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En Fuego posted:You wanna hear some stupid poo poo regarding Rhino? I watched on camera at WA States (Shotgun Lotus did the coverage) where there was a 4c Esper control. The splash? Rhino. Woah, woah, woah. This. This is my loving jam. Has anybody seen a list, or know where I could possibly find this.
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I Love You! posted:FIXED, i rule. Now you can watch me flood mana and get punched in the face by infect! That deck looks retarded. I don't even think it's close to an optimal configuration but having ancestral recall takes it from a mediocre deck to crushing the best stuff in the format.
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Oct 14, 2014 04:32
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bhsman posted:Now I'm curious. Where did this happen?
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Oct 14, 2014 04:41
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Yeah that was pretty rough looking. Especially watching I Love You draw like 20 cards and see a single land.
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Oct 14, 2014 04:45
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Just watched Modogrinder1 on twitch get his rear end handed to him by a 5 color deck with Knuckleblade, Rattleclaw Mystic, Pearl Lake Ancient, Kheru Lich Lord, Abzan Ascendancy, and Flying Crane Technique - to go along with Dead Drop, Bear's Companion, and many other gems.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:06
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Count Bleck posted:Imagine the fear in the Goyfbuyer's heart when theor opponent makes their really awesome 6/7 a 3/4 and all he did was draw 3. You seem to be under the impression that goyf using decks (G/B especially) lack the means to pump a goyf to 6/7 with their own graveyards. Cruise is also notably not an instant.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:14
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Haven't seen a deck running yet in the dailies. I don't know if merfolk pitches enough cards to make it worthwhile. I've been happy with it in Merfolk as a 1-2 of because my yard is always full of dead lords and silvergills. Dig Through Time would probably be better in the monoU version but I'm currently on UW.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:26
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Zoness posted:You seem to be under the impression that goyf using decks (G/B especially) lack the means to pump a goyf to 6/7 with their own graveyards. as it turns out, goyf decks also play cards
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Oct 14, 2014 06:50
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RME posted:as it turns out, goyf decks also play cards Nah man it's gonna go full circle where we go back to playing tribal cards to pump our goyfs because of the looming threat of graveyard hate.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:55
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Zoness posted:Nah man it's gonna go full circle where we go back to playing tribal cards to pump our goyfs because of the looming threat of graveyard hate. lock it up in a cage and let it rest in peace; a relic of a forgotten age
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Oct 14, 2014 07:10
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Zoness posted:Nah man it's gonna go full circle where we go back to playing tribal cards to pump our goyfs because of the looming threat of graveyard hate. Didn't Bitterblossom see some play in modern partly due to that?
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Oct 14, 2014 07:15
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TheKingofSprings posted:Didn't Bitterblossom see some play in modern partly due to that? No, but Tarfire did.
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Oct 14, 2014 07:16
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Toshimo posted:No, but Tarfire did. And Nameless Inversion. It even got a textless version because of how much it saw play!
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Oct 14, 2014 07:26
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Guys, this is awesome and adorable. A former Pro Tour player goes into teaching. He teaches an after-school class for Magic. He asks Wizards if he can let some kids from his class spectate. Wizards rolls out the red carpet for them.
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Oct 14, 2014 07:30
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Zemyla posted:Guys, this is awesome and adorable. What is this warm, cloying feeling in my cold black grog heart?
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Oct 14, 2014 07:45
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TheKingofSprings posted:Didn't Bitterblossom see some play in modern partly due to that? People were running Seal of Fire in certain Goyf decks early into the life of Modern. Courser didn't exist, and Blossom was still banned.
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Oct 14, 2014 08:31
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It's truly a crime that Thoughtseize wasn't a Tribal Sorcery- Faerie
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Oct 14, 2014 09:05
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Zoness posted:You seem to be under the impression that goyf using decks (G/B especially) lack the means to pump a goyf to 6/7 with their own graveyards. My favorite moment of last week's local legacy night was when an opponent on Huang's UR Delver list cast Treasure Cruise, recounted card types in our yards, and realized his TC had actually made my Goyf bigger.
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Oct 14, 2014 10:45
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Just watched Modogrinder1 on twitch get his rear end handed to him by a 5 color deck with Knuckleblade, Rattleclaw Mystic, Pearl Lake Ancient, Kheru Lich Lord, Abzan Ascendancy, and Flying Crane Technique - to go along with Dead Drop, Bear's Companion, and many other gems. 5 color rares is definitely a thing. Just pick bombs, then fixing, then removal, and go to town in packs 2 and 3 when people are passing clan cards because they're not in the correct 3 colors. Also Modogrinder - his actual name is Noah - is awesome and pretty much the only magic streamer I watch. He never double queues and is crazy about explaining the logic behind every pick or play he makes. Well worth watching to get better.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:07
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Khans limited is pretty ridiculous right now online. I threw 20 tix at it a week ago to see how far it would get me. I'm at 137 right now, plus 39 boosters. May it never stop.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:48
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Khans limited is insanely fun. I always end up with a giant pile of playables too, which is really nice.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:15
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When do you buy list your cards? At what spread do you hold/trade/eBay/buylist? Do legacy/modern/edh playables get different considerations, what about price point?
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Oct 14, 2014 14:22
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Gyshall posted:Khans limited is insanely fun. I always end up with a giant pile of playables too, which is really nice. Yeah, I have yet to have the experience of having to begrudgingly run junk for cards 22 and 23, even in a format where I'm often spending a bunch of picks on lands. Set is just full to the brim with playables. In a pinch you could always run an off-color morph as a Gray Ogre, but I've never had to reach that far.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:29
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tirinal posted:Khans limited is pretty ridiculous right now online. I threw 20 tix at it a week ago to see how far it would get me. 8-4's?
