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I'm torn between showing off the progress I already made tonight and keeping this kickass loving thang secret until it's done, urrgh
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Yeah you bring up a good point. Maybe save it for now and give us the business when it's closer to being finished. With the crap I half assedly record and post up for people to check out I end up never going back to complete those tracks. Maybe it's for the better though 
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Oct 16, 2014 01:45
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://soundcloud.com/wernotron/sets/osctober  net work error posted:If there's a specific theme or sample pack put out I'd take part in that as I have no idea how to have a holly jolly synthy Christmas. Don't forget that it's a goon xmas. The idea, really, is to make awful loving ironic xmas poo poo that sounds just genuine enough to actually sound like xmas music. Honestly, anything where the primary sound set is bell tree, horn sounds and a new agey string pad without drums and pounding bass will sound pretty loving christmassy. Good examples from goonmasses past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puTsbvGEK68 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaHkYeWX9jE If you can't pull off the music, that's cool, you can just have awful christmas lyrics. https://soundcloud.com/rid_labs/ultimate-santa-promo
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Oct 16, 2014 01:55
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:Yeah you bring up a good point. Maybe save it for now and give us the business when it's closer to being finished. With the crap I half assedly record and post up for people to check out I end up never going back to complete those tracks. Maybe it's for the better though One of the things I took away from ill.gates' workflow workshop was when he said "Don't print an MP3 until you're done, because if you do that you'll never actually finish" and that has been working for me. I used to always send WIPs to friends and nothing ever got done; now I'm working toward being able to release it which gives me motivation to actually finish. Having a clear marker of "this is done" has really helped too; I look forward to being able to take all the things I learned from making my current track to my next one, rather than endlessly loving about trying to fix them. Just make a new one and make it better! But first finish this one so you get an idea of what the later stages of production will be like with those "mistakes" you made - maybe it won't sound as bad as you think, or maybe that other thing you think is really cool is actually unworkable.
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Oct 16, 2014 02:34
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The downside of not recording/rendering anything until you're "done" is that if you, you know, forget to save or lose some data or hardware then even the progress you've made up to that point is completely lost. It's a good idea to record your progress at the end of every session. Not only to preserve, but it also allows you to listen to what you have so far without plugging everything in and turning it on.
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Oct 16, 2014 10:15
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:I think we should put our own synthy themed thing together. Everyone gets to submit one track that they'll compose for the project. Let's say the deadline is December 1st? Yes to this x a lot over a christmas album; esp. if we do charge for it on bandcamp and the profits go to a charity. Count me in.
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Oct 16, 2014 10:43
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I say this mostly because I don't often know what the hell I'm doing: will there be someone who knows these sort of things handling some "mastering" to make it somewhat cohesive? With x number of workflows and setups, there will be a lot of variance. Mostly concerned about huge differences in volume, etc... something to think about.
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Fors Yard posted:I say this mostly because I don't often know what the hell I'm doing: will there be someone who knows these sort of things handling some "mastering" to make it somewhat cohesive? With x number of workflows and setups, there will be a lot of variance. Mostly concerned about huge differences in volume, etc... something to think about. That's an extremely good point.
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Oct 16, 2014 19:17
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Based on my experience with other internet compilations, I think it'd also be good to remind everyone that their submission (to whoever they're submitting) should be a lossless file.
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Oct 16, 2014 19:57
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Here's my terrible music. Said gently caress it, did it live. https://soundcloud.com/poindexter-frink/bad-sequence E: Korg DSN12 got a release date: October 23. Can't wait! E2: Jesus just listened to this on my laptop. Volume is too low! I'll have to fix that when I get home =/ Tan Dumplord fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Oct 16, 2014 22:24
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On the subject of synth Christmas songs, this is my least favorite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMhMekfIyos
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Oct 17, 2014 01:09
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AxeBreaker posted:On the subject of synth Christmas songs, this is my least favorite. Isn't this one of the reasons why the SA "An Christmas" albums have existed?
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I don't mind it too much but holy poo poo sync that delay. I'm getting all Herbert Lom just listening to it.
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Oct 17, 2014 02:28
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VoodooXT posted:Isn't this one of the reasons why the SA "An Christmas" albums have existed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AcgFoCtXKk
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Oct 17, 2014 05:21
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uh, forget all this winter poo poo: summer jamz: https://soundcloud.com/fors_yard/continental-self (amen break taken from a 45!!) Also, the best song with sleigh bells is Blumenthal by Ulrich Schnauss. e: The McCartney song owns, actually. I also love ELO, so... I only wish for more instrumentation. Fors Yard fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Oct 17, 2014 07:51
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Fors Yard posted:summer jamz: Can we do a synthgoon compilation called "Boner Jams" that's all about synth porn music?
