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sudont posted:We flew with Ciaran at 9 months and looking back I am SO glad we went when we did because a month later and it would've been a big ol' mess. He wasn't all that mobile, and was more than happy to just bask in the undivided attention he got from my partner and I, and to nurse frequently. He slept through most of the flights. That's your choice of course, but we've found people are mostly nice when babies are social, it's if they're criers that people get snarky. No-one's going to give you hard time if your toddler is peering around the plane going 'hi! Hi!'
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Flew with my kid at 9 months, it went great. Now at pushing 16 months that ain't gonna happen unless it is necessary. He's way not into being confined/restrained/held for any period of time. He would protest loudly the times he had to be strapped into his seat.
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Yeah, sounds like sheri's dude (who is like a day older or younger than mine) is of similar temperament right now when it comes to being confined/restrained/held too. It's a struggle! NO, all done, and downnnnnnn are his 3 favorite words. People probably don't care, but I always feel a bit bad when there's like, a couple trying to have a nice dinner and my son is like HI GUYS WHAT'S UP, DO YOU WANT A PIECE OF MY BREAD? HOW ABOUT THIS DINOSAUR? CAN I BLOW YOU KISSES? THIS IS MY MAMA. MAMA. MAMA. MAMA. HAT. HAT. MOOOOOOOOOOON. *GORILLA IMPRESSION*
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Re flights: Kalenn Istarion had some good advice, thought I'd add my own (2 international flights at 10 mo and 2 yrs, several domestic) though I've only had relevant experience up to the 2 yr. old. - if you have a smaller, lightweight carseat like this Costco one I highly suggest taking it ON THE PLANE with you. The ability to ratchet a squirmy toddler down so they can't run away can be invaluable. We luck out and our little one will actually (eventually) sleep in her car seat on an overnight flight. - yes, lots of snacks. I really like those pouches of pureed fruit for takeoff and landing if their ears start hurting. Just be sure to put them in their own ziploc to get through security (I've taken several in a gallon sized bag without a problem, security will do a lot for you if you're with kids) - If your kids happen to get carsick like mine,  bibs and/or towels or light/small blankets to cover clothes/seat during problem times can help. Also, a change of clothes...or two...for everyone including you in a carry-on. sigh.- if your connecting flight is delayed and your kids start running amok in the airport  or look for/ask if they have a play area.
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Flight chat: The FAA requires carriers to seat children with at least one parent. If seating wasn't available when you booked online, the airline gets to move people around. Also, bring something for the kids to chew it eat during the descent. They don't always figure out how to "pop" their ears, and chewing does this naturally.
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I flew with my daughter alone for the first time back in May when she was 15 months old. It actually went very smoothly because she slept on both flights but I am flying with her again I'll loan from North Carolina to Ohio with a layover on both flights for Christmas when she will be 23 months. She's already very different than she was at 15 months so I can't imagine how easy it's going to be to get her to sit still and not fuss on two different planes each way. However I will agree that snacks are key. Our flights ended up getting delayed in May so I had an entire box of teddy grams that I ended up just giving her to help ease the stress of being in three different airports over a 12 hour time frame. It's funny though now her favorite word is "Ya" and I don't really get a lot of "no". "do you want to wash her hands?" "Ya!" I get the feeling that this isn't going to last too much longer is it?
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Birthdays - for the first three years we did cheap birthday parties at home or just did family dinners. Now that my son is older (he'll be 4 in a month) he understands the concept of birthdays, so he has been talking about his non-stop. His birthday is Thanksgiving and his younger sister is New Year's Eve, so we are throwing them a combo party in the middle to keep things inexpensive and easier to manage during the holidays. We have some friends from playdate groups, but I don't expect to have more than a dozen kids there, and we're having it at a kids' gym place they both love. We keep things pretty laid-back and simple in our house, so not too many gifts and not too much fuss. It's worked, so far!
