avoided?

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Nektu posted:

Moving away from the misgivings of dissillusionised vets for a moment, is this game fun for a new player if you just want to waste a bit of time now and then?

Any class thats particular useless and should be avoided?

Sure. There's actually quite a decent amount of content for a new player. When you first log in, do the initial tutorials and then log off. This will start a 24 hour countdown timer. You can then log in and continue playing. After the 24 hours are up, log in again for a free vehicle. The offer is only valid for a day after that initial countdown. If you miss the free vehicle, you will have to wait until you get to level 25 to earn it.

The weakest class, in my opinion, is probably the Electron. It is an advanced frame, so you won't be able to unlock it unless you reach a frame to level 40, buy it with credits, or buy it with money. You start out with five basic battleframes, one for each archetype. You can switch between them at will, so find the one you like.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Oh come now basic Engineer is just as bad as the Electron.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Nalin posted:

Sure. There's actually quite a decent amount of content for a new player. When you first log in, do the initial tutorials and then log off. This will start a 24 hour countdown timer. You can then log in and continue playing. After the 24 hours are up, log in again for a free vehicle. The offer is only valid for a day after that initial countdown. If you miss the free vehicle, you will have to wait until you get to level 25 to earn it.

As someone who's played on and off (more off than on I guess) since closed beta and who is still a few hours grinding away from getting that level 25 vehicle I have to simply say "gently caress you Red5. gently caress you and the horse you rode in on." I paid for a Founders package and didn't get a loving LGV and now every Tom, Dick and Harry can get one without waiting until level 25 to craft one, or paying a cent towards the game.

Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Oct 12, 2014

Inimicul
Oct 14, 2006

Shenanigans!

Nalin posted:

I created a new character, Nalin2, and applied to GOON2.

Done.

CitrusFrog posted:

As someone who's played on and off (more off than on I guess) since closed beta and who is still a few hours grinding away from getting that level 25 vehicle I have to simply say "gently caress you Red5. gently caress you and the horse you rode in on." I paid for a Founders package and didn't get a loving LGV and now every Tom, Dick and Harry can get one without waiting until level 25 to craft one, or paying a cent towards the game.

Did you buy the $100 Commanders founder pack? That's the only one that came with the bike.

Also, what's this about the Archeage being kicked out? Can I get a TL/DR on the drama?

Any other games worth playing right now?

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Nektu posted:

Moving away from the misgivings of dissillusionised vets for a moment, is this game fun for a new player if you just want to waste a bit of time now and then?

Any class thats particular useless and should be avoided?

I just started playing this game about three days ago and I think it's worth giving a try. Gunplay in this game is really good and I absolutely love how mobile you are, so at worst you shoot stuff and fly around for a few days until you get bored.

Personally, I'm leveling an Assault first, and Crater is my favorite skill in any game since forever. GIBS EVERYWHERE.

Otherwise, it's your average free MMO except it's gimmick is being an FPS instead. It works for me since I was looking for a new MMO for me to play.

e: Actually, on that note, is there any trick to aiming crater? Sure it's hilarious using three afterburners and going as high up in the air as possible before crushing everything underneath you, but sometimes I just miss the mark because looking all the way down still isn't straight down.

(I'm still going to do it at every opportunity, even if I miss)

Renegret fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Oct 12, 2014

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Renegret posted:

I just started playing this game about three days ago and I think it's worth giving a try. Gunplay in this game is really good and I absolutely love how mobile you are, so at worst you shoot stuff and fly around for a few days until you get bored.

Personally, I'm leveling an Assault first, and Crater is my favorite skill in any game since forever. GIBS EVERYWHERE.

Otherwise, it's your average free MMO except it's gimmick is being an FPS instead. It works for me since I was looking for a new MMO for me to play.

The best part about crater is that you have afterburner as well. Stick some good deployment modules on it and you can get it to 5 uses. If you point straight up, you'll afterburner straight up. So I always liked to piss off a Hisser house and afterburner straight up and crater then pick up all the giblets. :v:

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

DelphiAegis posted:

The best part about crater is that you have afterburner as well. Stick some good deployment modules on it and you can get it to 5 uses. If you point straight up, you'll afterburner straight up. So I always liked to piss off a Hisser house and afterburner straight up and crater then pick up all the giblets. :v:

Yeah, see my edit. When I thought to combine it with afterburner I felt like some sort of loving wizard. Unfortunately, unless everything is aggroed on me and is trying to melee me from the ground, I always miss :(

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
It still does decent damage even from not ridiculously far up, and there are melee mobs that will gather under you even in the later game's missions, so it's still useful. There's also a version of crater called Shielded Crater which you buy from special vendors and craft yourself, and it makes a huge shield where you impact every time.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Renegret posted:

e: Actually, on that note, is there any trick to aiming crater? Sure it's hilarious using three afterburners and going as high up in the air as possible before crushing everything underneath you, but sometimes I just miss the mark because looking all the way down still isn't straight down.

You can use your WASD keys to aim the crater as you are falling. Just look down and attempt to maneuver where you want.


Inimicul posted:

Also, what's this about the Archeage being kicked out? Can I get a TL/DR on the drama?

I don't want to derail the thread so I'll PM you about it.

AirborneNinja
Jul 27, 2009

Morglon posted:

Oh come now basic Engineer is just as bad as the Electron.

The basic Engineer is perfectly competent, as is the Electron. For an advanced frame the Electron doesn't improve upon the base very much. A shield of dubious usefulness, lackluster damage ability, useless support deployable, and an underwhelming HKM.
The only reason I consider them even close in respective power is the Electron can use all the Engineers gear.
Old Electron was a loving monster.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Nalin posted:

I don't want to derail the thread so I'll PM you about it.