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VoodooXT posted:Can we do a synthgoon compilation called "Boner Jams" that's all about synth porn music? I'm in.
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Oct 17, 2014 10:13
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 "How about fiddling with these knobs for a change, Aldo Cosmo?" (actual title of the paitning)
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Here's my first piece of holiday music, kinda wanted to add another section, but doing it on the iPad and it was starting to get unwieldy. Incidentally, is there an app that will dump, basically, the audio mix going to the speakers/headphone jack as a .wav file? I'm getting a ton of noise going line-out to pc soundcard in and a digital file straight to my dropbox would really simplify things. Used Genome as a sequencer, which is treating me pretty well (about a 3 day learning curve), starts getting cluttered with too many patterns (and, for me, about 40 seconds of sound is too many pattens) and it -really- needs a solo/mute track feature. Funny thing is that two things I really like about it are how easy it is to enter triplets and that it does groove templates, neither of which I used on this song. Really need to figure out how to output all the tracks separately with some sync/queueing so I can do a proper mix. Soft synths were Thor, which is loving incredible, but is the most dickish when it comes to midi cooperation. Thumbjam, which should come preinstalled on every iPad. Magellan, which is sort of decent VA, mostly notable in that it has two separate instances of the synth engine. Galileo, which is a pretty o.k. B3 sim. And Sunrizer which, well, it handles microtunings and Scala files, kind of unremarkable otherwise, but it does sound nice. Really wish ios synths would allow for multiple instances or would do a few tracks of polytimbrelity. Only thumbjam (which will let you have 8 channels) really does so to my satisfaction. If, say, Z3ta+ could handle 6 channels/patches I'd be a pretty happy guy. Situation not helped by the fact that no ios synth seems to want to deal with program changes. This was a warm up, next is going to be my serious, microtonal mr rack tune which I may or may not finish by December. Probably depends on how long patching takes me and how many patches I feel like making. https://soundcloud.com/rid_labs/pumpkin-of-bethlehem
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NanoStudio can handle up to sixteen channels, but it's another matter entirely how well it works (or doesn't) with other apps - while you can control all your sixteen instruments on separate MIDI channels, it can't do stuff like MIDI clock, for example. Also, the Eden Synth in it is unfortunately kinda basic and you need a bunch of trickery to make it sound good. Then again, it's meant to be more of a standalone DAW than work with other apps. Also I've tried to get into Genome but the interface just sucks rear end. So clunky.
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Genome's UI takes -time- to get used to. Nothing's labeled, the "i" button, which is where a ton of settings are, brings up different pages depending on whether you're looking at a song or a track, you need to first select events before editing them, some counter intuitive stuff. I dunno, I think they did pretty well with how much they managed to work into such a small screen area, but it definitely takes messing around with, broken up by not messing around with it and consulting the manual, to get the hang of using it. Needing to switch between song/pattern play, not having a mute/solo, that it doesn't "bookmark" which track you were editing when you switch between track and song edits and the sort of wonky transport bar remain hangups even after the interface is understood. Tempted to blow 50$ on cubasis if I ever have 50$ to blow again.
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Wow so I've been pretty pissed at my rig recently due to some very crappy noise problems I keep encountering. I think I've finally solved the issue today after some twiddling though, long story short: make sure your audio interface is set up correctly! Tracing the problem down was compounded a little by retooling my recording setup recently (using patchbays now plus things are correctly using TRS or TS cables). I've got a MOTU Ultralite and I've used it for many years now with varying results (mostly good!). The box is packed with a ton of features (compressors, EQ, reverb, dynamics, etc) and I've always known that fixing some of the sound issues I'm having MUST be due to these settings. I've always had a little bit of noise by nature of the mixer (not noticeable unless you really pump the volume of course) but recently I've started to noticed some weird clipping happening, especially with my analog gear. The problem was especially noticeable when playing chords, instead of getting more intense harmonies each note would seem to collide and create this crackly noise that was very unpleasant. It wasn't isolated in one instrument either and I wouldn't hear the same dynamic in the mixer so that helped narrow down the problem. Now the problem I've always had with trying to fix this previously was that I could get the noise out of the mix but it would squish my waveform when recording (because I'd turn down the channel trim or play around with EQ or something). I want the fullest sound I can get recording into the computer of course so this was not a good solution. As it turns out, I had 2 problems that were causing all of my issues. The first was in the mixer of the audio interface I was sending everything to a bus output and recording that in Ableton. This is not a problem by itself, but when I'd go to change the dynamics of the input channel, those settings wouldn't help my overall recording (since the bus output has its own settings). Now I've muted the bus output and am recording straight from channel 7-8 on the audio interface. The second solution, and the more important tweak overall, was to change the Stereo channel mode to "Stereo". I had it set to M/S (mid-side) and had the stereo width turned all the way up. M/S is some kind of DSP stereo decoder that changes the overall dynamic of the input (decreases gain but opens up some headroom). Having this on plus having stereo width pumped was distorting the signal in the audio interface when I'd play more than 2 or 3 notes. Now instead of sounding like this (FB-01 is the first sample, Matrix 1000 on the second): http://tindeck.com/listen/vuxf It sounds like this (just Matrix 1000): http://tindeck.com/listen/qlbg
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:M/S is some kind of DSP stereo decoder that changes the overall dynamic of the input (decreases gain but opens up some headroom). Uh, nope!
