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I wonder how this new firmware is going to effect the life of the SSD. Those tests that showed it took almost a petabyte of writes before failure, whos going to do that with the new firmware?
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jeef posted:Why can't you have the old drive dangling outside the case? What does the case being too small have to do with it? Because that means I need to jam my hand into the case to plug in an additional SATA cable and I am lazy.
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BitterAvatar posted:Because that means I need to jam my hand into the case to plug in an additional SATA cable and I am lazy. Use a USB to SATA adapter.
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Oct 15, 2014 21:39
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r0ck0 posted:I wonder how this new firmware is going to effect the life of the SSD. Those tests that showed it took almost a petabyte of writes before failure, whos going to do that with the new firmware? It will reduce it by one write pass (in other words, not very much). Samsung's description of the bug doesn't support the idea that the drive is going to do any more or less writing, except for the one-time pass necessary to rewrite poorly calibrated data to restore performance.
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Oct 15, 2014 21:46
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Pimpmust posted:Before:
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The Windows defragger is apparently set to automatically "optimize" my SSD. Since I can see that the program does in fact recognize it as an SSD, rather than a platter drive, does that mean that "optimize" actually means a TRIM-pass, or is it defragging my SSD? vvv I'm on 8.1, so I'm good. Thanks for clearing that up. vvv Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 22:24
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Instant Grat posted:The Windows defragger is apparently set to automatically "optimize" my SSD. Since I can see that the program does in fact recognize it as an SSD, rather than a platter drive, does that mean that "optimize" actually means a TRIM-pass, or is it defragging my SSD? On Windows 8+ it'll do a TRIM pass. On Windows 7 it should recognize it is an SSD and leave it alone. If you're on Windows 7 and it's still trying to defrag your SSD, you can run the Windows Experience Index and it should correct that.
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Oct 15, 2014 22:36
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Just updated my Samsung 840EVO I only got it last week so can't compare graphs with the drive with older files on them but the install went smoothly. 250GB took around 20 minutes or so. Here is a graph. 
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Lowtechs posted:Just updated my Samsung 840EVO I only got it last week so can't compare graphs with the drive with older files on them but the install went smoothly. 250GB took around 20 minutes or so. Are you running on SATA II? Your results seem slower than everybody else's.
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Oct 16, 2014 05:04
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So has the firmware been released? My magician is saying EXT0BB6Q is the latest
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dud root posted:So has the firmware been released? My magician is saying EXT0BB6Q is the latest EXT0CB6Q is the latest.   Success! In practice, Skyrim things are loading 3-5 times faster. That and booting was the only slowdown I really noticed anyway, I think.
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Oct 16, 2014 05:59
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dud root posted:So has the firmware been released? My magician is saying EXT0BB6Q is the latest
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Oct 16, 2014 06:14
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Peanut3141 posted:Are you running on SATA II? Your results seem slower than everybody else's. Did some tweaking and got this now. Thanks for pointing it out! 
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Oct 16, 2014 06:24
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I can't help but notice the difference between the week old SSD and the year old SSD. Anyone with an older 840 EVO getting a smooth 400mb/s read speed across their drive?
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Oct 16, 2014 07:01
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Lowtechs posted:Did some tweaking and got this now. Thanks for pointing it out! What was the tweaking? Switching MB SATA port, or something more arcane?
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Oct 16, 2014 08:38
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Sphyre posted:
It is fairly normal for all SSDs to do this over time. Random or semi-random write patterns will naturally fragment the layout of LBAs in flash memory and complicate the mapping table, which makes reading the whole drive back in sequential LBA order less efficient (particularly for drives which can't cache the whole mapping table in DRAM). Fresh, out-of-the-box performance can be restored by an ATA Secure Erase, or by overwriting (or TRIMming) every block in LBA sequential order.
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Oct 16, 2014 09:20
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My laptop is fast, I haven't noticed any issues, but nooo, I just had to click on the SSD thread, and I just had to run a benchmark... 
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Oct 16, 2014 11:24
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Pudgygiant posted:My laptop is fast, I haven't noticed any issues, but nooo, I just had to click on the SSD thread, and I just had to run a benchmark... The same thing happened to me when I ran the benchmark. Had a look in the "health" tab there were lots of interface CRC errors, changing the cable fixed the problem. Not sure how easy it is to access or change the cable on a laptop though, assuming it's the same sort of problem.
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Oct 16, 2014 11:39
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How much of an impact will I notice if I use two Samsung SSDs (and lose RAPID)? The reason I ask is that I have a smaller 840 PRO drive, which I was considering using for my OS and regular software installs, and I was going to get a larger 840 EVO SSD for my Steam/Origin game files. I'd rather not have to be concerned about micromanaging HDD to SSD if at all possible. The equivalent Intel 530 is similar in price to the EVO if mixing brands makes any difference.