I'm interested, so :justpost:?

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
So, it looks like with the latest patch, Red 5 broke loot lockouts for Baneclaw / Kanaloa. If you DIDN'T complete Bane/Kana before the patch, you can now farm them for loot over and over. Probably won't get fixed until Monday or Tuesday, so have fun.

Also, if you have a bunch of resonators from open beta, let me know in-game.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

DelphiAegis posted:

I'm interested, so :justpost:?

I wandered over to the new thread and holy poo poo thought I was on 4chan. I too would be interested in tl:dr.

Also if this where a bunch of ff goons have gone, also curious if its worth getting into or if its just a time sink until The Next Big Game comes along.

ErrantSystems
Jul 5, 2009
So for anyone interested in BP vouchers, and particularly people with a lot of crystite resonators (I'm looking at you Nipples), we're going to do a voucher farm thing in a bit tonight where we convert resonators to vouchers in BP at around a 4:1, resos:vouchers, ratio. Might start in an hour or two, not entirely sure (still coordinating others).

ErrantSystems fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Oct 12, 2014

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

ErrantSystems posted:

So for anyone interested in BP vouchers, and particularly people with a lot of crystite resonators (I'm looking at you Nipples), we're going to do a voucher farm thing in a bit tonight where we convert resonators to vouchers in BP at around a 4:1, resos:vouchers, ratio. Might start in an hour or two, not entirely sure (still coordinating others).

I should also add that even if you don't have resonators, you can still attend and get vouchers.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Well the long and short of the ArcheAge thing is this one guy got an underage girl to pose for naked for him some years ago while he was in EVE Goonswarm. Apparently he also posted some of those pictures to their forums and I have no idea why he wasn't kicked and banned back then but he kept on playing games with goons and it kept coming up. Now fast forward to ArcheAge where it is brought up again and for some reason that is beyond me just widely ignored until it popped up in the thread. SCT the then leader claimed he didn't know any of this and people came forward posting screenshots and the like proving that they have been telling him for the better part of six months and he had done nothing, at which point he switched to saying he thought it was a joke.

People were fairly upset by this and declared bullshit on him and eventually someone else heard about it and actually kicked the guy. It doesn't stop there though, it turns out another guy on the inside was still playing with the guy and allegedly at some point tried to get an alt of his back into the guild. He was then kicked too but people still kept bringing it up, asking for one or the other to be reinvited because they liked them or some other reasons. Meanwhile most of the Goonsquad officers left to join the pirate faction in game after being guild pushed to fairly expensive ships and gear which also pissed some people off.

Since this first became public on the forums here there has been a shitstorm of people just stepping forward in one way or another and being incredibly stupid, from arguing semantics to actually saying they don't care what the guy and various other things along those lines and being beaten down by every other person in the thread and tons of image macros and what have you. And this poo poo keeps happening at least once a week, thread will do fine then someone steps up and melts down, followed by pages upon pages of more image macros and people telling them how horrible they are.

Meanwhile I'm sitting on a different server with a small group of people because I knew some poo poo would come up, I just never expected it to happen this quickly and be of this magnitude. Not sure what to make of all of this and also this is the short version there is so much more but I'm still sticking with this game because it's fairly fun and Red5 seem to try to make this game worse at every turn.

Edit: I still want to get in on the detonator thing we should hook up some time.

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001

ErrantSystems posted:

So for anyone interested in BP vouchers, and particularly people with a lot of crystite resonators (I'm looking at you Nipples),

That's me. I was told about it in game today but I was so hideously bored by that point that I went off to go play something else that was actually fun.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
We did have someone on one of the other teams in Broken Penis come by and crater the group a few times. I hope he got a good video out of it. :v:

As a side note, I TOLD YOU FUCKERS IT WAS REAL:

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Nobody ever doubted it was real we just thought it was hilarious.

Nektu
Jul 4, 2007

FUKKEN FUUUUUUCK
Cybernetic Crumb
Ok, that 24h timer ahs to be elapsed, but no motorcycle showed up. How do I actually claim it?


Edit: Ok, it appeared in account items after all. Now I only have to find out how to DISMOUNT that thing again (E wont work :derp:)

Nektu fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Oct 13, 2014

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
Try driving it off a cliff.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
I MUST CRATER EVERYTHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk8hhW23Kvo

even if it doesn't work out :v:

e: and for the record, yes as soon as I started jumping I knew I had a terrible angle for a crater and it was only going to end in tears for me. You an see the gears in my brain moving as I hesitate at the apex of the jump. But I had to try, dammit, the boss was almost dead!

Renegret fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Oct 13, 2014

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Yeah dismounting isn't bound by default you have to set it yourself. It's loving dumb I know.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

Renegret posted:

I MUST CRATER EVERYTHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk8hhW23Kvo

even if it doesn't work out :v:

e: and for the record, yes as soon as I started jumping I knew I had a terrible angle for a crater and it was only going to end in tears for me. You an see the gears in my brain moving as I hesitate at the apex of the jump. But I had to try, dammit, the boss was almost dead!

Got to hit inferno dash right before crater so you get FLAMING CRATER!

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Nektu
Jul 4, 2007

FUKKEN FUUUUUUCK
Cybernetic Crumb

Doodles posted:

Try driving it off a cliff.
I did. Logging out proved to work. :downs:

Morglon posted:

Yeah dismounting isn't bound by default you have to set it yourself. It's loving dumb I know.
I did check the keybindings, but I guess I missed that.


Edit: Regarding crafting...

What are those HKMs that can be produced with battleframe production? Is crafting useful to support leveling or is the gear you find as good/better?

Nektu fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Oct 14, 2014

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