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I've been on a synth documentary binge lately, just found this gem from 1983 worth sharing: https://vimeo.com/30103558
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ynohtna posted:Uh, nope! Perhaps this will help clear things up.
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Oct 20, 2014 15:24
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Yes but the audio interface isn't a microphone, hence, DSP processing
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Even so I have no idea what you're saying about getting more headroom. Was the interface expecting a mid-side microphone setup?
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:Yes but the audio interface isn't a microphone, hence, DSP processing That setting is just for decoding a mid/side microphone configuration. So, yes, it's DSP processing, but no, it's not "giving you more headroom". You're getting all kinds of weird phase issues when decoding a non-M/S encoded input, especially because you indicate you were juicing the stereo width.
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Rhythm Wolf vs Volca Beats and Bass deathmatch. The YouTube comments are surprisingly civil compared to the Synthtopia thread... for now.
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Yeah I'm not an expert by and stretch but I noticed a big difference in the sound when toggling M/S in the software and changing the stereo width. It was hard to describe exactly what I was hearing but the stereo field sounded different, far away, panned oddly. I still have a lot to pour over with the Ultralite, good thing I still have the manual (somewhere)
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Radiapathy posted:Rhythm Wolf vs Volca Beats and Bass deathmatch. Bit disappointed in how the RW sounds comparatively, but I'll still pick one up over the Volcas. There's a handful of things about it I like, but chiefly I can't imagine trying to play the Volcas. I got one of the original Monotrons, and it's the least gratifying thing to play with. Kinda feel like he did a poor job matching the two though. Volcas always come through louder, and there's definitely a difference in synth filter settings on that first pattern.
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Wait, when did the Rhythm Wolf become an actual physical thing? 
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Whats a good price to pay for an MPC 1000 with the black pad upgrade and updated software? I haven't seen it in person but it looks good in the pictures on craiglist
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They seem to be reliably ~$400 in my area. Unless "updated software" means the pay-for jjos, which is worth the dosh.Your Computer posted:Wait, when did the Rhythm Wolf become an actual physical thing? Still isn't shipping yet! I feel like it'll be discontinued quickly so I'm tempted regardless of how it sounds.
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I just got my Rhythm Wolf a few days ago and the bass synth plays out of tune with itself so it's basically useless. I was initially underwhelmed with the drums, but they've grown on me. The pads feel great and I found the sequencer to be lots of fun. I have to send it back to Sweetwater because of the out of tune bass unless there's a way to make it work from home. Edit: here's a video detailing how out of tune the bass synth is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczWloosYug Rifter17 fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Startyde posted:They seem to be reliably ~$400 in my area. Unless "updated software" means the pay-for jjos, which is worth the dosh. Apparently the bass synth portion is horribly out of tune between octaves. The more I think about getting full fledged drum machine for my setup the more I'm drawn to getting a cheep piece of poo poo digital one that can be had for 1/2 the price of a volca and having these guys gently caress it to hell and back.
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Startyde posted:They seem to be reliably ~$400 in my area. Unless "updated software" means the pay-for jjos, which is worth the dosh. It says "JJOS2" and includes a 4gig memcard. He's asking $550 edit: or I can get a 2000XL for 300. A MIRACLE fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Oct 20, 2014 20:44
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A Winner is Jew posted:Apparently the bass synth portion is horribly out of tune between octaves. FWIW my TR-8 is amazing
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Having an actual drum machine makes synths so much more fun. If you're willing to spend the extra cash I'm a firm believer in the Machinedrum. I don't want to say that it's the be all end all drum machine because that's impossible but it's very good. fake edit: ^ TR-8 also a fun choice.
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Rifter17 posted:I just got my Rhythm Wolf a few days ago and the bass synth plays out of tune with itself so it's basically useless. I was initially underwhelmed with the drums, but they've grown on me. The pads feel great and I found the sequencer to be lots of fun. I have to send it back to Sweetwater because of the out of tune bass unless there's a way to make it work from home. Jeeeesus. Never mind then.
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