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Oct 14, 2014 14:37
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So in Jeskai Wins mirrors (which is all i seem to be losing to) I really really want Brimaz instead of Rabblemaster but I feel like thats wrong against everything else in the format...
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Oct 14, 2014 14:41
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Toshimo posted:No, but Tarfire did. There's a guy at the club I'm at who runs tarfire in legacy goblins, it turns out running that with Wort, Boggart Auntie is some real nice repeatable removal, esp. against Delver.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:44
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Pyronic posted:8-4's? Yeah. The EV is good enough and the abzan durdlers are bad enough that it's a pretty easy net gain right now, especially compared to the doldrums of Theros 8-4.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:46
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mcmagic posted:So in Jeskai Wins mirrors (which is all i seem to be losing to) I really really want Brimaz instead of Rabblemaster but I feel like thats wrong against everything else in the format... Rabblemaster is a faster clock if unopposed, but Brimaz having 4 toughness is huge. I think the main strike against him though is the double white in the mana cost in a three-color deck that really wants to be able to slam him down on turn 3.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:47
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mcmagic posted:So in Jeskai Wins mirrors (which is all i seem to be losing to) I really really want Brimaz instead of Rabblemaster but I feel like thats wrong against everything else in the format... Try Satyr Firedancer.
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Entropic posted:Rabblemaster is a faster clock if unopposed, but Brimaz having 4 toughness is huge. I think the main strike against him though is the double white in the mana cost in a three-color deck that really wants to be able to slam him down on turn 3. The mana is pretty good. It's just that the 4 toughness is only relevant against decks that don't have hard removal and are killing stuff with lightning strikes/magma jets which is exactly what Jeskai does. Rabblemaster is just the better card but it's horrible against Magma Jet which is a 4 of in Jeskai. suicidesteve posted:Try Satyr Firedancer. Vs the mirror? Why? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Oct 14, 2014 14:51
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mcmagic posted:The mana is pretty good. It's just that the 4 toughness is only relevant against decks that don't have hard removal and are killing stuff with lightning strikes/magma jets which is exactly what Jeskai does. Rabblemaster is just the better card but it's horrible against Magma Jet which is a 4 of in Jeskai. The mana isn't that great that two white is no big deal.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:58
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Sickening posted:The mana isn't that great that two white is no big deal. You're playing 14 white sources. That makes a T3 double white very reasonable. The issue is more that the best card in the mirror is worse vs everything else.
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Oct 14, 2014 15:01
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mcmagic posted:Vs the mirror? Why? Turns all of your player directed burn into creature burn too. Jeskai Charm can suddenly eliminate Mantis Rider, for example. I don't know how well that would work though, I've been mostly sticking to Abzan since I have all the cards to do that.
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Ramos posted:Turns all of your player directed burn into creature burn too. Jeskai Charm can suddenly eliminate Mantis Rider, for example. Yeah i know what it does but it doesn't seem better than Seeker which can be pretty annoying to deal with in the mirror because of prowess...
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Oct 14, 2014 15:06
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mcmagic posted:Yeah i know what it does but it doesn't seem better than Seeker which can be pretty annoying to deal with in the mirror because of prowess... Well, if Jeskai Wins is your biggest problem, it could help you to turn into a full on control deck against it post board, which can help set the pace in your favor
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Oct 14, 2014 15:09
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Ramos posted:Well, if Jeskai Wins is your biggest problem, it could help you to turn into a full on control deck against it post board, which can help set the pace in your favor That's pretty much what i've been doing. I'm already playing two anger main board and I go to 4 after board. I bring in 2 negate, 1-3 strokes and 2 deflecting palm, cutting the Rabblemasters. Suspention Field is something I'm thinking about in the board against the mirror to deal with Brimaz. Ben Stark actually had 3 Brimaz in his SB that I assume he used vs the mirror. Yuuya Watanabe plays 4 Rabblemasters AND 3 Brimaz Mainboard which seems strong. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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mcmagic posted:You're playing 14 white sources. That makes a T3 double white very reasonable. The issue is more that the best card in the mirror is worse vs everything else. 60% really isn't "very reasonable", to be honest. e: It's about the same odds as getting 3 land on turn 3 in your 19 land deck. There's a reason you run more than 19 lands in decks that want to be casting 3 drops reliably. Jabor fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Jabor posted:60% really isn't "very reasonable", to be honest. If you're playing a 2 color deck do you really have much more than 60% sources of one of the colors in a format where you can't fetch for a dual land? I've never really had mana problems playing the deck. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Maybe I've been unlucky or just drafting like poo poo, but KTK drafting just hasn't worked out for me lately. I can find sweet bombs pack 1 and 2 only to never see them and get overrun by the one guy who got four Mystics of the Hidden Way (none of which went past me), or draft an aggressive deck and lose match 1 to the one guy who decided to draft a million walls because all my removal has sublimated to the bottom of the deck somehow. Maybe I just need to reconsider my picks. Any suggestions here? I'm tired of getting 20 minutes of playtime out of my tickets.
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mcmagic posted:If you're playing a 2 color deck do you really have much more than 60% sources of one of the colors in a format where you can't fetch for a dual land? If you're wanting to cast CC spells in both colours early? Absolutely. Last season's UW control, which wanted WW on turn 4 (not turn 3) for Supreme Verdict, was playing 17 white sources. And that's with all the card drawing the deck had to help find those cards on time. GW aggro was playing 16-17 white sources for Ajani and Advent of the Wurm, and everyone knew that was a deck with bad mana. You will lose to not being able to cast your spells with only 14 sources.
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