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Tweek-
Jul 13, 2014

Boatswain posted:

Which other gaming podcasts is most like Idle Thumbs (& also recorded in a studio with decent audio quality)? I'm looking to add something to my rotation, but it usually takes so long to get into another podcast so I want to make sure I get it right.

e: Any bets on how long it'll be before the Idle Thumbs-Twin Peaks podcast is abandoned? I say they'll make it through the first four-five episodes before scheduled podcasting breaks down, then we'll have an intermittent decline as the Firewatch release creeps closer.


:confused:

If you are just talking about the sound, CAG cast, 8-4 play, gamers with jobs and pc gamer are all very good and have decent audio quality.

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SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki



BARONS :argh:

Pasco
Oct 2, 2010

Boatswain posted:

Which other gaming podcasts is most like Idle Thumbs?
Well I find The Crate and Crowbar to be simil-

Boatswain posted:

(& also recorded in a studio with decent audio quality)?
Oh. In that case, nevermind I guess.

Snoring
Oct 21, 2008

Boatswain posted:

Which other gaming podcasts is most like Idle Thumbs (& also recorded in a studio with decent audio quality)? I'm looking to add something to my rotation, but it usually takes so long to get into another podcast so I want to make sure I get it right.
If you haven't tried Video Games Hot Dog, you might want to give that a shot. The audio quality is good and the discussion is always pretty interesting (to me, at least).

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
I wish the Twin Peaks cast was more of a structured beat by beat rundown like some of the bad movie podcasts are (and WOFF too, to some extent), there are so many different moments in the show that merit discussion that could be lost just because they didn't immediately jump out as a weird or cool thing that happened.

ja2ke
Feb 19, 2004

Al! posted:

I wish the Twin Peaks cast was more of a structured beat by beat rundown like some of the bad movie podcasts are (and WOFF too, to some extent), there are so many different moments in the show that merit discussion that could be lost just because they didn't immediately jump out as a weird or cool thing that happened.

That's good feedback. We knew in the process of recording that we were bouncing around a lot, and intend to follow lines of thought (and plot) more consistently in future eps.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012
Thanks, I'll check them out.

&& I'd love to listen to Tom Francis (who clearly is the Mathew Goode of video game developers) and others but Skype and other VoIP podcasts lack so much in chemistry and debate compared to some people sitting together in a room. Poor quality also makes it difficult to engage with the people speaking, thus the lack of enthusiasm for the podcast itself.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

ja2ke posted:

That's good feedback. We knew in the process of recording that we were bouncing around a lot, and intend to follow lines of thought (and plot) more consistently in future eps.

Otherwise I'm pretty excited about the show and an excuse to watch Twin Peaks a second time. It's weird to know that I'm not the only person who's fixated on that traffic light. When I think of the show visually the first thing that comes to mind is that loving traffic light.

XenoCrab
Mar 30, 2012

XenoCrab is the least important character in the Alien movie franchise. He's not even in the top ten characters.
I thought that last episode of Crate & Crowbar sounded better than usual. Maybe I just wasn't paying very close attention or (more likely) maybe it was because Tom Francis was back on the show. It really is a lot less interesting without him.

I will also nth the recommendations for Video Games Hot Dog, though I suspect that some people won't be able to deal with all of the host's quirks.

Edit: I hope someone one Thumbs or VGHD or C&C (re)plays TRON 2.0 now that it's on Steam.

XenoCrab fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Oct 15, 2014

mortisXL
Jan 23, 2004
$297? More like $287!! LOL!

ja2ke posted:

That's good feedback. We knew in the process of recording that we were bouncing around a lot, and intend to follow lines of thought (and plot) more consistently in future eps.

Twin Peaks feedback! I'd make the "Here Be Spoilers" break audio piece longer (5-10 seconds?) so people have enough time to scramble and pause/stop the podcast if they are busy doing some task (I like to fold clothes while listening to podcasts for example). I've already seen TP and am on board for spoilers, but it might help others. There was the period of emotionally overcoming the spoiler barrier this week, but maybe for the future!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

MrMortisland posted:

Twin Peaks feedback! I'd make the "Here Be Spoilers" break audio piece longer (5-10 seconds?) so people have enough time to scramble and pause/stop the podcast if they are busy doing some task (I like to fold clothes while listening to podcasts for example). I've already seen TP and am on board for spoilers, but it might help others. There was the period of emotionally overcoming the spoiler barrier this week, but maybe for the future!

