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StandardVC10 posted:He did already get himself punched in Wisconsin but I understand if you feel that injury isn't serious enough. Wasn't that so he could claim they were "union thugs" instead of people peacefully demonstrating?
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Also it wasnt that he said something. He pushed a guy after getting up in his face and the guy punched him. Of course Crowder had the first part edited out. Charges against the guy that punched him were dropped when it turned out Crowder had instigated the confrontation.
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Oct 12, 2014 20:50
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StandardVC10 posted:He did already get himself punched in Wisconsin but I understand if you feel that injury isn't serious enough. That was in Michigan  It's the only thing in a long time I can feel good about the old home state 
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Oct 12, 2014 21:04
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I can't remember if I ever saw footage of exactly how the guy ended up on the ground, but yeah I remember Crowder definitely edited out the part showing the guy getting up from being on the ground.
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Oct 12, 2014 21:05
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I fully agree that media can effect people for the worst. Just today, my mother tried the old "There's two sides" truth is in the middle BS. Nevermind that one side lies on a consistent basis.
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Oct 12, 2014 22:45
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I hear often how "the government can't function because both sides won't listen to each other." Never mind how one side is basically loony far-right at this point and the other is still probably center right.
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Oct 12, 2014 22:54
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I hear often how "the government can't function because both sides won't listen to each other." Never mind how one side is basically loony far-right at this point and the other is still probably center right. The right's definition of "listening to the right" is literally "do whatever the right says without question all the time no matter what, never argue, and never say anything the right disagrees with."
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Oct 12, 2014 22:59
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Where's that Limbaugh quote about how the Republican definition of compromise is Democrats doing what Republicans say.
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Oct 12, 2014 23:16
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I hear often how "the government can't function because both sides won't listen to each other." Never mind how one side is basically loony far-right at this point and the other is still probably center right. This belief is usually driven by the idea that yeah, Republicans do obstruct (BUT based on principle, you see) but Democrats say mean things about Republicans and hurt their fees fees and that just spoils the whole system.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The right's definition of "listening to the right" is literally "do whatever the right says without question all the time no matter what, never argue, and never say anything the right disagrees with." I'm trying to recall the ratio, but wasn't there a point where Boehner or Cantor were asked "Would you accept a compromise that's 80% cuts and 20% new revenue?" and of course the answer was no.
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Fulchrum posted:Where's that Limbaugh quote about how the Republican definition of compromise is Democrats doing what Republicans say. That also came from a member of Congress back in 2010, I believe.
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sweart gliwere posted:I'm trying to recall the ratio, but wasn't there a point where Boehner or Cantor were asked "Would you accept a compromise that's 80% cuts and 20% new revenue?" and of course the answer was no. I like how the right showed their true colors during the government shut down. I know they're playing it up like it was something they did because they hold to their principles no matter what the cost but really, this is basically how the conversation went:  : You will do everything we want or we'll shut down the government and destroy the whole world economy. : Uhhh...no. Can't you compromise? : You can compromise by doing everything we want. : No, you're insane and want to gently caress over anybody that doesn't vote Republican. : THE DEMS WON'T COMPROMISE! OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA DELIBERATELY BY FORCING US TO SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I like how the right showed their true colors during the government shut down. I know they're playing it up like it was something they did because they hold to their principles no matter what the cost but really, this is basically how the conversation went:
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:And yet there's a very real possibility that we're going to see the Republicans take the Senate. To be fair, I think the current Democratic party is about as uninspiring as it's been in modern times.
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beatlegs posted:To be fair, I think the current Democratic party is about as uninspiring as it's been in modern times. It was worse in 2003-2006, just IMO.