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Volmarias posted:You're in for a treat Yea, that didn't last long. Today was full of "no". "Are you hungry?" - No "Do you want to take a bath"? - No "Do you want to watch the puppy movie?" (This is always a yes)- No "Is daddy funny?" - No "Do you want your ball ?" - No "Do you want to go to bed?"- Cue a 30 minute battle on bed time, with her crying every time I put her in her crib, which is the first time this had happened in weeks. I need to stop asking "do you want" and just give her options it sounds like.
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Kids don't deal well with open ended questions, and you need to be careful to avoid giving apparent options where one of the options straight up wouldn't be acceptable. I usually try to phrase bed as inevitable but leave choice about how we get there. "It's bedtime, which book would you like to read after your bath?" Similarly with food, for example, if I said "what veggie might you want?" I'm a lot more likely to get something we don't have or "I don't want veggies" than if I say "It's time for dinner, would you like peas or carrots?". At the science centre, it's not "are you ready to leave, it's "we're leaving in 5 minutes, so you have time to either play with the water gun or do the ball maze (both near the exit), which would you prefer?" My guy is old enough and wilful enough that every once in a while he will still try to get something that isn't on the list but it has significantly reduced the "no" drama for us.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Kids don't deal well with open ended questions, and you need to be careful to avoid giving apparent options where one of the options straight up wouldn't be acceptable. That's pretty helpful. I'll try to remember that going forward. She's only 22 months, so we're still learning (both of us).
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Sorry to take a break from airplane chat, but a question popped into my head and I got curious! When would you guys say is the age when kids are old enough to start vocalizing earnest opinions? Mine are two years old so inevitably the answer to everything is a "no," but I assume one day they will be saying things like "I want to go to the zoo!" or "I want to see a movie!" When can I expect that sort of thing to start happening?
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My guy turns two this month and he regularly tells me "daddy, park". If we don't go to the park he goes down a lost of other places that are more fun than whatever we're doing. It's not always sentences but he gets his point across. He also says "no more phone daddy. Pocket!" so I gotta go play with him right now.
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At what age would you allow your child to go next door (directly next door, not across the street or anything) to see if the kid next door (of the same age) wanted to play - either at their house or yours. For the purposes of this example, let's say you're more of a granola-eating, free-rangey kind of parent, not the Amber Alert, helicoptery kind.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Sorry to take a break from airplane chat, but a question popped into my head and I got curious! When would you guys say is the age when kids are old enough to start vocalizing earnest opinions? Mine are two years old so inevitably the answer to everything is a "no," but I assume one day they will be saying things like "I want to go to the zoo!" or "I want to see a movie!" When can I expect that sort of thing to start happening? My son started having coherent preferences around 2ish that he could vocalize in a relatively clear way. Before that he had preferences but we often had to try to guess.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Sorry to take a break from airplane chat, but a question popped into my head and I got curious! When would you guys say is the age when kids are old enough to start vocalizing earnest opinions? Mine are two years old so inevitably the answer to everything is a "no," but I assume one day they will be saying things like "I want to go to the zoo!" or "I want to see a movie!" When can I expect that sort of thing to start happening? Alexandra does this already, and she is two. It probably just depends on when they get the vocabulary to express what they want. photomikey posted:At what age would you allow your child to go next door (directly next door, not across the street or anything) to see if the kid next door (of the same age) wanted to play - either at their house or yours. For the purposes of this example, let's say you're more of a granola-eating, free-rangey kind of parent, not the Amber Alert, helicoptery kind. I did that when I was probably 4 or 5, but apparently you can't let your child out of sight until they're at least 8 unless you want to be afraid of getting arrested nowadays. The "think of the children" crowd has ruined childhood for the children.
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photomikey posted:At what age would you allow your child to go next door (directly next door, not across the street or anything) to see if the kid next door (of the same age) wanted to play - either at their house or yours. For the purposes of this example, let's say you're more of a granola-eating, free-rangey kind of parent, not the Amber Alert, helicoptery kind. When I was confident he wouldn't wander and at least knew how to look for cars to cross the street.