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Oct 16, 2014 13:08
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Zarkov Cortez posted:How much of an impact will I notice if I use two Samsung SSDs (and lose RAPID)? You can keep rapid with two drives, you just have to choose which one it will be active for. (the os drive is probably the best)
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Oct 16, 2014 13:27
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Wonder when they'll have a bootable CD version of the software or something. I'm running Xbuntu at work and don't really want to have to take my hard drive out, attach it to a windows machine, run this software then put it back in my work PC.
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evilskillit posted:Wonder when they'll have a bootable CD version of the software or something. I'm running Xbuntu at work and don't really want to have to take my hard drive out, attach it to a windows machine, run this software then put it back in my work PC. On their website, they say that a tool for updating the firmware using os x/linux is coming at the end of the month. The current tool only supports NTFS partitions, so it may be that at least some of the filesystems will not be rebalanceable, and just the new firmware is installed.
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Oct 16, 2014 15:32
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Dumb question, where do I get this performance restoration tool? I can't seem to find it on the website. E: I'm dumb but here's the link for anyone else http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/samsungssd/downloads.html
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Peanut3141 posted:What was the tweaking? Switching MB SATA port, or something more arcane? Switched SATA port it was on port 2 and changed the setting recommended in the OP.
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Oct 16, 2014 21:14
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I am peeved that the fixed firmware isn't released for the mSATA EVO.
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Factory Factory posted:I am peeved that the fixed firmware isn't released for the mSATA EVO. Samsung's Download Page posted:Samsung SSD 840 EVO Performance Restoration Software  Emphasis mine.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:52
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Yet in Magician, the same firmware I had last week is on the drive and listed as latest.
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Factory Factory posted:Yet in Magician, the same firmware I had last week is on the drive and listed as latest. Kind of curious if they can push it to Magician with the way the restoration tool works or if they'll just eventually put a notice to go and download it. Surely they shouldn't be just leaving people hanging if they weren't aware of the problem at all, right? If I didn't keep reading this thread after I bought mine, I'd have been none the wiser.
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Factory Factory posted:Yet in Magician, the same firmware I had last week is on the drive and listed as latest. dud root posted:So has the firmware been released? My magician is saying EXT0BB6Q is the latest td4guy posted:The newest firmware is only available through the Performance Restoration utility. It's not available as a standalone download.
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Oct 17, 2014 00:00
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Can I use Samsung Migration Utility to image from an Intel SSD to a Samsung SSD, or do they both need to be Samsung drives?
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Karnegal posted:Can I use Samsung Migration Utility to image from an Intel SSD to a Samsung SSD, or do they both need to be Samsung drives? Yeah you can, it doesn't really care so long as the destination drive is a Samsung device. It would be kind of useless if it didn't let people migrate from other products to theirs 
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The Gunslinger posted:Yeah you can, it doesn't really care so long as the destination drive is a Samsung device. It would be kind of useless if it didn't let people migrate from other products to theirs Thanks! That was my assumption/hope.
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I ran the Samsung performance fixer and it worked fine but as far as I can tell Magician says the firmware is the same. Also did anyone else's PC take a really long time to load Windows the first time they restarted after running the software? Seems to be working normally now though. edit: actually I just can't read and it's only 1 letter difference, and the slow booting is my old SSD being a POS and hanging up the system half the time. my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Lowtechs posted:Switched SATA port it was on port 2 and changed the setting recommended in the OP. Sorry to keep bugging you, but I have a 250GB 840 EVO in another computer, so I want to make sure I don't have the same issue. Was the setting in the OP you're talking about AHCI or IDE?
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kujeger posted:On their website, they say that a tool for updating the firmware using os x/linux is coming at the end of the month.
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Been having weird problems with my machine shutting right down when I try to put it into S3 sleep. The only thing that's changed is this recent firmware update. Haven't really had time to dig into logs yet but anyone else with that issue?
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td4guy posted:Wow, I thought you were mistaken. But I just tried it with an ext4 drive and it failed. I guess the utility doesn't really have the ability to determine that required 10% free space otherwise. It worked on my SSD that is partitioned with about half NTFS half ext4, and the requirement only checks for 10% free on the NTFS partition. So you could in theory create a tiny, empty NTFS partition just to install the firmware.
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The Gunslinger posted:Been having weird problems with my machine shutting right down when I try to put it into S3 sleep. The only thing that's changed is this recent firmware update. Haven't really had time to dig into logs yet but anyone else with that issue? My computer crashed and rebooted last night and the only change was this restoration+firmware. Now it appears to not be putting the monitors to sleep either. The weird thing is my OS isn't even on the EVO. Could be a coincidence but I'm not thrilled.
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