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This show is hitting all the right notes at all the right times, I haven't seen a show with this general formula (weekly procedural with broader season-wide arc) hit its stride so quickly.
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Oct 15, 2014 03:58
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Don't forget to eat those power bars Barry 
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Oct 15, 2014 04:09
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This is such a great show. Already blowing Gotham out of the water. And I'm thinking Multiplex isn't dead since he's rumored to be in the Suicide Squad movie.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:09
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Liking the show, but cannot stand the "sister" and the things around her: Barry pining for her - blegh Her being a journalist (student) and tracking the Flash - boring and cliche Her smug pretty boy cop boyfriend - annoying
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Oct 15, 2014 04:11
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Mr Beens posted:Liking the show, but cannot stand the "sister" and the things around her: Yeah, every time she's onscreen I just want her off. I guess cringeworthy female love-interests is the thing it gets to have in common with Arrow?
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Oct 15, 2014 04:14
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Daric posted:This is such a great show. Already blowing Gotham out of the water. And I'm thinking Multiplex isn't dead since he's rumored to be in the Suicide Squad movie. Multiplex being dead in the DC TV universe has no effect on his appearance in the SS movie, because they're completely separate.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:14
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Arrgytehpirate posted:That ending... I'm stunned I suspected it when I watched the pilot, but after that I'm 99.9% certain that Wells is Professor Zoom
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Oct 15, 2014 04:16
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Mr Beens posted:Liking the show, but cannot stand the "sister" and the things around her: Well in the comics Iris was a reporter I am pretty sure so can't really blame him for that. --------------------- Pretty sure Multiplex can come back. He has the ability to grow organs and bones. If he can clone himself he probably can use that for some sort of self regenerative purpose. Not sure if he can in the comics but the origins here make it make sense. Also, was anyone else instantly afraid when Barry had the "you're not my dad" freakout that they were going to kill off Detective West before they made up? Barry so far has such a Peter Parker vibe the second he said those words I freaked out they were going to Uncle Ben him. VBane fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 04:21
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Iris represents the price we pay for having the show on CW. Luckily it's maybe 10% of the show and easily dismissed.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:24
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Well she's also from the source material.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:25
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I think the "we were all struck by that lightning" speech was pretty cringe worthy but it was a great episode for sure.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:34
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Dr. Wells is the best, that ending goddamn. I like all the little knowing smirks, like when Barry says they were all struck by lightning. I really hope they don't drag out the secrets crap with Iris, that poo poo got really tiresome really quick in Arrow. Aside from that, I'm already in love with this show. Why can't next week be here already.  CW, you have come far. 
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Oct 15, 2014 04:35
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I think the show runners obviously have learned lessons from Arrow, like seriously most show's would have strung out the Barry and his "not" dad fighting etc.. this one just was like " Nope, nope, nope, nope" I just hope they've taken a bunch away from the show, also I like that Iris isn't like in love with some rear end in a top hat he's actually a decent guy. It's just really good to show that ending where it's like " No I saw some crazy poo poo, gonna believe you and help you catch the real killer" is loving awesome, I hated that drawn out poo poo they'd do. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 04:47
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Timett posted:I think the "we were all struck by that lightning" speech was pretty cringe worthy but it was a great episode for sure. I hope it isn't asking too much for them to soon address that Barry is a cornball sentimentalist that sometimes makes those around him roll their eyes. They are already building him up as an alternative to Super Cool Badass AntiHero. I don't hate his personality, I think it works, but I think it would go a long way to taking this show seriously to reveal that a lot of the corniness is inherent in Barry and are not just the writers being terrible.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:58
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Marathoned through Arrow when I heard about this show because I thought they might be closely tied together (and had heard good things about Arrow). I've enjoyed it but am liking this better so far. I tend to prefer more supernatural/less grounded stories in general though.Jose Oquendo posted:I suspected it when I watched the pilot, but after that I'm 99.9% certain that Wells is Professor Zoom I would be very surprised if that wasn't the case and that person wasn't the cause of his mother's death. That character is so cool and I look forward to seeing where the plot goes.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:13
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VBane posted:Well in the comics Iris was a reporter I am pretty sure so can't really blame him for that. So? I don't read the comics, but a quick skim of the top of the wikipedia page says that in the comics she is his fiancee and her dad is a university professor, so they can change things. The cliche of "someone close to me is activly trying to hunt down my alter ego" is just a tired and boring cliche. They just got over doing it on Arrow and that storyline was annoying there too.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:14
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You really should just get over it.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:17
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Oh man, This show is so fun. I was stoked when professor X actually got up out the wheelchair and stabbed the dude. I was like, whaaaat?!? That's going to be some plot twist poo poo when Barry finds out he's killing people for the 'greater good'. Even the scientist buddies are growing on me - they seem a lot more restrained in this episode, which was good. Amusing, but not stupid. And the scenes with his dads were touching  and thankfully only pointlessly sappy for like 10% of the total time. Jail Dad was doing some tough love in there on Barry.