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There is a virus going around called Enteriovirus d68 that has been killing children. Fox News posted an article about six things parents should know http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/03/6-things-all-parents-should-know-about-enterovirus-d68/ 1.What makes the strain unique? 2. When will it end? 3. What are neurological symptoms 4. Why is strain so widespread Question #5 quote:5. Is there any relationship between this outbreak and the massive numbers of illegal immigrants crossing the borders? Marc Siegel MD is a professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Medical Center. He is a member of the Fox News Medical A Team. Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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sweart gliwere posted:I'm trying to recall the ratio, but wasn't there a point where Boehner or Cantor were asked "Would you accept a compromise that's 80% cuts and 20% new revenue?" and of course the answer was no. To say nothing of the primary debate from the last cycle in which candidates were asked if there was any ratio they'd accept that wasn't 100% cuts. Couldn't even get a single member of the clown car (Huntsman!) to raise their hands for 10:1. The most illuminating quote I've heard on compromise was "When a gunman takes a convent hostage and wants to kill all of the nuns... you don't want any of the nuns killed. Is it really compromise to say that they'll only kill half?" Contextually, of course, this puts "killing nuns" on the same level as "raising taxes"... which I'm pretty sure any good rightie would tell you understates the moral and economic damage of increased taxes.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I like how the right showed their true colors during the government shut down. I know they're playing it up like it was something they did because they hold to their principles no matter what the cost but really, this is basically how the conversation went: That's not quite what happened. You missed the part how after the shutdown the Republicans went into overdrive to deny that they were responsible for causing the shut down.
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It's obviously the fault of the filthy immigrants. Can't possibly be a result of living in a globalized world where people and the illnesses they might be carrying are capable of traveling thousands of miles in days.
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Buried alive posted:That's not quite what happened. You missed the part how after the shutdown the Republicans went into overdrive to deny that they were responsible for causing the shut down. Republicans went into overdrive trespassing on Federal parks that were closed down because they didn't have money to stay open saying "who did this?"
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Oct 13, 2014 04:26
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Obama prevents school children from taking tours of national monuments!
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Geoff Peterson posted:To say nothing of the primary debate from the last cycle in which candidates were asked if there was any ratio they'd accept that wasn't 100% cuts. Couldn't even get a single member of the clown car (Huntsman!) to raise their hands for 10:1. Wait, did they seriously use killing nuns as the example? Because  .
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Phone posted:Republicans went into overdrive trespassing on Federal parks that were closed down because they didn't have money to stay open saying "who did this?" The "veteran visits closed war memorial" stories got way more traction than deserved. I had to remind coworkers that for all the solemn elderly patriots going to DC for the first time, conveniently choosing the worst possible time in more than five years, there's going to be a few guys taking a leak or littering or dropping cigarettes. Maybe even graffiti. Not to mention basic public safety - was DC metro supposed to assign police officers to patrol every monument? Who's liable when somebody gets robbed or stabbed or raped at an unguarded memorial Republicans chose to close? And right after that, contrast news coverage of "shutdown cost" with "Obamacare website cost" - we all know the shutdown cost an order of magnitude more, but of course the centrist insurance website catches more flack than the blatantly partisan shutdown.
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sweart gliwere posted:The "veteran visits closed war memorial" stories got way more traction than deserved. I had to remind coworkers that for all the solemn elderly patriots going to DC for the first time, conveniently choosing the worst possible time in more than five years, there's going to be a few guys taking a leak or littering or dropping cigarettes. Maybe even graffiti. Not to mention basic public safety - was DC metro supposed to assign police officers to patrol every monument? Who's liable when somebody gets robbed or stabbed or raped at an unguarded memorial Republicans chose to close? The best part was the GOP accusing the Democrats of deliberately only shutting down the most well-liked parts of the government to trick people into thinking the government does things that people like.
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Geoff Peterson posted:The most illuminating quote I've heard on compromise was "When a gunman takes a convent hostage and wants to kill all of the nuns... you don't want any of the nuns killed. Is it really compromise to say that they'll only kill half?" Uhh... yes? That is exactly what a compromise is? It's not a good compromise given that one side in that example is insane and should ideally be taken out with an application of overwhelming force, but failing that, half is surely better than all. This makes me wonder if the bullshit "we don't negotiate with terrorists" type of rhetoric plays some part in this 'don't compromise ever' mentality. If someone takes over a convent and you don't have a law-enforcement or military solution available then you better drat well start to negotiate and compromise or poo poo is going to go bad. I mean gently caress, even sending in a SWAT team or whatever knowing they expect like 10% of the hostages will be killed in the process is a loving compromise from your desire of none killed.