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photomikey posted:At what age would you allow your child to go next door (directly next door, not across the street or anything) to see if the kid next door (of the same age) wanted to play - either at their house or yours. For the purposes of this example, let's say you're more of a granola-eating, free-rangey kind of parent, not the Amber Alert, helicoptery kind. My 6 y.o. and the 6 y.o. girl across the street have been running back and forth to each other for two years now. Stop, look both ways, then go straight to the door. I can see him the whole time. So, if you know your neighbor is home, and you're friends with them, I'd say 4 or so.
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Yeah, my oldest started playing with the neighbors kids directly across our street at about 4. We went with her the first few times to show her how we stop at the edge of the street, look both ways, and then cross when it's safe. Then we watched her from the porch for a while, but that stopped somewhere around 5 or so. By the time my oldest was 7 and the youngest was 4 they were going out together unsupervised with the understanding that they stay together and the little one follows her big sister's lead. We also have the advantage that we live on a dead-end street with basically no traffic (only neighbors driving home) and all the neighbors are like-minded in letting kids be kids- there's a lot of kids in the neighborhood and they all play outside together a bunch. It's pretty awesome.
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I started letting my daughter do that this summer since it was nice and lots of kids were playing. She's 5. She goes a little further now but we live in a development that's pretty quiet cars wise, has a lot of off the street walking areas and she can ride a bike
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Hello parents, I am not a parent, but during christmas I will be spending a bit of time alone with my niece - she'll be staying at my house for a day and then we're flying out to California together so I can escort her out to see her dad. She's 4, and I'm not entirely sure what I need to do to prepare my house for a kiddo, as well as keep her occupied on a long flight. I mean I know there's obvious stuff like lock down all the cleaning supplies, but at 4 she should know better than to shove forks into electrical outlets right? Do I need to get covers for those? What other things should I keep in mine while trying to make my place more kid friendly - do I need to get locks on cabinets too? What can I do to keep her occupied on the plane? I'll be loading up the bag with coloring books and putting some cartoons on my tablet, but what are some "oh poo poo she's getting bored and whiny HEY LOOKIT THIS!" things I can throw in that she'll be happy to play with? I'm really nervous about being in charge of a tiny human for awhile, but I also want her to have a super fun time with her cool aunt and ask to come over to my place all the time because i'm so fuckin fun she can't stand it.
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Women's Rights? posted:I'm really nervous about being in charge of a tiny human for awhile, but I also want her to have a super fun time with her cool aunt and ask to come over to my place all the time because i'm so fuckin fun she can't stand it. We've had my husbands little brother (his dad is on his third round of kids now, there's a 20-something age gap between them) over a few times and we've taken him for various outings. Since you're going to be in charge of this kid for a day or so, make sure it's not all sugary snacks and ALL FUN ALL THE TIME, because that's going to bite you in the rear end when you've suddenly got a not properly fed and completely worn out little kid on your hands. Proper food first, then you can spoil her with sweets, and give her time to wind down and chill out inbetween all the fun  And depending on her temperament and previous away-from-home-experiences, be prepared for some tears - our tiny houseguest still has a little cry every time he spends the night with us, simply because around bedtime he suddenly realises that he misses his mum and dad. But he's old enough that we can talk about it, that it's ok to have fun where you're at while still feeling a little sad that mum and dad isn't there. He likes to bring printed pictures of his parents to look at before bedtime, and if he misses them during the day. I'd suggest talking to her parents about how she's dealt with being away from them before, and maybe putting together a little parent care package with pictures or a little letter from them or whatever they think she'll like if she suddenly has an attack of the feels.Good luck, I'm sure you'll have tons of fun! Borrowed kids are awesome!
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Jasper's shown food preferences since he was about 20 months. He's about 23 months now and he sure does let us know what he wants to eat and if we're giving him something he doesn't want to eat and wants something else. At least his food choices are decent. I think if it was up to him he'd be eating eggs, hummus, cheese, flour tortillas, raisins, and applesauce.