From the way every podcaster hems and haws about spoiling something I imagine they receive nightmarish amount of hatemail for spoiling anything to any degree always

ja2ke
Feb 19, 2004

Al! posted:

From the way every podcaster hems and haws about spoiling something I imagine they receive nightmarish amount of hatemail for spoiling anything to any degree always

I ripped off that band aid by just naming Laura's killer like 2 minutes into the spoiler section of the first episode. It'll reveal people's resolve to stop listening I guess... But a bigger more notable gap makes sense.

ja2ke fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 15, 2014

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

ja2ke posted:

I ripped off that band aid by just naming Laura's killer like 2 minutes into the spoiler section of the first episode. It'll reveal people's resolve to stop listening I guess... But a bigger more notable gap makes sense.

Man, now I sorta don't want to listen to the episode. I don't know if I'd be able to stop my player before hearing something big. :(

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀
Maybe someone should split the parts up. Who's that youtube man who does all the fancy stuff with your podcasts?
There's value in each half individually. Either you want to be spoiler free, or you just finished the podcast series on a first watch and want to go back and listen to the spoilers.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised you guys didn't just have them be two entirely separate audio files. Seems like a far clearer way to handle things.

Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

How unsightly.
I dunno, I felt like they spent plenty of time wringing their hands and warning first-time viewers not to ruin the show. But maybe later when they don't have so much to say about the Spoiler Zone they could use a music bumper or something.

Also Chris said Spoiler Zone once and I totally dig the name now.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Brother Entropy posted:

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised you guys didn't just have them be two entirely separate audio files. Seems like a far clearer way to handle things.

MAN just give us this one podcast that people who have already seen a thing can listen to people discuss it. They gave plenty of warning.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Al! posted:

MAN just give us this one podcast that people who have already seen a thing can listen to people discuss it. They gave plenty of warning.

I'm just saying with the amount of worrying they're doing about accidental spoilers, putting the onus entirely on the reader to download and double-click the spoiler zone half of the episode seems like a smart move. No idea what you're trying to say to me or what you even thought I was getting at here.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I appreciate spoiler warnings, thanks for putting them in and dancing around my delicate sensibilities.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Does it really matter considering the circumstances in which the killer is revealed (and not just in Cooper's dream, but the actual pilot where he's sitting behind the bed full frame)?

Or maybe that was your point? I haven't listened to the podcast but sure dropping the killer's name in the first two minutes is enough to scare anyone off who doesn't know what's actually going on.

Gesadt
Jan 3, 2014

Boatswain posted:

Thanks, I'll check them out.

&& I'd love to listen to Tom Francis (who clearly is the Mathew Goode of video game developers) and others but Skype and other VoIP podcasts lack so much in chemistry and debate compared to some people sitting together in a room. Poor quality also makes it difficult to engage with the people speaking, thus the lack of enthusiasm for the podcast itself.

mmm im pretty sure in C&C its all of them sitting in the same room, drinking. since afaik they all live in the same city. audio quality is fine, i dont see what the problem is, better than something like quarter to three where theyre clearly doing it over skype.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.


I was making fun of how that person clearly has zero understanding about how Ebola is transmitted between humans.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Once upon a time I'd have said Arstechnica, alas they too have fallen to the skeletons.

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Mierenneuker posted:

I was making fun of how that person clearly has zero understanding about how Ebola is transmitted between humans.

Noticed someone on my girlfriends facebook today sharing that apparently Ebola is an airborne disease and the Government is hiding it from us.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Which is why we're all dead and full of ebola. Yep

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Captain Invictus posted:

Which is why we're all dead and full of ebola. Yep

You will be if you let them vaccinate you.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
More insanity.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/14/6978809/utah-state-university-receives-shooting-threat-for-anita-sarkeesian-visit

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

And here we all thought videogames didn't cause school shootings

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

Zombies' Downfall posted:

And here we all thought videogames didn't cause school shootings
Not even university believed that

quote:

USU police, in conjunction with several teams of state and federal law enforcement experts, determined that there was no threat to students, staff or the speaker, so no alert was issued.
you probably won't see most articles quote that USU statement.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

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Pyromancer posted:

Not even university believed that

you probably won't see most articles quote that USU statement.