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I saw a clip on Fox News from Huckabee's show. It was Huckabee complaining about how the Judicial Branch is trampling the Constitution. Apparently, whenever any branch of the government actually does their job (and that job is not what conservatives want), it is them merely trampling the Constitution.
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Orange Devil posted:Uhh... yes? That is exactly what a compromise is?  We want a million dollars and an Apache helicopter or else we'll kill all the nuns. And no pursuit: we've wired the convent to blow at our signal How about five hundred bucks, an Escalade, and a 10-minute head start, plus you get to kill five nuns. Seven nuns. And we get to rape them before. After Fine
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Geoff Peterson posted:The most illuminating quote I've heard on compromise was "When a gunman takes a convent hostage and wants to kill all of the nuns... you don't want any of the nuns killed. Is it really compromise to say that they'll only kill half?" Another metaphor I've heard for this is one person wanting spaghetti for dinner, the other wanting rat poison instead with the proposed compromise being spaghetti with rat poison sauce. Of course, I've heard a libertarian use this exact metaphor to refer to taxes so whatever.
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Oct 13, 2014 14:49
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Republican talking points make sense once you look at them from the point of view of people that are commited to being the cheapest mother fuckers in history.
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In fundie land the idea of compromise has become synonymous with treason. The republicans in the House aren't quite so extreme however. they have met the fundies halfway and decided their idea of compromise is that the other side gets to continue to exist as long as it is in a diminished capacity. For example the Govt's shutdown. the compromise was that the government got to continue to exist.
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Geoff Peterson posted:The most illuminating quote I've heard on compromise was "When a gunman takes a convent hostage and wants to kill all of the nuns... you don't want any of the nuns killed. Is it really compromise to say that they'll only kill half?" That is a phenomenally bad analogy for compromising, not only for its insane false equivocation and unintentional historical hilarity, but also from a rhetorical point of view. If the gunman has "taken a group hostage" because he wants to kill them, he is probably gonna kill them.
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Radish posted:Republican talking points make sense once you look at them from the point of view of people that are commited to being the cheapest mother fuckers in history.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I like how the right showed their true colors during the government shut down. I know they're playing it up like it was something they did because they hold to their principles no matter what the cost but really, this is basically how the conversation went:  Actually referenced by a member of the House/Senate on the floor (don't remember which).
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Oct 13, 2014 16:33
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Kind of a random request, but can someone post that comic of Obama pulling all the levers that say something like "what people think the President does"? I tried Google image searching for it, but am coming up blank.
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Dirk Funk posted:Kind of a random request, but can someone post that comic of Obama pulling all the levers that say something like "what people think the President does"? It's in the OP of the political cartoons thread. 
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Thank you.
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Mister Macys posted:
This house is listed for $400,000 what's your offer. I'll give you zero dollars for the house plus I want the HOA to stop maintaining the sidewalks and not charge me any fees but I do want it to cover any gambling debts I might incur. Also I want the blacks kicked out of the neighborhood. No, get the gently caress out. YOU'RE NOT COMPROMISING!!
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Do conservatives believe that the entire judicial system is part of some liberal conspiracy just like they believe all scientists are part of a climate change conspiracy? This is flat earth forums type logic, how do they not realize how batshit insane they sound?
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Megaschmoo posted:Do conservatives believe that the entire judicial system is part of some liberal conspiracy just like they believe all scientists are part of a climate change conspiracy? I've heard sound bytes of conservatives claiming that Ebola in the USA is some kind of political correctness conspiracy (I can't remember the exact wording, but political correctness was part of it). I still can't wrap my head around that one  At this point everything is some kind of evil liberal conspiracy.
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Hazo posted:It's fascinating how the right talks about lazy entitled liberal scum always wanting and taking things yet the majority of their platform is built on being as greedy and hoarding as possible. It's the good old conservative strategy of attributing one's weaknesses to their opponents. Weaponized projection! The most destructive WMD!
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