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In my experience, the best way to figure out what needs to be baby-proofed in your house is to invite over some friends who have a kid around a similar age and let the kid run wild around the house (keeping an eye on them). Kids are extraordinarily good at finding weaknesses.
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My kid learned to open doors today! Yaaaay! Luckily we've had every door in the house except for his bedroom, and the inside of any room, childproofed for months, so once he figured out doors he wouldn't see us changing other doors to block him and resent it. To him every other door has always had these weird things on the knobs. I have a question. He's 16 months now, and he's driving me a little crazy at dinner. He flips over his plate every night after a few minutes and starts wildly flinging his hands all over his tray, throwing food everywhere, and then drops them one by one onto the ground. He apparently doesn't do anything like this at daycare, he sits at the table there like a gentlemen and eats what he wants and leaves the rest alone. We've tried to not give him any attention for it, but he's amusing himself so much knocking his food around he doesn't care if we give him attention or not.
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When ours was at that point and doing it, we would have to put one serving at a time on his plate.
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photomikey posted:At what age would you allow your child to go next door (directly next door, not across the street or anything) to see if the kid next door (of the same age) wanted to play - either at their house or yours. For the purposes of this example, let's say you're more of a granola-eating, free-rangey kind of parent, not the Amber Alert, helicoptery kind. We used to live in an 8 story tower block in the city, right next to a nice city park, and while I told my then 6-year-old to go ahead and try it, he never managed to actually get past the various dogooders and busybodies in the elevators or managers office, or across the street without somebody intercepting him. We moved out to the burbs, and lucked into a 10 year old girl down the way who was running a neighborhood gang. She would come by, collect the 7 and 4 year old, and do whatever 8 kids between the ages of 4 and 11 do pretty much every day after homework. Their range wasn't crazy-long, one or two blocks worth of houses/kids, but their supervision was pretty nonexistant. "Home by dark" in the summer. Unless something cool was happening after dark, then "home in an hour, check your watch". Now, at 10 and 7, they are allowed anywhere they have people, but tends to be within 3-4 blocks, just because that is the people they know from the bus stop. However, new school policy, kids must be met at the bus stop untill they are 10 goddamn years old, or the bus driver will drive their asses back to school and call you to pick them up. My 10 year old can walk the 7 year old around the corner to our house this year, but next year he'll be on a different schedule, and I'll have to be standing on the corner for two years to make sure my kid can walk 300 feet. Basically "gently caress you, working parents, if you want to be in this school district, you should have married more money" policy.
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Slo-Tek posted:However, new school policy, kids must be met at the bus stop untill they are 10 goddamn years old, or the bus driver will drive their asses back to school and call you to pick them up. My 10 year old can walk the 7 year old around the corner to our house this year, but next year he'll be on a different schedule, and I'll have to be standing on the corner for two years to make sure my kid can walk 300 feet. Our daycare (before my daughter went to preschool) was open from some absurdly early hour (that I never arrived) until 5pm, and they closed at 5pm SHARP. They observed a bunch of holidays and had a week off in the summer for "summer vacation" and a week off in the fall for "daycare maintenance", then they took a week off at Christmas and a week of spring break. Outside of the absurd amount of days off they took, I otherwise liked the daycare, and they would send me folks who were asking for a reference. My recommendation was always the same - it's the perfect daycare, if you don't have a real job. I mean, I don't know who can leave work at 4:30 at the absolute latest, every day of the year - plus arrange for alternate childcare (WHILE PAYING FOR CHILDCARE) FOUR WEEKS a year. Like I say, it worked out okay for me, I'm home anyway - I just worked at night. But what does everybody else do? Ugh. This is war on the middle class poo poo.
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Mines the same way, but 5:30 sharp. I work from 6-3 anyway, so that isn't a problem. They do have just tons of holidays though, luckily my wife is a professor and usually has the sane holidays.