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Edit: to be less snarky my understanding is the reason she cancelled is because the Utah carry laws allow people to pack heat on college campuses but bans patdowns which has nothing to do with whether the university could determine a specific threat

Al! fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 15, 2014

al-azad
May 28, 2009



If you're afraid of people taking your video games away it will happen if you shoot everyone because someone is speaking about video games.

Dear idiots of the world: the more extreme and irrational you are the more you scare away people on your side who aren't. People on the fence and those who would agree with you no longer want to be associated with you. So keep on posting dumb poo poo like this, you are destroying your own cause from the inside out.

Tequila
Apr 16, 2002
DRIVE BY RANDOM TITLING! YOU MAY BE NEXT!
She's scheduled to speak at my alma mater. I hope it goes without incident but Texas doesn't exactly have the best record with guns or women.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Also how is this not making national news? People have been arrested and expelled for far less. Not even children are safe from overzealous no tolerance policies and here someone makes a legitimate threat and no one cares.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

al-azad posted:

Also how is this not making national news? People have been arrested and expelled for far less. Not even children are safe from overzealous no tolerance policies and here someone makes a legitimate threat and no one cares.

The US is a weird place. Like most people, it depends on the tolerance level of the person handling the situation and the level of response they give. The guy who posted that scare should definitely be detained until the talks were done and maybe be issued a court order to see a psychologist. Making it national news, though, probably won't help anything. Like I posted in the Giantbomb thread, giving these wackjobs massive attention only feeds into the cycle. Patrick's article on the Brianna Wu harassment is a pretty good example of how not to handle coverage. He basically slapped the entire twitter conversation of the jerk front and center of the article, bringing him into the spotlight instead of making the article completely about how this harassment can affect a person, appealing to a person's empathy. Instead we see how being an rear end in a top hat rewards you with media attention and can encourage more people to do it.

Of course some people will read that kind of article and see how to push someone's buttons but I believe those kind of people are in the minority in the grand scheme of things. But yeah, giving celebrity status to those kind of people is a bad way of handling it.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



We're not talking about someone making threats to a single person on Twitter, we're talking about someone who claims they have guns and homemade explosives threatening to kill multiple people. In this post-Sandy Hook, post-Columbine, post-VA Tech, post-Boston Marathon, post-Gifford, post-Navy Yard, post-Aurora, post-Santa Barbara United States of America how is this not immediately being taken seriously? I didn't even know about the bomb threat in September.

I hope the police or FBI or whoever is investigating find the person and rake them through the mud. This isn't something you're detained for, it's something you're arrested for. And if they're actually a student, expelled. I don't want to go to school knowing that person is in my class. Did the University even initiate any kind of warning to the students?

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


al-azad posted:

If you're afraid of people taking your video games away it will happen if you shoot everyone because someone is speaking about video games.

Dear idiots of the world: the more extreme and irrational you are the more you scare away people on your side who aren't. People on the fence and those who would agree with you no longer want to be associated with you. So keep on posting dumb poo poo like this, you are destroying your own cause from the inside out.

They know that it won't convince anyone, they just don't care. Jezebel published an article about gamer gate's structure and behavior a couple of days ago. The researcher that wrote it says that:

Jennifer Allaway posted:

by deprecating the entire community under the guise of using "the enemy's words" [and stereotypes], they unite the entire group... if they have nothing to lose, the consequences don't matter. The only thing that matters is the approval and social interactions with your fellow members in the cause. In this way, they further radicalize their viewpoints in a way that isn't controlled or even conscious.

The rest of the article compares gamer gate and the standard patterns that drive other hate groups.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

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Maybe Jack Thompson was right.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

Gamer Gate has made me feel worse about this hobby than Sonic porn and Party Babyz combined.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
People care way too drat much about video games. Yes I get the irony of posting on a video game forum on my lunch break to say so, and yes I know this mess has moved way past video games at this point (and that there's evidence it was never about them in the first place).

For that matter, people care too much about loving up someone else's day too.

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Tequila
Apr 16, 2002
DRIVE BY RANDOM TITLING! YOU MAY BE NEXT!

Woffle posted:

Gamer Gate has made me feel worse about this hobby than Sonic porn and Party Babyz combined.

I don't know what party babyz is and it sounds like that's a good thing.

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