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Oct 15, 2014 05:46
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What Barry really needs to sustain his energy is a nice, big bowl of Booster Gold Flakes cereal. For the real hero in you!
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Oct 15, 2014 05:58
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I loved that Barry just skipped the intro and dove into the episode. The three empty doughnut boxes and the pile of plates were great and I hope they keep doing that. The flashbacks felt like they were trying to keep Arrow's formula, but without the structure that Arrow's flashbacks have, I think these flashbacks might intrude too much. Tom Cavanaugh continues to be awesome. The stinger this week was fantastic.
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Oct 15, 2014 06:13
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Caitlin Snow is a huge bitch and I love it  Keep on being smug as gently caress and murdering people Professor Bubble Beard.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:23
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As a fan of Tom Cavanaugh's podcast Tom and Mike Eat Snacks (in which they eat snacks and rate them), I hope one day they devote an episode to which snack would be best suited for the Flash.
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Oct 15, 2014 08:11
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Just caught the second episode. That was a hell of a follow up to the pilot. Gat dam  This show is loving awesome.
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Oct 15, 2014 08:15
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That was great, with some caveats. Digging the voiceover introduction, digging the boldness to just be straight up superheroics (If I can save people from a burning building, I'm going to do that!), digging Grant Gustin's performance most of all. Particularly like the choice to make the second episode all about defining Barry's limits - neatly raising the stakes. But the show's handling of female characters is... problematic? Not bad. But in a five minute span we went from Iris nagging Barry for his secrets and then Caitlin nagging Barry for his... secrets. Oh, and there's a dead mother to throw into that mix, too. Arrow course-corrected rather nicely with a strong and able set of female characters, so I'm not worried.
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Oct 15, 2014 09:12
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Regarding future villain speculation: Did I hallucinate the part where they straight up named Iris' boyfriend as Eddie Thawne, AKA Eobard Thawne, aka Professor loving Zoom? Unless they have the balls to have past and future Thawne coinciding, Wells can't be him, can he? Did I miss something?
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Oct 15, 2014 09:20
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Narcissus1916 posted:That was great, with some caveats. Digging the voiceover introduction, digging the boldness to just be straight up superheroics (If I can save people from a burning building, I'm going to do that!), digging Grant Gustin's performance most of all. Hopefully Caitlin will be less frosty when her boyfriend finally reappears fused to a scientist. With Stagg dead though, I guess we wont be seeing Metamorpho any time soon.
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Oct 15, 2014 09:20
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I have to admit to being a little...concerned? Curious? Clutched?...about how they're gonna handle the female characters down the line. Unlike Green Arrow, the Flash comics have never been loaded with female heroes or villains. Caitlin herself was never part of the Flash mythos, but was transplanted from elsewhere. And we've heard a lot about a lot of dude metahumans coming up on in the series, and not a single lady as far as I know. Something I liked a lot was how they really alluded to Barry being the forerunner ( ) of a new age of humans, sort of like the first of his kind that changes the game forever. It really sets up Flash pretty much being the Superman of this universe, the first real superhero that gets the ball rolling, right alongside Arrow who's the Batman analogue.All they need is a Wonder Woman expy in their other CW show in development, but, meh, I can't really think of any characters that would fit the bill. Crunk Abortion posted:Regarding future villain speculation: Josh Lyman posted:Why are people saying time travel has been confirmed?