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Axiem posted:In my experience, the best way to figure out what needs to be baby-proofed in your house is to invite over some friends who have a kid around a similar age and let the kid run wild around the house (keeping an eye on them). Kids are extraordinarily good at finding weaknesses. This is called The Canary Method™.
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Slo-Tek posted:
This is begging for a communal neighborhood bus collection racket. Get all the neighborhood parents together, have everyone write each others' names on the form as authorized bus-removers, and then just cycle through who has "bus duty" on a daily or weekly basis. At one point, we had 7 people authorized to meet my son's bus when he was in the special ed early childhood program: Mom, dad, 2 grandparents, a great aunt, a neighbor, and a friend of mine. It was way easier to just have tons of people who could collect him than it would have been to deal with the craziness involved once you miss pickup because you got caught in traffic on your way home from a doctor's appointment or whatever (which in our district's case, involves child protective services and the police).
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greatn posted:I have a question. He's 16 months now, and he's driving me a little crazy at dinner. He flips over his plate every night after a few minutes and starts wildly flinging his hands all over his tray, throwing food everywhere, and then drops them one by one onto the ground. He apparently doesn't do anything like this at daycare, he sits at the table there like a gentlemen and eats what he wants and leaves the rest alone. We've tried to not give him any attention for it, but he's amusing himself so much knocking his food around he doesn't care if we give him attention or not. My kids each did that around the same age, and we always repeat the same things to all of them: "drinks are for drinking and putting down. Don't chew on the straw." "forks are for eating with. Use it and put it down, don't touch anyone with it, or their plates, or use it to make music" "food stays on the plate or in your mouth. You drop/throw food or spit it out, you're done." It sounds harsh, but when everyone else behaves at the table and there are consequences to ignoring the rules, they get it. My middle kid was all about flipping her plate or dropping food to the ground or spitting stuff out, and after a few times of being pushed away from the table or denied dessert, she wised up. I just hope it all sticks, as we are moving her out of her booster seat and into a big kid's chair to free up the high chair for our littlest one. And of course we heap lots of praise and "I'm so proud of you!" when they follow the rules. And they get dessert if they are especially awesome.
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Slo-Tek posted:We used to live in an 8 story tower block in the city, right next to a nice city park, and while I told my then 6-year-old to go ahead and try it, he never managed to actually get past the various dogooders and busybodies in the elevators or managers office, or across the street without somebody intercepting him. This really really weirds me out as a millenial. When I was 6 (1993) I had a key to our house and came home to an empty house every day because both of my parents worked. We were lower middle class and there's no other way life could have really functioned for us. Now child abductions and kidnappings are down substantially and continue to decrease every year thanks to how easy it is to track down kids. Most abductions are by family members anyway. Stranger abductions are next to nil. So why the heck is it so crazy to allow kids independence? My city has a fantastic bus system and as I get closer to considering having a child, one of the important things i've really spent time thinking about was how to make sure my child will feel independent. Part of that idea was going to be to teach them to use the bus system as early as possible and when I feel they are responsible enough - to allow them to go places on the bus on their own. However, there's been stories about parents being visited by CPS just for letting their kids play in a park across the street at age 8 unsupervised. It is positively insane. How can a child ever feel independent and learn how to be theirselves with a parent constantly hovering over them? I honestly don't get it. I've seen people attribute this attitude to leftists but i'm a socialist and it makes no sense to me.
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It's not quite that bad in Australia. I got some sideways looks letting my daughter walk home (a few blocks) at 9/10, but I was able to ignore it without fear of DOCS (CPS equivalent). When I was 10 years old kids were riding bikes around town all day. As long as we were home by dark it was all good. And we didn't have mobile phones!
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Tigntink posted:This really really weirds me out as a millenial. When I was 6 (1993) I had a key to our house and came home to an empty house every day because both of my parents worked. We were lower middle class and there's no other way life could have really functioned for us. Now child abductions and kidnappings are down substantially and continue to decrease every year thanks to how easy it is to track down kids. Most abductions are by family members anyway. Stranger abductions are next to nil. So why the heck is it so crazy to allow kids independence? There are a number of studies on the range of children across various generations. This is a crappy british broadsheet, but same thing in the us. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-462091/How-children-lost-right-roam-generations.html I grew up slightly generation-shifted, with a 50's vintage range in the 80's. I was allowed to ride my bike 24 miles round trip to the next town over because it had a comic book shop (on farm roads, wasn't supposed to ride on the side of the main road, though it isn't like anybody was checking up on me) but that was unusual. There were a couple other kids who were allowed to go with me, and a whole bunch who weren't. Definitely thought nothing of riding across town at age 8 to go visiting. Even knowing that I was allowed to do that when I was 10, I would feel a little twitchy about letting my 10 year old kid do that. AND he has never asked. Think he has never asked because so much of his social interaction can be accomplished in two blocks. When I was coming up, it was a mile to the nearest agemates, and closer to 3 to my best friends. That, and there are just a ton more inside options, both social and passive now. There was literally nothing on TV I wanted to watch as a kid, because there were 11 channels, and they all sucked except for like 2 hours at 6 in the morning on saturday when they ran Star Blazers on UHF 47, or whichever. You also couldn't dawdle on the phone because long distance cost, and there was only one line and dad probably wanted to use it to log in to Compuserve. However, part of the reason we settled here was that there are pre-car-age groups of children out and about in public. I feel like by middle school, his social circle and interests will have expanded to the point where he wants/needs more range. For one thing, he isn't going to be alone with girls or weed in my house, so he'll have to go visiting.
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Slo-Tek posted:Basically "gently caress you, working parents, if you want to be in this school district, you should have married more money" policy.
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Anyone have good suggestions on introducing a toddler to new family members that won't freak them out? My daughter will be 22 months when she meets my brother for the first time ever next month, and she's only facetimed with him a few times. He's in the military so it's not like he has a chance to visit a lot, but he is also being deployed to the Middle East, so we won't see him for a year. He wants to "bond" with her, but I don't see that happening right away, and I want him to be able to spend time with her without her screaming for daddy.
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momtartin posted:Anyone have good suggestions on introducing a toddler to new family members that won't freak them out? My daughter will be 22 months when she meets my brother for the first time ever next month, and she's only facetimed with him a few times. He's in the military so it's not like he has a chance to visit a lot, but he is also being deployed to the Middle East, so we won't see him for a year. He wants to "bond" with her, but I don't see that happening right away, and I want him to be able to spend time with her without her screaming for daddy. Will her Dad not be there? My son is the exact same age as your daughter, and he is pretty shy when he meets new people, but once he gets used to their presence he's fine. I think you should let your brother know that she's just a little toddler, and that he shouldn't expect her to automatically 'bond' with him after one visit just because he's her uncle. If he just acts naturally I'm sure she'll love him, but he shouldn't be crushed or anything if she's a little shy at first.
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What I notice with our just turned 2 year old is when his auntie comes over and just hangs out he does better than when she screams excitedly and tries to hug him right away. He warms up to visitors if they don't overwhelm him right at first. Of course presents always help too. Maybe a book they can sit and read together. He calls his toys things like "uncle Dave train". Depending week got it for him.
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My wife's parents live out of the country, so my daughter's experience with them is largely over FaceTime; she has similar with my sister, who lives in another city. Largely what we've had to deal with is some confusion over it being a "real" person that is the same person she saw in the FaceTime, but she got over it pretty quickly. But then again, our daughter (who is a little over 2) is a total extravert and enjoys spending time with people. I second the "act natural". If you're comfortable around someone, especially if they're in your house, your children will learn to be comfortable. As for "bonding", that happens over time and interaction; he won't get that with a 2-year-old particularly quickly, most likely. The best y'all can do is just be friendly and family-ly.
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Oct 19, 2014 05:17
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