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Oct 15, 2014 09:34
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BrianWilly posted:I have to admit to being a little...concerned? Curious? Clutched?...about how they're gonna handle the female characters down the line. Unlike Green Arrow, the Flash comics have never been loaded with female heroes or villains. Caitlin herself was never part of the Flash mythos, but was transplanted from elsewhere. And we've heard a lot about a lot of dude metahumans coming up on in the series, and not a single lady as far as I know. If Iris' boyfriend ends up half the character that Tommy was, this show is gonna rule.
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Oct 15, 2014 09:36
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Josh Lyman posted:Why are people saying time travel has been confirmed? Please watch all of the episodes, including the stingers at the end.
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Oct 15, 2014 09:46
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Non-Flash fact: a character dramatically looking over newspapers from the future was how I expected time travel to be confirmed even before I saw the pilot. Granted, I didn't expect Wells.
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Oct 15, 2014 09:58
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This show is so god drat good. I don't even mind the Iris third-wheel parts because the rest of the show is so much fun. They've absolutely nailed it in these first two episodes and the show is knocking the nervous hero angle out of the loving park. Grant Gustin's Flash is a better Peter Parker than any of the movie versions. He's believably dorky without coming off as a doofus that I want to give a wedgie to which is a credit to both his portrayal and the writers' characterization of Barry early on. This show is just doing so many things right that I'm watching most of the episode with a big dumb grin on my face even though I haven't even read the comics and am probably missing a bunch of stuff that people are getting excited about. But it doesn't matter because I love the tone of the show, I love the Wells/West dual mentorship, I love the Star Lab support squad, I love actually watching Flash run around, and I love the stingers at the end and how confident the showrunners are in their vision for where they want the show to go. It's still a month and a half away and I'm already at Tumblr Fanfic levels of excitement about the crossover episodes with Arrow. Can not loving wait.
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Oct 15, 2014 11:24
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BrianWilly posted:Something I liked a lot was how they really alluded to Barry being the forerunner ( Thematically, Flash does fit the bill as well as Superman when it comes to the success of the superhero genre. Yes, Supes started the Golden Age and the entire trend, but the Flash is what brought about the Silver Age, which is honestly far more influential in terms of the tone and conventions that were set. So having him be the flagpole for bring (DC) superheroes to the small screen in full form is fitting (and alliterative). But yeah, the big thing for the episode seemed to be defining Barry's limits, both for powers and in general. Its a good episode - and reference guide for writers - on what the guy can and can't do, especially essential given the powers at play here. Think my favourite moments though are the family bits, with Barry talking to both Dads. I dunno, I'm sappy for that kind of thing. Also holy poo poo Stagg dead already? I'd expected him to stick around as some kind of background villain given his involvement in Metamorpho's origins, but... drat.
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BrianWilly posted:I have to admit to being a little...concerned? Curious? Clutched?...about how they're gonna handle the female characters down the line. Unlike Green Arrow, the Flash comics have never been loaded with female heroes or villains. Caitlin herself was never part of the Flash mythos, but was transplanted from elsewhere. And we've heard a lot about a lot of dude metahumans coming up on in the series, and not a single lady as far as I know. The only character that does fit among Green Arrow and the Flash is Green Lantern as part of a second tier, Silver Age Trinity. However, for female heroes, there's a very large dearth of classic ones. Especially independent or well known ones that aren't Wonder Woman. Ostensibly, they could try and use characters from properties that DC picked up like from Gen13 or maybe characters from Milestone For female Flash villains, there's the sister of Captain Cold, known as Glider or Golden Glider and Magenta who has magnetic powers and is otherwise without note.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:03
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They're not naming him Thawne just to be a supporting cop character. On Arrow it's not like it ended up being Ollie's father.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:34
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I like this show but if Barry is going to have a love interest they seriously need to make it not his sister. You were raised in that house since you were eight. That's your sister. Don't make the protagonist of the show a dude who creeps on his sister.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:36
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That's how it's going to be for this show. Better get used to it man.
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Oct 15, 2014 13:51
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But why? Why couldn't she just be his childhood friend? What demographic are they putting a checkmark down for by making them brother and sister?
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greatn posted:But why? Why couldn't she just be his childhood friend? What demographic are they putting a checkmark down for by making them brother and sister? Uh, like 99% of the CW's target demo? Google some Supernatural shipper poo poo on Tumblr and tell me CW fans don't have a boner for incest.
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